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Wave of Bans and What Not

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First of all, I'm not against the DB team. And I fully understand what a "ban-wave" is in their minds.

This is not a topic to discuss the ban wave either.

Here is what I don't understand,

CodenameG, one of the Mod here on the DB forum stated the following:

"if theres a banwave we will tell you, right now its just a bunch of unlucky people who where running way more then they probably should have."

source: http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...eems-like-alot-us-getting-swatted-like-f.html

Looking at the ban forum, he is partially correct, I agree. I've seen lots of bans such as 24/26, 15/15, bots running 24/7 and etc.

However, I also noticed people are getting banned with 1/1 running less than 16h/day. Are they "running way more than they should have"? I don't think so, why were they banned then? Is it just pure luck, or were they caught in the cross fire of bliz trying to ban the chinese gold farmers? Are the chinese gold farmers running champ hunt scripts? I always assumed they were running gold farming scripts, so why were the 1/1, the 2/2's banned running champ farm profiles?

So to expand, I took a brief look at the d3tnt forum (another overpriced average chinese bot), apparently they had little to no ban. It got me thinking, did bliz find a "loop-hole" in db's system? Are we all exposed and at risk?

My knowledge of programming is almost to non-existence, but it only takes common sense to figure out a pattern...

I'm merely looking for a mod's explanation and maybe a mutual discussion amongst the members of the community.

If I've offended any of the Mod(s), I just want to apologize in advance. After all, db is making me cash out of nothing.
 
and again here it goes... db is not detectable due it doesnt inject anything into d3 memory...
 
I just can't understand what exactly is defined as a ban wave. There were many days of silence in ban reports section and now we have 15 or so just for 2 days. It's not a wave yet?
 
i think banwave is just when everyone (thought software detection) or more than 50% of player bot base is affected, those alot reports are only a very tiny % of all db botter, so when a banwave come we will know :P some few new reports can be a new detection pattern


Just remember, botting is NEVER safe, if u bot you can be banned, just make more profit than u use to build your setup ;) and start over or jump another games
 
Using 3rd party software, specifically for personal gain, can, should, and will get you banned.

I have had 3 WoW accounts banned when I used HonorBuddy. My main, that 4 24/7 farming accounts funneled gold and items into, as well as botted achievments on, was never touched. I have also lost my Collector's Edition D3 account for bottling occasionally, while my 24/7 farming accounts have been untouched. These loses never upset me, in the slightest. I even got one overturned, and went right back to 24/7 botting, and had it banned again.

The point is: botting is a risk, one that you know is wrong and it can and will get you banned. Being upset about it is a foolish use of your time. Just reload and move on.

There are plenty of reasons you should get banned, regardless if the bots are detectable (they aren't, the Buddy Team would hit the kill switch, which I have seen done over the years). I'm at work and plenty of people have addresses tgese numerous times already, so I don't need to get into it.

Cheers,
XtO
 
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eXtOphius said:
Using 3rd party software, specifically for personal gain, can, should, and will get you banned.

I have had 3 WoW accounts banned when I used HonorBuddy. My main, that 4 24/7 farming accounts funneled gold and items into, as well as botted achievments on, was never touched. I have also lost my Collector's Edition D3 account for bottling occasionally, while my 24/7 farming accounts have been untouched.

The point is: botting is a risk, one that you know is wrong and it can and will get you banned. Being upset about it is a foolish use of your time. Just reload and move on.

Cheers,
XtO
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ouch collector edition, sorry for ur loss :P that why i dont buy collectors, to dont have much pain when banned lol
 
It is called a ban wave, people are downplaying the word "wave", waves can be small or big. Look at the ocean, small waves exist. We should call these ban waves and get it over with. And for really big bans, lets call them ban tsunami =)

Let's all start a new trend, ban tsunami, ban tsunami, ban tsunami.
 
Blizzard rolled with Sandy.. big wave with east coast and also us players ....
 
Seems to me that "banwave" around here is a word similar to "Voldemort" in Harry Potters universe, a word which have so terryfinig connotations that many ppl are doing as much as they can to avoid using just to maintain good humor. Thats why were seeing constant tries to define it in a way which makes it non usable in any situation - like "its not a banwve until 99% of DB users report ban". During Sarkoth wipe supposedly there also werent any banwave, but nobody is denying that from than its suicide to make 15s runs. To me "banwave" its simple series of multiple bans witinn span of few days.
 
15 bans ? is not nearly a "wave" in the aspects of botting:banned. That is exactly what he means. When you see a fraction of the botters that has a ratio that is consistent with detection it stands out. As of now it is just luck.

1:20,000 is not a ban wave
1:2 would be...
 
You'll find on the average chinese botting forums a mod who is quite good at instant deleting anything suggesting a bwave or btsunami or what ever the kids are calling it these days.
 
The mods of DB are not calling it a banwave because if they do people will stop buying the bot so less profit for them makes sense?
 
jimtehownage said:
The mods of DB are not calling it a banwave because if they do people will stop buying the bot so less profit for them makes sense?
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nope... because the statistics dont prove more than a handful of people... I think all of you need to read up on what a ban wave is...

Any one who botted D2 and used Jsp knows exactly what this is... its not a few people its 50% + of the community if not 90% that get hit...
 
They flagged a bunch of people and now their monkeys are going through and investigating the flagged accounts more thoroughly. It will take time. I think there will be more bans every day for about a week. Then it'll chill out for another month or so.
 
If there are 2000 keys total, and I purchase 1000 keys, and the other 1000 keys are individually bought; If I get banned, that would make it 50% ban, would I be consider a ban wave? :confused:
 
zippysticks said:
If there are 2000 keys total, and I purchase 1000 keys, and the other 1000 keys are individually bought; If I get banned, that would make it 50% ban, would I be consider a ban wave? :confused:
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your logic is broke because I am sure there is more than 2k keys and no one person owns 50% of the keys.

use the logic if there is 200,000 keys and 100,000 bans yes that would be a ban wave. if there is 200,000 keys and 15 get banned ... no that is not...

And if you own 1k keys out of the 200k, and only YOUR accounts are banned... again not a wave. Refer to bellow on what you probably did to get each of yours tagged


They flagged a bunch of people and now their monkeys are going through and investigating the flagged accounts more thoroughly. It will take time. I think there will be more bans every day for about a week. Then it'll chill out for another month or so.
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This is probably exactly what it is. From a buiness stand point it is not effective for them to spend money on a constant basis mitigated towards bans, instead they have periodic reviews of accounts that a scripted software such as warden has placed a flag on.
 
Those people with 1/1 where usually selling/buying gold from a gold selling/buying website, so when the person would get banned for gold selling/buying, they would see the recent interaction with the botting person and flag them, after that they were monitored then banned
 
A banwave tends to be a long time coming. Blizz records certain data and bans thousands of players. That's a ban wave. 15 people, hell even 50 people is not a ban-wave given the numbers of the botting community.

Play wow? Ever hear of the archaeology banwave? The bot used to imput commands into the chat window, something that Blizz easily noticed. 11,000 or so people got banned.

Ruststorm in D2? 33,000 people banned. Those are ban waves. That's when something is detected and a mass of people get swatted for it.

If say 1000 people report they were banned and they all seem to have corroborating stories (I was farming A2 Using Champ Provile V1) or w/e. That could be considered a small ban wave.
People with different stories and different methods banning just did something wrong, or detectable. Keep in mind that when you use the RMAH, Blizz looks into your acct a lot more than when you do not.
 
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