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NegaoMoreno

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SPOILER*** All the information here is just guessing stuff..


Hi everyone, im currently using the bot for more them a year with no bans

I do have my main acc and some bots accs too.

The first thing i think before started booting is how do they catch us, booting,
im my mind as an system analyst there is 3 ways

1 - Client side (NOT APPLIED HERE)
2 - Database analysis
3 - Manual monitoring

as the number 1 is not applied because GGG didnt spent money on that, we are going to analise the number 2 and 3.

I presume as an smart DBA (database administrator) and good white hacker, what I WOULD DO, to catch the bots is

create a table witch contains the user details such as ID, name, password, email, IP_creation, last_IP_connection,day1,day2,day3,day4,day5,day6,day7, last_MAC, Last_connection, total_played_time,date_of_creation

just to represent my idea, that is suppose to be the Normal table for holding the user information, they must have some more information but that is just to represent my idea

they do have an table with FLAGGED MACS, IPs, accs,

so with just a few work with scripts they do an massive filters to catch peoples who uses bot,

for example

day1,day2.... that stores the amount of time played in each day of the week for example

Day1 = 10hour, day2 = 10hours, day3=10hours.. what they are possible doing is query with that information

>>>> SUM DAY1,2,3,4,5,6,7 if > 60 = flagged number 1
if flagged number = 1, check IP flagged(here could be check mac, check email), and if returns true flag number =2

An possible bot is detected at this point, and they go to step number 3 witch is manual analysis

they will look at your build, your chars, your chat history, your transactions between chars and they will ban EVERY RELATED CHAR that there is no chat between or used the same IP to transfers items.

Thinking about that, if you got an private VPN you THINK they aren't into flagged zone, think again

those guys work 24/7 and you think they will not spend money buying vpns just to catch the IP and put into the flagged zone, you are wrong.

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The application of my logic is not on that query they could do in NUMEROUS ways to catch you
want more examples?

here is

>> IF herolevel < 25 and HOURS spent > 80 = flagged number 1
>> IF Hero_average_played_perDAY_hours > 8 flagged number 1


i hope i helped some people understand the bans , some times you think you are safe behind VPNs but you are not.
in would suggest have an friend if a dynamic ip address and build an vpn with him, and reset the modem every day to change the external ip
 
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NegaoMoreno said:
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So you spent that much time writing that kind of theory, that's fine.

Tho any lambda user know that playtime per day is a flag factor, nothing new, it has been like this in pretty much every game until now, and will always be. It's the easiest way to detect bots.

Manual investigation comes by if some are "hard flagged" and leads to a ban usually, since obviously you're human and need sleep.

"Advanced" botters know VPNs are shit, it's not really the VPN but actually the providers. You want dedicated VPNs (you're the only one using the range). So yes, you're safe behind that kind of setup, not behind public/massive range providers.

So 2 points to summarize this :

- Don't rely on public vpn providers
- If you bot 24/7 expect to be flagged (not banned, flagged) and banned anytime soon.

Also be aware that this "Dynamic IP" setup is good (not really but why not) but you'll still have the same MAC.

PS: You're way far of the database sample they could have, the example you gave is fine at 1st year of college.
 
toNyx said:
So you spent that much time writing that kind of theory, that's fine.

"Advanced" botters know VPNs are shit, it's not really the VPN but actually the providers. You want dedicated VPNs (you're the only one using the range). So yes, you're safe behind that kind of setup, not behind public/massive range providers.

So 2 points to summarize this :

- Don't rely on public vpn providers

PS: You're way far of the database sample they could have, the example you gave is fine at 1st year of college.
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Will getting your own encrypted openVPN server be any different from getting it from a VPN provider? Is it safer to go the encrypted route?
 
toNyx said:
So you spent that much time writing that kind of theory, that's fine.

Tho any lambda user know that playtime per day is a flag factor, nothing new, it has been like this in pretty much every game until now, and will always be. It's the easiest way to detect bots.

Manual investigation comes by if some are "hard flagged" and leads to a ban usually, since obviously you're human and need sleep.

"Advanced" botters know VPNs are shit, it's not really the VPN but actually the providers. You want dedicated VPNs (you're the only one using the range). So yes, you're safe behind that kind of setup, not behind public/massive range providers.

So 2 points to summarize this :

- Don't rely on public vpn providers
- If you bot 24/7 expect to be flagged (not banned, flagged) and banned anytime soon.

Also be aware that this "Dynamic IP" setup is good (not really but why not) but you'll still have the same MAC.

PS: You're way far of the database sample they could have, the example you gave is fine at 1st year of college.
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This pretty much,just i don't agree about the 24/7.
 
thks for your comment it will for sure help a alot of people with your usefull comment.

and if dont know to how read i said JUST TO REPRESENT MY IDEA, what you want genious brainless guy? a project of the role database, with relationship and a prototype of the game working?
 
by default vpn's are encrypted, a vpn provider shares their IP with other peoples who buy it.

if you can have your own vpn with a friend like i said, is better,

or if you do have an dynamical extenal ip address you dont need a Vpn, just restart the router and the ip will change.

check on google some website where you can see your external ip

att
 
NegaoMoreno said:
or if you do have an dynamical extenal ip address you dont need a Vpn, just restart the router and the ip will change.

check on google some website where you can see your external ip

att
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Right, but your Mac remains the same... Not saying this cannot be dealt with as well, but....tinfoil hats to the left.
 
If i use a VM to bot and play on my main account on my host computer... What I am essentially risking is getting my main account banned if my botting account were to get flagged because they share IP right?
 
ysbear said:
If i use a VM to bot and play on my main account on my host computer... What I am essentially risking is getting my main account banned if my botting account were to get flagged because they share IP right?
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if you change your external ip before login with your main acc, that will be no problem
Presuming you are running the bot into an vm with a spoofed MAC address .

EDIT::: if you want play while your bot is running, you will need a VPN or in your host or into the VM
 
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NegaoMoreno said:
if you change your external ip before login with your main acc, that will be no problem
Presuming you are running the bot into an vm with a spoofed MAC address .

EDIT::: if you want play while your bot is running, you will need a VPN or in your host or into the VM
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Okay, so a VPN is mandatory. Alrighty.. wow this is so complex... lol
 
you can spoof your mac through the windows like here
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sorry im presuming you already new that
 
I have no idea what spoofing your mac even is. lol... is that required to run a bot and keep my main account safe?
 
ysbear said:
I have no idea what spoofing your mac even is. lol... is that required to run a bot and keep my main account safe?
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spoofing is changing your mac address to a new one.

i dont use that, because i just farm with 1 bot, and leave it farming just for 8 hours per day
 
NegaoMoreno said:
spoofing is changing your mac address to a new one.

i dont use that, because i just farm with 1 bot, and leave it farming just for 8 hours per day
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Okay I am on the same boat as you so i will just stop confusing myself and just get a VPN and put it up on my VM

THank you
 
so what do we do here? Play below 8 hours and make it random like 6 or 8 or 10 hours each day? then we won't get flagged by the auto flagging system?
 
DocBrown said:
so what do we do here? Play below 8 hours and make it random like 6 or 8 or 10 hours each day? then we won't get flagged by the auto flagging system?
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Or do as you wish and earn money.
 
fast question,
it is ok if vpn got dynamic ip?
also should i use vpn+proxy? or its ok with just 1 vpn for each bot?
 
Thanks , one more question. If i use 1 bot on 1computer and i got banned . i want to study on my faults. Is it enough to buy a vpn? (I read that there is /2 types of them : with static ip and that who changes everytime my ip adress , what is better??????)
 
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