Very Low Victory Ratio on Silvershard Mine BG (Alliance)

[rodarvus]

Hi there,

since patch 5.2, I started running random BGs to upgrade gear on my alts (11, all classes, on same realm, all of them Alliance).

Results are fairly even split between victories and losses, with exception of Silvershard Mine:

$ grep "Silvershard Mine:" *
3076 2013-03-23 21.17.txt:[03:40:59.059 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 1
3076 2013-03-23 21.17.txt:[05:57:12.021 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 2
3776 2013-03-24 12.51.txt:[17:32:36.645 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 1
3776 2013-03-24 12.51.txt:[22:59:34.803 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 1
4020 2013-03-23 13.55.txt:[23:42:09.949 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 3
4020 2013-03-23 13.55.txt:[00:13:55.930 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 3
4448 2013-03-22 11.59.txt:[21:59:47.380 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 1 Losses - 3
4640 2013-03-23 20.51.txt:[00:13:17.614 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 1
5380 2013-03-24 12.51.txt:[23:00:35.333 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 4
5380 2013-03-24 12.51.txt:[01:21:25.514 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 4
5380 2013-03-24 12.51.txt:[03:46:47.211 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 5
5604 2013-03-20 20.57.txt:[02:16:20.105 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 1
5604 2013-03-20 20.57.txt:[03:58:52.315 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 2
5884 2013-03-22 19.26.txt:[03:02:53.027 N] [BGBuddy]: Silvershard Mine: Wins - 0 Losses - 2

Resuming, in an excerpt of roughly 5.5 days botting, Alliance won *1* BG, and lost 33.

Someone could definitely go the cheesy way, and say something on the lines of "Alliance sux0rz, you suck a$$ n00b".

While that's possible, I'd rather put my bet on one of two things:

a. Alliance has a serious terrain handicap against Horde on this BG (such as having to walk considerably more after dying, worse position on the map, etc.)
b. For some reason, a large part of Alliance players (and bots) just happen to perform considerably worse than Horde on this BG

Honestly speaking, I'm not particularly good at Battlegrounds, and PvP in general - but my impression is that option 'a' is not true in this case: to my untrained eyes, the map appears to be have a fairly symmetric space distribution between Alliance and Horde.

Which leaves option 'b' - and hence, my questions:

1. Did anyone else notice similar poor performance by Alliance when botting this BG?
2. Given the number of bots on Battlegrounds these days, any bug (specific to one faction) would clearly disrupt balance. Any chance this behavior could be a bug on Honorbuddy's Alliance faction handling code on Silvershard Mine?

I'm happy to send my logs to Honorbuddy developers if that helps. Please let me know if you need any other information as well.

Thanks in advance!

 

[floppydrive]

Agreed, Pure Rotation and Singular did nothing during this BG and noticed 3 other bots stuck and just standing in place casting random spells. Imo, avoid this BG as a bot.

 

[rodarvus]

Actually, to be clear I don't think it's a problem with Singular *at all*.

The bot does fight (in my case at least), but as it happens, Alliance in general is simply always behind.

My best guess would be how BGBuddy (and if) selects which cart to follow. If somehow the cart selection logic is faction-dependent, Alliance's cart selection logic could be skewed.

But again, this is just wild guess.

 

[biller72]

its horde sides, spawn points are closer to the nodes.

av is alliance sided dont have to run as far to the bosses

but horde can win av sometimes.... we never get a mine win streak