Using a VPN

[Moiravus]

Anyone use a VPN for botting? I was wondering what a good service provider for a decent VPN would be, I'm looking at buying and setting up an account that wont be tied to my IP for 24/7 botting. Anyone who currently uses a VPN could they give me the one they use and their experiences with them as a whole. Would be greatly appreciated

 

[A1l3n]

I really would like to know a good VPN with multi sessions. So I can run them on my VM's.

 

[xfirefly88x]

VPN can work both ways Depending on the situation. In Most case if you are only botting one account Dont even bother. Because it will bring more attention to your account because VPN will just use a different IP address than the one you're using at home,but the issue comes when the VPN refreshs or changes. Since VPN can change or refresh it will make yourself seem like you're in another part of the world, or nation.

For example one minute you're in China the next you're in Canada. In the course of 5 minutes it is impossible to be able to do that.

Blizzard uses scripts on IPs that connect to their network that finds issues like these and locks the account. But it doesn't ban its a safety mechanic blizzard has imply for accounts. HOWEVER, if it keeps happening over and over blizzard will begin to monitor and flag that account for further issues like that one.

VPN can be Helpful at times, For some people it will help them for others it will hurt.

 

[ganz]

VPN can work both ways Depending on the situation. In Most case if you are only botting one account Dont even bother. Because it will bring more attention to your account because VPN will just use a different IP address than the one you're using at home,but the issue comes when the VPN refreshs or changes. Since VPN can change or refresh it will make yourself seem like you're in another part of the world, or nation.

For example one minute you're in China the next you're in Canada. In the course of 5 minutes it is impossible to be able to do that.

Blizzard uses scripts on IPs that connect to their network that finds issues like these and locks the account. But it doesn't ban its a safety mechanic blizzard has imply for accounts. HOWEVER, if it keeps happening over and over blizzard will begin to monitor and flag that account for further issues like that one.

VPN can be Helpful at times, For some people it will help them for others it will hurt.

What about people in China that legitimately rent VPN to play wow on US servers bot free?
How does that work?

 

[Moiravus]

VPN can work both ways Depending on the situation. In Most case if you are only botting one account Dont even bother. Because it will bring more attention to your account because VPN will just use a different IP address than the one you're using at home,but the issue comes when the VPN refreshs or changes. Since VPN can change or refresh it will make yourself seem like you're in another part of the world, or nation.

For example one minute you're in China the next you're in Canada. In the course of 5 minutes it is impossible to be able to do that.

Blizzard uses scripts on IPs that connect to their network that finds issues like these and locks the account. But it doesn't ban its a safety mechanic blizzard has imply for accounts. HOWEVER, if it keeps happening over and over blizzard will begin to monitor and flag that account for further issues like that one.

VPN can be Helpful at times, For some people it will help them for others it will hurt.

Some VPN's allow you to set a static IP and it will only use that IP.

So if that's the only problem it is easily fixed.

 

[xfirefly88x]

Some VPN's allow you to set a static IP and it will only use that IP.

So if that's the only problem it is easily fixed.

This is true, and this is one of the better methods rather than just finding a regular VPN

 

[Moiravus]

This is true, and this is one of the better methods rather than just finding a regular VPN

Do you know of any?

I'm sorta blind in this regard.

 

[xfirefly88x]

Do you know of any?

I'm sorta blind in this regard.

From this time period. No. But back in the day I did use one for vent funniness and private servers. I used i think it was called OpenVPN but it wasn't a static it was a dynamic

 

[ganz]

OpenVPN on a linux box works great.

SSL/TLS protocols FTW!

Most VPN renting websites offer a choice between an OpenVPN server (SSL) or a server type using PPTP/L2SP/SSTP.

VPN is good practice in avoiding banhammer.
Coupled with realistic farming hours on a human-like schedule it's fantastic.

 

[darutha]

I use StrongVPN at home. If you want a static IP you will need to get an Open VPN option. PPTP is dynamic and will change almost every time. It does not though change regions (I have mine set to SF, CA). But when I was using PPTP B.net would complain that I was moving. Never have any issues with OpenVPN static IP though.

