Want to make MASSIVE gold using HB, details inside

[Dragonfabri]

I have recently made a second account to WOTLK to try for the first time Honorbuddy.
I have to say, i've been suprised! I mean, when i bought it i was looking for an undercutting bot, and i got one included that does exactly what i want to, awesome! Maybe it requires a bit of difficult setup, but the reward was worth it.
Anyway, i use this second account for undercutting, while i keep the main safe (i only send gold from the second account, and with written letters to make it seem like a friend of mine).
So i used AHbuddy mainly to make gold with JC and Alchemy, since on my server competition for gems is high. While this allows me to sell my gems WAY faster, and while the profits are quite nice, i feel like i'm not earning enough gold.
I'd like to earn MASSIVE amounts of gold, but for now i seem to earn just a bit more compared to when i did everything manually (but this time completely AFKable, so i earn the lost gold in time, but still...).
So i opened this thread to ask: what's the best way to earn the most gold by using Honorbuddy? Considering that i have only my main account (that i never want to lose) and this second WOTLK account (that i can risk, and if needed i can also upgrade to pandaria), what's the best alternative for me?
It would be awesome if you suggested something that (in order of importance):
-) Makes me huge amounts of gold (30k a day would already be amazing)
-)Is mostly, if not totally, afkable
-)Is safe (of course, it's still a bot, but the safer the marrier)

I know many answers could be given about the best way to make gold, but i'm asking what would be the best use of Honorbuddy for me (that i have only 1 riskable account and my main one) to make the gold i want. If you can, also specify what characters/professions i need and so on (my riskable account has nothing, my main one 1 level 90 and 2 80s).
Thanks in advance and sorry if i've posted in the wrong section or have done something wrong.

 

[loyoladude]

1) Misleading titles make you look like a dick.
2) Noone will tell you the 'best' ways of getting gold because they're secret.
3) A popular way of making gold is to look at your ah, see what sells for good money and easily farmed, then grind that out and sell it.

 

[Giwin]

https://eu.theunderminejournal.com/

 

[Dragonfabri]

1) Misleading titles make you look like a dick.
2) Noone will tell you the 'best' ways of getting gold because they're secret.
3) A popular way of making gold is to look at your ah, see what sells for good money and easily farmed, then grind that out and sell it.

Well it doesn't have a question mark, it's not like "hey you, wanna make huge money? more details inside!", but sorry if it misled you.
Anyway, i don't think everyone keeps for himself everything. I mean, surely there are some shenanigans that one keeps for himself, but common methods are quite sharable. But since there are many, many methods i'd like to know what's best for me, since i can use only 1 botting account and it has no 90 characters yet.
@Giwin: well, i use wowuction to see what sells the most, but still should i just mindlessly farm that? there's usually competition, and i fera a bot is easily spottable if someone farms the most precious stuff.

 

[loyoladude]

but still should i just mindlessly farm that? there's usually competition, and i fera a bot is easily spottable if someone farms the most precious stuff.

Then pick 3/4 things and mindlessly farm them.

++ Yes, hacks/botting methods are very usually kept very tight. They especially aren't just given out to someone with 1/2 posts on the forums.

You seem like a polite kinda guy - use that big 'ol brain of yours. 30k a day is very VERY achievable.

Also - Here's what the 'community' think - http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...t-best-gold-making-method-17.html#post1277778

 

[Dragonfabri]

Then pick 3/4 things and mindlessly farm them.

++ Yes, hacks/botting methods are very usually kept very tight. They especially aren't just given out to someone with 1/2 posts on the forums.

You seem like a polite kinda guy - use that big 'ol brain of yours. 30k a day is very VERY achievable.

