Spoke to blizzard about detection

[ak1991]

I recently had an account banned that I wasnt even botting on but had bots running in the background on 6 other accounts. This particular account had nothing to do with my bots, not even gold or anything, was just doing recruit a friend leveling with my buddy. All of my accounts that were running were banned including the one I wasnt even botting on. So I called blizzard to attempt to appeal the ban. Ofcourse I didnt tell him I had bots running in the background but I had previous bans on this battle.net account before for botting so I was upfront and said I had botted before and was punished but this time I wasnt using it at all but for some reason was still banned. He told me even if the program they're looking for is installed on your computer and jsut running in the background somewhere they will detect it. He told me that they scan for that software. I asked him "isn't that illegal for you to scan the software on my computer that doesnt have anything to do with the game?" He told me no it's not illegal.

 

[anubite]

might be possible that they detected all accounts online at the time on that p.c/i.p and one got detected so they auto flagged for them all to be banned seems to happen when running multiple bots
meaning your 1 account that wasn't detected even thou clean was on a pc/same i.p that had multiple detections so they banned it anyway possibly who knows it's just blizzard.

 

[fieryrainbow]

was this on the same computer or different?

if i have 2 computers, one botting and 1 clean, but both connected to the same wifi, would it flag and ban my clean one too?

 

[joseph]

they do not scan your files. if that was the case then just rename HB to Cartoon maker.... they scan the memory using wow. it does not tell them what account is using the bot. it just tells them that the bot is being used while your wow accounts are being used.

blizzard does not do random memory checks its a waste of time. too many accounts and no way to tell if your using the bot that day. someone reported you or you were doing high risk botting.

2 ways to find the bot 1)you the end the user . they check your memory through your account, you get reported ,or doing dumb stuff. and 2) they detect the bot itself . few mass bans have been from bot detection but not All ..some were just building up of reports

 

[UnderratedPost]

It's definitely illegal, they always say otherwise to scare people But you can't really complain when you have bots on 6 different accounts remember to bot smart and you will be much more likely to stay under the bliz radar!

 

[Toofastforyou]

just going to have to call BS on this post... and this post should be taken down....

 

[nytegeek]

It's definitely illegal, they always say otherwise to scare people But you can't really complain when you have bots on 6 different accounts remember to bot smart and you will be much more likely to stay under the bliz radar!

Unless you are an attorney and know the specific laws for the part of the world the poster is in you cannot say that and be correct. Botting smart qas you put is not enough to avoid detection in all cases, it may reduce risk, but it does not eliminate it. Don't run accounts you care about at the same time the bot is running. That is all there is to it.

 

[kaspero]

they do not scan your files. if that was the case then just rename HB to Cartoon maker.... they scan the memory using wow. it does not tell them what account is using the bot. it just tells them that the bot is being used while your wow accounts are being used.

blizzard does not do random memory checks its a waste of time. too many accounts and no way to tell if your using the bot that day. someone reported you or you were doing high risk botting.

2 ways to find the bot 1)you the end the user . they check your memory through your account, you get reported ,or doing dumb stuff. and 2) they detect the bot itself . few mass bans have been from bot detection but not All ..some were just building up of reports

No i Disagree
i have 1 B.net with 4 wow Accounts
3 of them used HB and 1 selfplay
in Same PC Boting and play

the 3 of them have Banned
the other one still Work

 

[Aion]

I recently had an account banned that I wasnt even botting on but had bots running in the background on 6 other accounts. This particular account had nothing to do with my bots, not even gold or anything, was just doing recruit a friend leveling with my buddy. All of my accounts that were running were banned including the one I wasnt even botting on. So I called blizzard to attempt to appeal the ban. Ofcourse I didnt tell him I had bots running in the background but I had previous bans on this battle.net account before for botting so I was upfront and said I had botted before and was punished but this time I wasnt using it at all but for some reason was still banned. He told me even if the program they're looking for is installed on your computer and jsut running in the background somewhere they will detect it. He told me that they scan for that software. I asked him "isn't that illegal for you to scan the software on my computer that doesnt have anything to do with the game?" He told me no it's not illegal.

Relax mate, do not take Blizzard's representative words "As-Is".

One of the skills of the Customer Support is to have mastered the social engineering, so they perfectly understand that, they could tell you anything, including that they monitor at your home from the webcam etc. and they can easily get away with that.

Because:

On first place - the Customer Support persons are front-end and they usually have just a rough idea how your account is flagged for botting - If its flagged from real detection or by heuristics, the support have no access for this data, but only the "hacking" team of Blizzard have, which is pretty obvious. They work with very confidential data, and would not let the 300-500 Customer Support employees knows it

(Keep in mind, since several years, majority of the Blizzard's Customer Support personnel is "outsourced" to a 3rd-party company, based in Ireland, EU, so they are technically not part of the Blizzard Entertainment team)

 

[joseph]

No i Disagree
i have 1 B.net with 4 wow Accounts
3 of them used HB and 1 selfplay
in Same PC Boting and play

the 3 of them have Banned
the other one still Work

maybe your 1 account was off line Or they didnt detect the bot .. they banned you because of reports or farming

 

[kaspero]

maybe your 1 account was off line Or they didnt detect the bot .. they banned you because of reports or farming

No i Was Online then i have DC from three accounts
No one whisper me
and no one near me

i have 3 Monitors
and 5 Pc
So i saw everyThing Live

 

[Kandiman]

I had two accounts on the same Bnet that were running HB, they got 6 month-banned, the other two did not. The ones not banned I launched from the x64 Blizz launcher not HB launcher, I don't know if that means anything or is just coincidental.

 

[Folidar]

I had two accounts on the same Bnet that were running HB, they got 6 month-banned, the other two did not. The ones not banned I launched from the x64 Blizz launcher not HB launcher, I don't know if that means anything or is just coincidental.

i launched 5 clients from battle.net and exe every other time in rnd, never HB-Launcher. 3 got a 6 month ban last time, 2 got nothing...

 

[Aion]

they do not scan your files. if that was the case then just rename HB to Cartoon maker.... they scan the memory using wow. it does not tell them what account is using the bot. it just tells them that the bot is being used while your wow accounts are being used.

blizzard does not do random memory checks its a waste of time. too many accounts and no way to tell if your using the bot that day. someone reported you or you were doing high risk botting.

2 ways to find the bot 1)you the end the user . they check your memory through your account, you get reported ,or doing dumb stuff. and 2) they detect the bot itself . few mass bans have been from bot detection but not All ..some were just building up of reports

Even after we both clearly speculate, I cannot agree with you.

Because while blizzard attempt to scan for 3rd party software in their own memory space, if they found such, they flag the account, logged within the same WoW client, using this memory space.

And its obvious, each WoW client session use its own dedicated memory space in Windows XP+, so no, on the sessions, which are not botted, they would not flag a clean account.

This was proved by myself too, in the last may'16 banwave, I was actively botting on 8 accounts and never botted on one. Got bans on 7 of the botting, while one of them survived, probably due to it started botted just 24hours before, and the non-botted survived too!

Keep in mind, the non-botted account already have 6 other bans on its b.net, including 2 received on the same banwave, 2 from previous banwave and 2 permanents from way back (for botting of course )