Cheers

 

[Lawlrus]

VPN can work both ways Depending on the situation. In Most case if you are only botting one account Dont even bother. Because it will bring more attention to your account because VPN will just use a different IP address than the one you're using at home,but the issue comes when the VPN refreshs or changes. Since VPN can change or refresh it will make yourself seem like you're in another part of the world, or nation.

For example one minute you're in China the next you're in Canada. In the course of 5 minutes it is impossible to be able to do that.

Blizzard uses scripts on IPs that connect to their network that finds issues like these and locks the account. But it doesn't ban its a safety mechanic blizzard has imply for accounts. HOWEVER, if it keeps happening over and over blizzard will begin to monitor and flag that account for further issues like that one.

VPN can be Helpful at times, For some people it will help them for others it will hurt.

First, the whole point of using a VPN is that it looks like you're in another part of the world. It's an advantage, not an issue to frown about.

It's true that Blizzard will require a password change if it detects that you're using an abnormal IP address to connect. However, after changing the password, it will be some time before this script is called again, even if you're connecting from a wide range of IP addresses.

And by that same token, Blizzard DOES ban for use of VPNs, especially public ones, such as OpenVPN. This happened to me earlier this week while playing legitimately on campus (throttled ports ftl). Of course it was no more than ten minutes to get the ban overturned, but this is still an issue, especially if your account is very clearly used for botting.

If you're doing any sort of long-term botting (either in a single session, or consistent bot sessions), use a VPN. It's foolish not to. The VPN is your 'get out of jail free' card. It protects whatever legitimate accounts you may have set aside (and your family's too!) and provides you with an easy, legitimate scenario to unlock your account in the case that you do get banned.

You started here not a week ago, which is not a problem in and of itself, but it should be an indication that you really shouldn't be giving inaccurate advice to others.

Your signature is like a summation of every outdated, paranoid stance on botting.
HBRelog/ARelog cover the ability of the bot to take breaks. If you want to do something useful, link to it in your sig.
Being online for 32 hours straight does nothing to flag your account. Provided that you aren't seen and reported, nothing is watching and waiting to 'whack' your account for being online too long.
HonorBuddy and SVN handle updates for basically everything in the bottom of your signature.
And I would be floored to meet any botter today that didn't already know Gametime and CD Keys were available in gold.

 

[darutha]

First, the whole point of using a VPN is that it looks like you're in another part of the world. It's an advantage, not an issue to frown about.

It's true that Blizzard will require a password change if it detects that you're using an abnormal IP address to connect. However, after changing the password, it will be some time before this script is called again, even if you're connecting from a wide range of IP addresses.

And by that same token, Blizzard DOES ban for use of VPNs, especially public ones, such as OpenVPN. This happened to me earlier this week while playing legitimately on campus (throttled ports ftl). Of course it was no more than ten minutes to get the ban overturned, but this is still an issue, especially if your account is very clearly used for botting.

If you're doing any sort of long-term botting (either in a single session, or consistent bot sessions), use a VPN. It's foolish not to. The VPN is your 'get out of jail free' card. It protects whatever legitimate accounts you may have set aside (and your family's too!) and provides you with an easy, legitimate scenario to unlock your account in the case that you do get banned.

You started here not a week ago, which is not a problem in and of itself, but it should be an indication that you really shouldn't be giving inaccurate advice to others.

Your signature is like a summation of every outdated, paranoid stance on botting.
HBRelog/ARelog cover the ability of the bot to take breaks. If you want to do something useful, link to it in your sig.
Being online for 32 hours straight does nothing to flag your account. Provided that you aren't seen and reported, nothing is watching and waiting to 'whack' your account for being online too long.
HonorBuddy and SVN handle updates for basically everything in the bottom of your signature.
And I would be floored to meet any botter today that didn't already know Gametime and CD Keys were available in gold.

OpenVPN is not a public VPN just so everyone knows. OpenVPN is a type of VPN. Your campus may be using OpenVPN for whatever reason but it does not mean OpenVPN = public.