Also - Here's what the 'community' think - http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...t-best-gold-making-method-17.html#post1277778

First of all thanks for the answers, i really appreciate them.
I'm also glad to hear that 30k a day is easily achievable. I already saw that thread, but it's just a poll, there are no tips or anything, just things like "play the ah" or "farm ores or herbs". Or maybe i have read it wrong.
Anyway, i also did a bit of search, but the only "gold guides" for massive gold by botting require either many accounts or other stuff i don't have. Maybe i'll level some characters on this riskable account.
But if you know where i can find material to help me in this gold making sutff i'd be grateful (again, i'm not looking for the guru secret, just basic knowledge/methods to get a start)

 

[lilsavalex]

1) Misleading titles make you look like a dick.
2) Noone will tell you the 'best' ways of getting gold because they're secret.
3) A popular way of making gold is to look at your ah, see what sells for good money and easily farmed, then grind that out and sell it.

There is no "best" way, it all depends on the server, faction and population. But a shuffle + auction house can bring in probably the most amount of money, you'd know that if you read around the forums. You could of at least posted some insightful information instead of being a dick. I'm sure there's no need for me to go into deep detail of a shuffle has there are tons of threads and posts on it.

 

[Dragonfabri]

There is no "best" way, it all depends on the server, faction and population. But a shuffle + auction house can bring in probably the most amount of money, you'd know that if you read around the forums. You could of at least posted some insightful information instead of being a dick. I'm sure there's no need for me to go into deep detail of a shuffle has there are tons of threads and posts on it.

Umh, so jewelcrafting + prospecting and transmuting is still the way to go?
Because i have my alch/jc character on my clean account, and i only send the stuff to sell on the AH to the second botting account, so that he can post those gems always undercutting. However, while it manages to sell my gems way faster than before, it still seems i don't get the fabled 30k a day. Maybe i should just accelerate the prospecting/crafting part? or is ther a more automated, afkable way of making that amount of gold?

 

[frazer]

Well we also need additional information to give you proper information. For instance all we know is that there is 1 toon on the bot account, for AH only, and 1 90 with JC and Alchemy along with a couple of 80's.

Are there any other toons on the bot account?
What professions are available on that account?
How much gold are we dealing with? Would you be able to survive tying up some for a couple of days or so?
How are you farming crafting supplies?
Do you use any other tools other then HB?
How much game time do you have to play by hand?

That's just questions off the top of my head. There are a lot variables, realm population, # of bots on the server (which you will never truly know but you can guess by watching the raw materials market or how quickly they undercut), day of the week, school vacation, etc.

30k a day is achievable and sustainable. With what I know of your accounts, that would be very difficult though. Depending on the recipes you have for JC, 5-10k on average should be about right. Again, we go into variables. With that, how are your is your supply of recipes for primordial diamonds. That alone will change where you are on that 5-10k scale. No recipes, closer to 5k. All of them, you could top 10k depending on how the helm drops are for the day.

 

[Dragonfabri]

Well we also need additional information to give you proper information. For instance all we know is that there is 1 toon on the bot account, for AH only, and 1 90 with JC and Alchemy along with a couple of 80's.

Are there any other toons on the bot account?
What professions are available on that account?
How much gold are we dealing with? Would you be able to survive tying up some for a couple of days or so?
How are you farming crafting supplies?
Do you use any other tools other then HB?
How much game time do you have to play by hand?

That's just questions off the top of my head. There are a lot variables, realm population, # of bots on the server (which you will never truly know but you can guess by watching the raw materials market or how quickly they undercut), day of the week, school vacation, etc.

30k a day is achievable and sustainable. With what I know of your accounts, that would be very difficult though. Depending on the recipes you have for JC, 5-10k on average should be about right. Again, we go into variables. With that, how are your is your supply of recipes for primordial diamonds. That alone will change where you are on that 5-10k scale. No recipes, closer to 5k. All of them, you could top 10k depending on how the helm drops are for the day.

-)The new account has no toons, so i'll have to level 10 from 1 to 80 (or 90 if i upgrade it to pandaria, and it seems it's required to make the profit)
-)On the main account i have JC (with many gem recipes, almost all the important ones are covered, all primal diamonds as well) and Alchemy at maximum, as well as Enchanting and Tailoring (but for these two i have no recipes). On the bot account, nothing (just bought it after all)
-)Right now i have 15k at disposal.
-) for now i don't farm materials. The only thing i do to make profit is the ore shuffle for pandaria gems. I see what gems sell most on my server and craft them. If golden lotus costs less than 50g i also buy it to transmute my green quality gems (generally for more primal diamonds or for well-sold gems, orange sells the most on my server it seems)
-)If by tools you mean bots or automated systems, only HB.
-) 3 hours a day should be granted.

