wired420
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First off let me say. Messaging me if you can have a private copy of my CC will do you no good. I'm not going to treat some people better than others or my point being made would turn hypocritical, and people who really know me know that is not me. I attempt to treat everyone in the same fashion until which time you attempt to troll me into getting angry, or you throw fits, and/or insults.
So where this issue started. I was contracted to make the default rogue CC. It was supposed to just work. No settable options or anything. This is how it was asked to be. So to all of you people who have been messaging me telling me my work sucks. It was done to the T how hawker asked me to do it.
I finished the CC and turned it over to hawker for testing. Much to my surprise I wake up the next morning and people are already modding it and releasing as if they had made it with all credit removed (Users name omitted as it was not his fault). At this moment I had not been paid for the CC. So no one really had a right to be using it anyways. It was given to hawker for his own look over. In this conversation I was also told I should let people steal my CC and do what ever they want to it as they would eventually get tired of doing so and they would just go away.
Before you read on realize this isn't a personal attack against Raphus, and I will not say anything ill of him in this post. This is an issue with staff changing rules as they see fit to benefit them not having to deal with things.
Now to Raphus. He's pulled his work several times he's supposed to be getting paid for, and has been allowed to do so. So why wasn't he told you can accept it or leave like I was? Because he hasn't made them money yet off of something they know will do just that. Make money.
So how is it fair to treat one person different from the rest. Its not. The rules should remain the same from dev to dev. If not your just going to have confusion over and over as well as angry people over and over.
Second. Other developers have been made full moderators of the site. While this is not required to let them manage their own threads. I understand that not everyone is fully familiar what vBulletin is capable of. I don't understand why they were made moderators of the full site first off. Second why should I be forced to put up with stupid questions when they aren't? They were made moderators just because they bitched about all the trash in their threads. No offense guys but I normally use the ignore button on peoples profiles for this. The point being tho, one of them showed up after me, and was given this status. How is it fair to the rest of the CC devs that have been here longer? Why should we have to put up with it if they don't.
Third. I was told if my CC is stolen to just ignore it. No one else is required to do this. Why should I be? I was banned in the past for simply removing something from a CC and then getting mad that I was publicly treated like a heathen because someone whined to hawker about it. Notice once again I've left that users name out.
Fourth. I was told my CC would not be allowed as a DLL. Now why is it ok for others to have this protection for them but not me? Even though I have a developer willing to do the work so I can do this. He offered to do this for me but since hawker told me CC's aren't allowed as dll's in the recent past instead of going behind his back and doing it, my only recourse is to pull my work.
I hope you people understand. I have no other option. My other option is to be an ass and get banned.
This thread is not meant to be offensive, or to put anyone down. This is simply to point out that every user and developer should have to follow the same rules, and be treated the same way. I've previously been banned for cussing at someone for 10 days. Once I was allowed back to the site I showed where this guy had harassed me for days before I went off on him. The ban was removed from my infractions and I was apologized to over it.
Things need to be looked into a little more. Also I think the moderators should have some sort of training. I've got my own vBulletin and have offered to not only show moderators but also bossland himself how to do some things that would make everyone's life easier including investigating something that happens on the site so the wrong person isn't punished for something they should have never been punished for in the first place.
Anyways. If the above could be looked into and changed so that everyone follows ALL the rules ALL the time instead of changing the rules to what ever gives you the least headache at that point of time, this site would be much more enjoyable for everyone.
Notice to all of you. If you turn this into a flame thread, I will PERSONALLY have all the moderators in IRC rush to close it. So if its not something constructive to say just STFU and keep your opinion to yourself.
This thread is NOT for flaming users or staff.
So where this issue started. I was contracted to make the default rogue CC. It was supposed to just work. No settable options or anything. This is how it was asked to be. So to all of you people who have been messaging me telling me my work sucks. It was done to the T how hawker asked me to do it.
I finished the CC and turned it over to hawker for testing. Much to my surprise I wake up the next morning and people are already modding it and releasing as if they had made it with all credit removed (Users name omitted as it was not his fault). At this moment I had not been paid for the CC. So no one really had a right to be using it anyways. It was given to hawker for his own look over. In this conversation I was also told I should let people steal my CC and do what ever they want to it as they would eventually get tired of doing so and they would just go away.
Before you read on realize this isn't a personal attack against Raphus, and I will not say anything ill of him in this post. This is an issue with staff changing rules as they see fit to benefit them not having to deal with things.
Now to Raphus. He's pulled his work several times he's supposed to be getting paid for, and has been allowed to do so. So why wasn't he told you can accept it or leave like I was? Because he hasn't made them money yet off of something they know will do just that. Make money.
So how is it fair to treat one person different from the rest. Its not. The rules should remain the same from dev to dev. If not your just going to have confusion over and over as well as angry people over and over.
Second. Other developers have been made full moderators of the site. While this is not required to let them manage their own threads. I understand that not everyone is fully familiar what vBulletin is capable of. I don't understand why they were made moderators of the full site first off. Second why should I be forced to put up with stupid questions when they aren't? They were made moderators just because they bitched about all the trash in their threads. No offense guys but I normally use the ignore button on peoples profiles for this. The point being tho, one of them showed up after me, and was given this status. How is it fair to the rest of the CC devs that have been here longer? Why should we have to put up with it if they don't.
Third. I was told if my CC is stolen to just ignore it. No one else is required to do this. Why should I be? I was banned in the past for simply removing something from a CC and then getting mad that I was publicly treated like a heathen because someone whined to hawker about it. Notice once again I've left that users name out.
Fourth. I was told my CC would not be allowed as a DLL. Now why is it ok for others to have this protection for them but not me? Even though I have a developer willing to do the work so I can do this. He offered to do this for me but since hawker told me CC's aren't allowed as dll's in the recent past instead of going behind his back and doing it, my only recourse is to pull my work.
I hope you people understand. I have no other option. My other option is to be an ass and get banned.
This thread is not meant to be offensive, or to put anyone down. This is simply to point out that every user and developer should have to follow the same rules, and be treated the same way. I've previously been banned for cussing at someone for 10 days. Once I was allowed back to the site I showed where this guy had harassed me for days before I went off on him. The ban was removed from my infractions and I was apologized to over it.
Things need to be looked into a little more. Also I think the moderators should have some sort of training. I've got my own vBulletin and have offered to not only show moderators but also bossland himself how to do some things that would make everyone's life easier including investigating something that happens on the site so the wrong person isn't punished for something they should have never been punished for in the first place.
Anyways. If the above could be looked into and changed so that everyone follows ALL the rules ALL the time instead of changing the rules to what ever gives you the least headache at that point of time, this site would be much more enjoyable for everyone.
Notice to all of you. If you turn this into a flame thread, I will PERSONALLY have all the moderators in IRC rush to close it. So if its not something constructive to say just STFU and keep your opinion to yourself.
This thread is NOT for flaming users or staff.
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