Cheers

 

[xfirefly88x]

First, the whole point of using a VPN is that it looks like you're in another part of the world. It's an advantage, not an issue to frown about.

It's true that Blizzard will require a password change if it detects that you're using an abnormal IP address to connect. However, after changing the password, it will be some time before this script is called again, even if you're connecting from a wide range of IP addresses.

And by that same token, Blizzard DOES ban for use of VPNs, especially public ones, such as OpenVPN. This happened to me earlier this week while playing legitimately on campus (throttled ports ftl). Of course it was no more than ten minutes to get the ban overturned, but this is still an issue, especially if your account is very clearly used for botting.

If you're doing any sort of long-term botting (either in a single session, or consistent bot sessions), use a VPN. It's foolish not to. The VPN is your 'get out of jail free' card. It protects whatever legitimate accounts you may have set aside (and your family's too!) and provides you with an easy, legitimate scenario to unlock your account in the case that you do get banned.

You started here not a week ago, which is not a problem in and of itself, but it should be an indication that you really shouldn't be giving inaccurate advice to others.

Your signature is like a summation of every outdated, paranoid stance on botting.
HBRelog/ARelog cover the ability of the bot to take breaks. If you want to do something useful, link to it in your sig.
Being online for 32 hours straight does nothing to flag your account. Provided that you aren't seen and reported, nothing is watching and waiting to 'whack' your account for being online too long.
HonorBuddy and SVN handle updates for basically everything in the bottom of your signature.
And I would be floored to meet any botter today that didn't already know Gametime and CD Keys were available in gold.

I dont seek looking for a flame war, and i understand your point of view on my comment.

Blizzard has scripts which log your ip, if you have a consently changing VPN you will get caught by the script causing it to lock your account making you change your password, if this keeps happening blizzard will begin to monitor the account even closer. I did start here a week ago, yet I've botted with other programs in the past. Although this does not add to my experience of this program it does to the abilities of VPN programs.

As for the Gametime and CD keys Comment. I've add a ton of people asking me about it. Just because you say you know alot of people that know about this doesn't mean everyone does.

Being online 34 hours and more is something inhumanly possible. 75% of bans are due to players botting for more than 24 hours. The time you log in and out are recorded. As for my Signature I do it for the first time botters. To give them an idea of how to try to be protected and play safe. Half of the People on the ban pages are ban because

A) They Do not Monitor their account.
B) they Bot none stop with taking breaks.
c) They use unsafe Profiles or Public ones that are easily used by other botters that have been caught by blizzard.

Thank you have a nice day.

 

[Lawlrus]

OpenVPN is not a public VPN just so everyone knows. OpenVPN is a type of VPN. Your campus may be using OpenVPN for whatever reason but it does not mean OpenVPN = public.

Cheers

True, you can use OpenVPN to connect to private networks. I only use it for quick, public access when I'm dodging a content filter.

I dont seek looking for a flame war, and i understand your point of view on my comment.

Blizzard has scripts which log your ip, if you have a consently changing VPN you will get caught by the script causing it to lock your account making you change your password, if this keeps happening blizzard will begin to monitor the account even closer. I did start here a week ago, yet I've botted with other programs in the past. Although this does not add to my experience of this program it does to the abilities of VPN programs.

As for the Gametime and CD keys Comment. I've add a ton of people asking me about it. Just because you say you know alot of people that know about this doesn't mean everyone does.

Being online 34 hours and more is something inhumanly possible. 75% of bans are due to players botting for more than 24 hours. The time you log in and out are recorded. As for my Signature I do it for the first time botters. To give them an idea of how to try to be protected and play safe. Half of the People on the ban pages are ban because

A) They Do not Monitor their account.
B) they Bot none stop with taking breaks.
c) They use unsafe Profiles or Public ones that are easily used by other botters that have been caught by blizzard.

Thank you have a nice day.