I don't think there are too many botters on my server, maybe some farmers, since i've saw huge supplies of ghost iron ore, but recently many people in trade ask for it, so there are probably just a few left. My toon that undercuts has found no competition in the run for undercutting (almost), so i think there are few bots. It's highly populated though.

 

[shlord]

"Want to make MASSIVE gold using HB, details inside"

you got me...

 

[Dragonfabri]

"Want to make MASSIVE gold using HB, details inside"

you got me...

Again, the misleading wasn't intentional, so i'm sorry if you expected some guru secret (heck, i really could use one).

 

[frosticus]

gold earned is relative to the time invested. if you send money to your main account you risk a ban. blizzard investigators are not stupid, they will see both accounts are from the same ip. yeah, i know, universities, workplaces, etc all share ips. of course with a few key clicks they can pinpoint your ip within a block or two and see you arent in a 'sharing ip zone'. just out of personal experience, and ive been banned for pretty much everything at one time or another, if you want to bot, then bot. if not, go play your main account. there is nothing safe when it comes to botting and it wont be long after making '30k a day' blizz will catch on. ive had bank accounts, main accounts, mailer accounts, sor accounts, wrath accounts, cata accounts, auction accounts, mining/herbing accounts, even a few questing accounts who got stuck on the fire wall banned. yeah, if you ran kicks through the 40's you know about the fire wall.

there are many people here that have been botting and have not had issues, but there are dangers we keep secret, flags we are convinced are real. whether or not its something you have to learn for yourself. hb is a toolbox with one instruction 'install and go for it' good luck and its always the first account banned that hurts the worst.

 

[loyoladude]

You could of at least posted some insightful information instead of being a dick.

w/e bro. I see you're using my own language and imitation is the highest form of flattery, so thank you. I was merly telling someone on their first post to watch their misleading thread titles (something others have also found misleading). So get off your high horse and pot = kettle black.

++ Lilsavalex, to deny a 'best' way is to say theres no such thing as the equation; time investment / gold ernt.
Now, you're quite right that sometimes the more primitive/popular ways of 'botting for gold' are heavily server/faction dependent there ARE universals which do not require such variables. You obviously aren't informed or aren't prepared to let others know you know what they are.

When you've been botting/exploiting as long as I have little man, then we'll talk further. Yes, that was supposed to make me sound like a dick.

For now, im out.
-bb

 

[frazer]

Ok, let's address tools. By tools I mean addons. I highly suggest you install TSM (TradeSkillMaster). It's a relatively easy to use addon right out of the box, so to speak. I recommend you do this due to the fact you are buying mats instead of farming them. With only 15k at your disposal, you need to maximize your profits. TSM will show you crafting costs, market value, etc.

As a disclaimer I never used the AHbot with HB. I don't keep that close of an eye on my auctions. I do go back to check on them through out the day, check for undercutting etc. But I believe you probably can use TSM to help with setting your price settings on AHbot. The idea behind that is so you dont go below your profit margins so you are not selling at a loss, get the best deals for mats on the ah, etc. Read The Consortium forums, they support TSM. Become a goblin.

Next level a gathering toon. Even vanilla items sell fairly well. Cloth, Ore, Herbs, cooking, Transmog gear. Check out the Undermine journal for items. Get real familiar with it.

Level up your other toons. Enchanting is always a sweet market. Tailoring is always good, even if it's just for the bags.

Use the power of HB and other tools and you can make gold rather quickly.

 

[lilsavalex]

Umh, so jewelcrafting + prospecting and transmuting is still the way to go?
Because i have my alch/jc character on my clean account, and i only send the stuff to sell on the AH to the second botting account, so that he can post those gems always undercutting. However, while it manages to sell my gems way faster than before, it still seems i don't get the fabled 30k a day. Maybe i should just accelerate the prospecting/crafting part? or is ther a more automated, afkable way of making that amount of gold?

