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So, what have we learned about botting in the last few months?

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ajc82388

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Seems like bots only last a week or two maybe (if your lucky) and then get the banhammer.
Some people say HB deletes the wow.exe icon or something, and that's whats triggering bans lately.
Some say if you do NOT run wow as administrator, warden cannot scan outside of wow for other processes.
What is true and what isn't?
Has anybody been botting SUCCESSFULLY for the last month or more? without a ban?
Doesn't matter how many safety plugins you use it seems, even if another player NEVER sees you, banhammer still comes after a week or so... Not enough time to recoup the $ spent on the account to turn a profit.

Anybody have any insight here?
 
Still have only one mainaccount, never been banned... so I guess the problem isn't the bot it's the botters...
 
ajc82388 said:
Seems like bots only last a week or two maybe (if your lucky) and then get the banhammer.
Some people say HB deletes the wow.exe icon or something, and that's whats triggering bans lately.
Some say if you do NOT run wow as administrator, warden cannot scan outside of wow for other processes.
What is true and what isn't?
Has anybody been botting SUCCESSFULLY for the last month or more? without a ban?
Doesn't matter how many safety plugins you use it seems, even if another player NEVER sees you, banhammer still comes after a week or so... Not enough time to recoup the $ spent on the account to turn a profit.

Anybody have any insight here?
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I'm interested in any an all insight we can get on this. I'm being insanely precautious until this is figured out.
 
facedark said:
Don't bot 24/7. :) Make the bot look human in what it does all day.
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doesnt matter because a ton of people have bveen banned using ONLY combat routines apparently. Not using insane fast interrupts either so it does look human.
 
ajc82388 said:
doesnt matter because a ton of people have bveen banned using ONLY combat routines apparently. Not using insane fast interrupts either so it does look human.
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can you show any proof of this, I've never seen or heard of this happening
 
I have been using Honor Buddy since around last March. I have lost seven accounts, but it was because I was using SoR accounts, and the bans were not botting related. I have been using combat routines exclusively on my main and I have never had a ban/warning. I remember when I used to use MMO Glider, when it became detected, thousands of accounts were banned at once. Trust me, when a bot is detected, you will find out extremely quickly. It wouldn't be a few people posting about bans a day, it would be the whole community posting about account bans.

What I am trying to say is: Honor Buddy is not dedicated by Warden. Bot safely. Don't use public profiles. Do not bot for extended periods of time. And if you are really afraid of losing an account, do not bot on it. Very simple logic. I hope this post was informative.
 
i bot on 8 accounts all 24/7 for 4 month now. only thing i had was a 72h ban on one account. if your accounts last only 2 weeks you do something badly wrong
 
h4xxor said:
i bot on 8 accounts all 24/7 for 4 month now. only thing i had was a 72h ban on one account. if your accounts last only 2 weeks you do something badly wrong
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and what do you do with those 8 accounts?
surely it isnt gathering or instance running?
 
Most of the ban reasons are not caused by honorbuddy, the reason is on the other side of the monitor. Botting isn`t allowed, so try not beeing stupid and you won`t get banned.

In the last 4 month I leveled up 3 Accounts, each one with 3 lvl 90, leveld up 3 Chars on my main account, farmed alot of gold and never had trouble.

Buddy, it is against the law in a lot of countries to scan proecesses out of their own process, so warden won`t do it.

i deleted wow64 exe on all of my accounts, eaven on the ones I don`t bot on. If you got banned, its because of you. If you know something is against the therms of use, don`t play with the fire and dont push the imit too far.
 
the insight is don't use gatherbuddy to herb / mine and you won't get banned.
 