That's just incorrect, the number of times you change your password via the prompt has nothing to do with how closely your accounts is monitored. They don't devote employee hours to things so totally inane. "Watch every user on vacation, every user who has a job requiring travel, every user who connects via VPN, every user who plays at a cafe." The number of false positives is simply far too high, they don't watch this. It doesn't even prove a violation of the ToS, every time they banned someone for this they'd have to waste MORE wages fielding their support staff to unban affected accounts.

Being online for 34 hours, while unhealthy, is not humanly impossible. Even assuming that a single player is using the account, nothing prevents someone from playing that long. It -can- be done. Beyond that, even if you and a sibling both mess around on an account, it can easily cover 34 hours of playtime.

Stop using fake statistics. 100% of botters get banned because they get reported.

You get banned because people report you, it's that simple. Botting for 34 hours increases the risk SOLELY because it increases the odds of another user seeing and reporting you. It has nothing to do with Blizzard, and nothing to do with the time spent botting at all. If you're in a low to zero traffic area you can bot for a week straight without issue.

The people on the ban pages get banned because they get reported.

And yes, when you tell people you're bulk buying full cata accounts for 90k, you will probably get some messages about it. But that's only because you haven't actually looked at the market, and have no idea what keys cost.

My problem isn't that you have no idea what you're doing - it's that you have no idea what you're doing and act like you do. If you actually knew what you were doing you'd point people to the simple solutions to the issues, and not just repeat the stock list of 'OMG BOTTING SO DANGEROUS' on every post you make.

 

[ganz]

Still don't understand how you think using 'OpenVPN' is bannable? I have a linux box running it at on offsight location in relation to my main acct/machine and I've never once had an issue...ever. In over 3 years of botting..

And by that same token, Blizzard DOES ban for use of VPNs, especially public ones, such as OpenVPN.

OpenVPN isn't public? It's the type of VPN server...
Why are you steering users away from one of the most important defenses against a ban?
Coupled with realistic hours and monitoring bots .. It's a decent setup at least I hope

I'm confused.
OpenVPN is awesome.

 

[Lawlrus]

Still don't understand how you think using 'OpenVPN' is bannable? I have a linux box running it at on offsight location in relation to my main acct/machine and I've never once had an issue...ever. In over 3 years of botting..





OpenVPN isn't public? It's the type of VPN server...
Why are you steering users away from one of the most important defenses against a ban?
Coupled with realistic hours and monitoring bots .. It's a decent setup at least I hope

I'm confused.
OpenVPN is awesome.

I'm not, you should read my entire post.

It -is- possible to get banned solely for using a VPN though. I'd be lying to say otherwise, it happened to me not five days ago. You can get unbanned easily, but people should at least be aware that it -can- happen.

That doesn't change my opinion on VPN, I agree that it's very important. The rest of my post says this.

Edit: An in your scenario you should be perfectly fine. Using a public VPN is the big issue.

 

[xfirefly88x]

True, you can use OpenVPN to connect to private networks. I only use it for quick, public access when I'm dodging a content filter.



That's just incorrect, the number of times you change your password via the prompt has nothing to do with how closely your accounts is monitored. They don't devote employee hours to things so totally inane. "Watch every user on vacation, every user who has a job requiring travel, every user who connects via VPN, every user who plays at a cafe." The number of false positives is simply far too high, they don't watch this. It doesn't even prove a violation of the ToS, every time they banned someone for this they'd have to waste MORE wages fielding their support staff to unban affected accounts.

Being online for 34 hours, while unhealthy, is not humanly impossible. Even assuming that a single player is using the account, nothing prevents someone from playing that long. It -can- be done. Beyond that, even if you and a sibling both mess around on an account, it can easily cover 34 hours of playtime.

Stop using fake statistics. 100% of botters get banned because they get reported.

You get banned because people report you, it's that simple. Botting for 34 hours increases the risk SOLELY because it increases the odds of another user seeing and reporting you. It has nothing to do with Blizzard, and nothing to do with the time spent botting at all. If you're in a low to zero traffic area you can bot for a week straight without issue.