You'll need Inscription+Alchemy, Jewelcrafting+Enchanting, and Herbalism+Mining.

You prospect all the ore, send the blue quality gems to Alchemist to transmute to Primal Diamonds(Transmute Master is the way to go). The rest of the blue quality gems you can either sell uncut or cut them, I prefer to sell uncut. Green quality gems you make rings+necks to disenchant, you can turn Spirit Dust into Mysterious Essence to sell or you can sell enchants.

All the herbs you turn into ink to make epic BoE shoulder enchants to sell on the AH, they sell like candy!

This whole process can be made 100% AFKable with HBRelog and an account for AH Botting. How long are you gathering for daily? Whats your average NPH, and how much gold are you making?

 

[lilsavalex]

Ok, let's address tools. By tools I mean addons. I highly suggest you install TSM (TradeSkillMaster). It's a relatively easy to use addon right out of the box, so to speak. I recommend you do this due to the fact you are buying mats instead of farming them. With only 15k at your disposal, you need to maximize your profits. TSM will show you crafting costs, market value, etc.

As a disclaimer I never used the AHbot with HB. I don't keep that close of an eye on my auctions. I do go back to check on them through out the day, check for undercutting etc. But I believe you probably can use TSM to help with setting your price settings on AHbot. The idea behind that is so you dont go below your profit margins so you are not selling at a loss, get the best deals for mats on the ah, etc. Read The Consortium forums, they support TSM. Become a goblin.

Next level a gathering toon. Even vanilla items sell fairly well. Cloth, Ore, Herbs, cooking, Transmog gear. Check out the Undermine journal for items. Get real familiar with it.

Level up your other toons. Enchanting is always a sweet market. Tailoring is always good, even if it's just for the bags.

Use the power of HB and other tools and you can make gold rather quickly.

Bulk buying ore isn't that bad of an idea, I used to bulk buy raw ore on top of farming. On my server I used to buy 60g/stack, the return on the initial investment was pretty nice.

 

[frazer]

Bulk buying ore isn't that bad of an idea, I used to bulk buy raw ore on top of farming. On my server I used to buy 60g/stack, the return on the initial investment was pretty nice.

Oh I agree, you can turn a nice profit buying in bulk IF you have the resources. At 15k gold, I probably would hold off buying in bulk since he is also buying most if not all off the AH. He could find himself caught with not enough funds to continue buying other mats. Once you have a nicer bank roll, you see it longer term and you don't mind if your gold is tied up for a week or two. And once you get to a certain point, you tend to not sweat the flipping so much, you tend to not mind any losses or bad judgement calls.

There is also the opportunity to make serious gold if you find the right guild/person to buy in bulk from you, whether in raw mats or finished products, in this case flasks/potions. They will look to pay for your services so that they can continue playing whatever they prefer and not have to worry about having time for gathering or creating items. Just watch who is buying what mats, reach out to them, find out how much they need and agree on a price. You may lose a little gold short term, but you have steady income long term.

 

[Unicorn Ryder]

You'll need Inscription+Alchemy, Jewelcrafting+Enchanting, and Herbalism+Mining.

You prospect all the ore, send the blue quality gems to Alchemist to transmute to Primal Diamonds(Transmute Master is the way to go). The rest of the blue quality gems you can either sell uncut or cut them, I prefer to sell uncut. Green quality gems you make rings+necks to disenchant, you can turn Spirit Dust into Mysterious Essence to sell or you can sell enchants.

All the herbs you turn into ink to make epic BoE shoulder enchants to sell on the AH, they sell like candy!

This whole process can be made 100% AFKable with HBRelog and an account for AH Botting. How long are you gathering for daily? Whats your average NPH, and how much gold are you making?

There are still profiles that works to shuffle?

 

[phantomesq]

30k a day very achievable? if its "very" whats the secret? I have several different professions on a high pop server, but everything sells like shit cuz theres 100000000 of everything on the AH....