Mr_Pibb said:
so try not beeing stupid and you won`t get banned.
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So what your saying is the Developers and profile writers are stupid? You are aware that a lot of them have been banned in this wave of bans right? fpsware, botanist and others, you know, people that have been doing this for a while now and kind of know what they are doing...but since you have not been caught yet it automatically means everyone else is stupid for getting caught? btw I'm also curious as to why if its illegal for warden to scan your processes so they don't use it , I wonder why they pay large amounts of money to have it updated along with Governor??????
 
starlite68 said:
the insight is don't use gatherbuddy to herb / mine and you won't get banned.
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Gb and ofc bg buddy is a joke, using this with on gb public profiles or bgbuddy with that retarded start movement for over a
year is asking to be banned. Funny thing is how its been told many times how retarded in every bg this bot starts. And how easy
it is to spot a bot in the first 10 secs of the game. The vids on youtube with all people doing the same etc etc, yet it cant be fixed.
And even worse, people still use it. You might not be banned now, but in 2 months with another cleanup, your account belongs to
the "wave"
 
Some people say HB deletes the wow.exe icon or something, and that's whats triggering bans lately.
Some say if you do NOT run wow as administrator, warden cannot scan outside of wow for other processes.
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These are some weird assumpstions if you ask me, botting is never safe and never will be. It's all up to the person and who's watching you. Do you play on a populated realm? if so then yes it will be easier to be spotted depending on when and where you level. Have you ever been in problem before with blizzard? if so then they will probably watch you more then others. There's really no answer to why some people are lucky and to why some are not. It's like winning a lottery. You can be as safe as possible and not bot like a maniac and still be banned. I have been lucky and have been botting without any precautions and still haven't been banned. I've used this bot for 1 year roughly and the bot have sometimes been on for 4 days straight with just leveling one toon without getting in trouble. I'm not sure why people try to evolve and figure out what makes you get banned. It's based on luck.
 
Hachico said:
I'm not sure why people try to evolve and figure out what makes you get banned. It's based on luck.
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Thats the point, it isnt no more. In before fanboys and tinfoil hats. Why would you not try to figure out what got you banned or how you
can prevent the obvious from happening to you. Looks more like you stopped halfway evolution and still walk on all 4. Of course we can speculate all
we want and will never know what the reason was, still we can try to make it as safe as possible, and with using bgbuddy, gatherbuddy, cr's with instant
interupts or trinket usage on, is not based on luck, its using your brain.

The debate whether or not they scan in or out of theyre zone and what is legal and illegal can be held again but is pointless. I do believe if they do it, it is legal. They are covered in one way or the other. If not, they could face one massive lawsuit if they "invaded privacy - did something illegal by scanning " and could have millions of subs against them in one big lawsuit.

Fact is, we got posts of raiders being banned, people who only use the bot to raid on tyrael / lazyraider. Ofcourse its debatable or questionable if they didnt do another thing, buts lets say we believe em. How in earth do they get banned then.

Maybe stop trying to make this a thread of fanboys against caution ones, and try to figure out what is going on.

Hachico said:
the bot have sometimes been on for 4 days straight with just leveling one toon without getting in trouble.
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hahaha, lost all faith in you there. There is NO profile that runs for 4 days straight without any problems. No matter which one you use, you will
get stuck, you will move weird and you will get noticed. Dont tell me you ran bg cause even there, the problem is even bigger.

4 days straight, never.
 
still botting on my main account, I got this account since WOW classic alpha. I'm only using HB to level (grind) and as a raidbot not for (gold)faming
 
I personally took like a year break from botting, came back mid mop, where they banned accounts left and right and quickly stopped again. But for the last 1-3 months my bots managed to survive, i have only been farming with randombuddy profiles and either i got lucky, or they prevent the lcp shit people were talking about.
 
A year ago I probably would have agreed that they figured out a way to track it or monitor or use waypoints, etc. I lost a few accounts like most did, I changed my methods and profiles (made my own custom), used more plugins, etc. Been running multiple accounts since with no problems gathering / ah'ing daily. I'm hardly a fan boy, and I left my tin foil hat here about a year ago, but honestly its either they know about EVERYONE that uses it and only ban a few randomly or the people that are getting detected within a few days/weeks etc are just doing it wrong. I use it still on my main account, BGbuddy, gatherbuddy, ah profiles etc and no issues for like a year.
TL;DR: If you keep getting caught with new accounts and in a short period of time, re-evaluate what you're doing, how you're gathering, how long you're gathering, what profiles you use, etc. Use plugins, change settings, reset your router IP and try again. I find it hard to believe that they know about everyone and only ban a few random accounts a day.
 
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