The people on the ban pages get banned because they get reported.

And yes, when you tell people you're bulk buying full cata accounts for 90k, you will probably get some messages about it. But that's only because you haven't actually looked at the market, and have no idea what keys cost.

My problem isn't that you have no idea what you're doing - it's that you have no idea what you're doing and act like you do. If you actually knew what you were doing you'd point people to the simple solutions to the issues, and not just repeat the stock list of 'OMG BOTTING SO DANGEROUS' on every post you make.

100% of Bans are Players? Really. If my "fake statistics." are Fake where do you get yours? I would like to know the source please.

As for me listing a shock of BOTTING IS SOO DANGEROUS? On a exaggerated level maybe. Im only pointing out this that can get you tracked.

Also I apologize if my commitment to to helping others in trying to avoid the banhammer goes against your code of conduct.

As for i havent looked at the market? I keep tracks of it, if you could read on through the thread i also start it was a rough estimate and they range from 90k-150k As for i have order a service costing me 96k. So please If you plan on flaming me because of my informational or because im giving false information make sure yours is correct before insisting on 1 upping my comment.

Since you're so inclined in proving your point over my "false" topics i shall leave you to it.

 

[Lawlrus]

100% of Bans are Players? Really. If my "fake statistics." are Fake where do you get yours? I would like to know the source please.

As for me listing a shock of BOTTING IS SOO DANGEROUS? On a exaggerated level maybe. Im only pointing out this that can get you tracked.

Also I apologize if my commitment to to helping others in trying to avoid the banhammer goes against your code of conduct.

As for i havent looked at the market? I keep tracks of it, if you could read on through the thread i also start it was a rough estimate and they range from 90k-150k As for i have order a service costing me 96k. So please If you plan on flaming me because of my informational or because im giving false information make sure yours is correct before insisting on 1 upping my comment.

Since you're so inclined in proving your point over my "false" topics i shall leave you to it.

You misunderstand if you think I'm flaming you. If you want to help people you provide solutions, not a list of problems. I'm glad you're inclined to be helpful, but part of the burden of that is taking a little bit of extra time to know what you're talking about.

I've been botting for seven years, I've never lost an account. If you're serious about running five RaF accounts like you mentioned, it's in your own best interest to learn what the real threats to and limits on botting are.

The biggest misunderstanding you seem to have is that Blizzard does not track you. They don't watch how long you've been online. How quickly you've leveled. How many times you've logged in. And on the same issue, Warden doesn't do anything to prevent good bots like Honorbuddy from running. It doesn't catch you. Three or four years ago those would have been valid issues.

As it is now, you'd be loads more helpful if you provided people with links to things like HBRelog, VPN Tutorials, useful plugins, and low traffic, high quality profiles.

The only way left to get banned as a botter (especially one using HB) is to get reported. Real players get bitter if you push them out of their leveling zone, steal 'their' farm nodes, or cause them to lose a BG. The only reason botting for long periods is more dangerous is because you increase the likelihood of these things happening.

Blizzard isn't watching, and they really haven't been since years ago when they finally settled with Glider.

You should take a better look at who you're purchasing keys from as well. If the price is significantly lower than market, especially on CD Keys, be prepared to lose the account within the first month. Does your vendor have a guarantee on the account? Is it longer than a week? This isn't a flame, this is an issue you should consider so you don't get burned by a fly-by-night Chinese company.

Even at .5 trade, That's only $45~ for a full cata account. At that price I would be wary of receiving illegit keys. At .3, you're paying $32 for a full account. If it sounds too good to be true, in the gold market, it probably is.

If you're new, it would be in your best interest to keep an open mind. The paranoia exists largely among new users, it's entirely unfounded, and it misrepresents the main issue of keeping your accounts safe.

It's not about a server log, it's not about how long you've been online, how many times you've logged in, how many IP addresses you connect through. It's about appearing human enough to keep real players from becoming aggravated or suspicious. If you can accomplish that goal, everything else becomes a non-issue.

 

[Swizzie]

I use expressvpn changes IP no limits