Setting up 10 different bots. (I want 1 computer involved.)

[Owneth]

Greetings,

I have done this in the past with Gatherbuddy2 and it worked great on a Corei7 920 @ 4.1ghz with 8GB of ram. (This was awhile ago.) Now I want to do 10X dungeonbuddy. (I currently have purchased 7 legit keys and was scammed out of 3 more by a member on these forums, but it's cool. Karma bites hard. And it will. Life goes on.

Now, I currently own: (Stats)

Asus Maximus VII
16GB of Corsair Vengeance Ram (2400mhz)
Intel 520 SSD X2 500/500mb basically. And 1- 2 TB HDD (WD) for storage.
Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.6 OC with a H105 Push/Pull in that Push/Pull the push fan is a SP120 Performance Edition from Corsair.
ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II (Non Top with Top edition bios added forcefully.) @ 1.152 stable 2GB (Yes believe it or not I got one of the golden ones.) I won't argue this with people. It's been rock solid (minus bad drivers/board issues like chip-set drivers) for close to 2 years. I'm not going to part with it until it dies a horrible death. So far... So good. Worry about it later when it's a problem, eventually I KNOW it will be because who can get a card that good and not have SOMETHING go wrong... RIGHT?!!!


My fan story (Cool story bro.):
The exit fan is actually a off the market fan which is crazy air flow on it, called Excalibur by Cooler Master. (They don't sell these anymore.) But they are AMAZING fans but a tiny tad bit noisy. But nothing I don't hear/have a problem with. It's NBD to me as I have never found silent (besides pure water cooling) to be near or at silent. And I refuse at this time to get a loop going yet... Still not sold on custom water loops as I see more and more closed loop solutions coming out and I think that is where things are going and custom loops will be shut out performance wise eventually long term. As an example what Fractal Design just dropped as a closed loop 3 rad system... So I support the cause. Corsair has the new video card cooler bracket/mount too for the smaller H series... It's just going there and I can't really NOT buy it because it's so much easier to accomplish without all the guess work or "knowledge" needed to run a custom loop PROPERLY. I am not going to destroy 1000's of dollars of investment and time on something that could fail by design and I'd rather wait and see where things go with Closed Loops for now. It's not entirely off the table, but it's a strong consideration of tabling the whole custom loop idea all together.

So carrying along now...

The CFM/MM is amazing on them imho for how quiet they are in comparison to many fans I've used. I plan to eventually go pure Noctua when they have these new black ones easily and readily available LOCALLY. I try to refrain from online purchasing because I live in Silicon Forest (Oregon) and we have to support our local shops/tech that's growing here as it's becoming one of the #1 industries here.

Thus my fan story is understood, but I'll keep going...

Anyhow...

I have a AF120 in the bottom of the case in the front from the bottom blowing up towards the top of the case from the inside... This helps circulate the air better for the SP120 fan to pull cooler air than just what can be pulled in from the front... It's just an assist type fan.

I also have my H105 mounted to a harddrive rack in a reversed order where the fan would normally be mounted to the front of the case pulling cool air in. There is a purpose. Keep reading...

I will post a picture later on this. (It's a side point as I am getting to the nitty gritty of it all!)

I then have 2 top mounted fans blowing down which are CoolerMaster MegaFlow fans (120MM). I have 2 Megaflows on the door of the case blowing in against the side of the video card.

Then I have 1 fan (AF140 on the back.) And its on full RPM for obvious pressurization reasons. And it just works even though it's a bit odd/overkill of a set up.

Now the results...

4.6GHZ @ 1.2975 @ 69C in Prime95 stable and no errors for 48 hours. (I got one of the good chips too on top of the video card.)

Guess I know what I'm doing here now don't I? I think it's very good considering temps vs volts.

Anyhow...

Here's my issue AND question at hand...
I want to run 10 bots in DungeonBuddy (all same dungeon, non grouped) to make gold for personal use (I don't sell it or trade it.) It's all for me!

However I got around 5 running co-currently and in that I reach 76% cpu cycles and it fluctuates between 76-85% CPU. Ram is like 23% most days/nights.

How do I get the CPU down considerably. Is this even possible with HB DungeonBuddy now? It was back in GB2 days and Saronite Ore/Titanium Ore days...

I'd like to maximize my profits and free time via 30 day accounts and can't seem to decode WHAT is causing the crazy cycles... I've tried a lot from services to thinking maybe my config in HB might be the issue. I have done the "lower than low" settings from the internetz... Still no luck 100% of what I am looking for.

I can't see how WoW could take up that much CPU for just 10 bots in very very very low bot situations. The graphics are pretty much mirrored because groups are the dungeon runs... Not all different places... So it makes no sense!!! I have a pretty decent system, and it screams on everything I throw at it. Chrome opens in under a second, Office under 2, Everything else is mega fast, low resources. What could I be doing wrong here configuration wise?

 

[pimp22]

And how much is at running 10bots?

 

[namednoob]

Lower your graphs to min and reduce the wow window to say 800x600 and see if that helps.

Also delete your interface folder on wow and let it run with no custom plugins.

 

[Owneth]

Yeah I don't have addons, and I don't have plugins. Just the standards. Also Pimp22? What? LOL!

Oh and I drink too much caffeine. OMFG I re-read what I wrote. OBVIOUSLY someone needs to lay the crap off the Rockstar.

 

[namednoob]

All I can really say is that your CPU is way too high, I have 5 running and it doesn't even go above 20% even with spikes on a 3930K which I could probably run 10+ all with DungeonBuddy(which I don plan after I finish some stuff), your video card is good enough, I use a 7950. Since the way you handle your game differs from how I do it, I would suggest you do start messing with the settings on wow, removing what you don't need running on the machine and all that crap and strip it down till you find what is eating all your CPU, like you said "I know what I'm doing here"

 

[DarkManz]

In the time that it took you to write that wall of text, you could/should have done a simple search in the HB search engine with the keywords "How to reduce CPU usage" or something similar.

It may have lead you to an article such as this: https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...ze-botting-windows-honorbuddy-wow-vmware.html

and many others, maybe there is something useful in there for you. Sorry about the wall of text comment, I could not resist. I tend to write in walls of text as well.

Happy hunting.

 

[Ilja Rogoff]

guess you don't need a supercomputer to do 10 bots, my i7 laptop computer would even run them. i ran 5 bots on dungeonbuddy with a cpu usage around 40-50%. graphics been set to use intel graphics, this is more efficient than running it on the built in nvidia 640m

 

[namednoob]

guess you don't need a supercomputer to do 10 bots, my i7 laptop computer would even run them. i ran 5 bots on dungeonbuddy with a cpu usage around 40-50%. graphics been set to use intel graphics, this is more efficient than running it on the built in nvidia 640m

Well i7 is a pretty decent CPU if you ask me another thing would be if you had said an i3 or i5 on my i7 2700K I can also run 10 bots but CPU is around 60~80%

 

[Owneth]

In the time that it took you to write that wall of text, you could/should have done a simple search in the HB search engine with the keywords "How to reduce CPU usage" or something similar.

It may have lead you to an article such as this: https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...ze-botting-windows-honorbuddy-wow-vmware.html

and many others, maybe there is something useful in there for you. Sorry about the wall of text comment, I could not resist. I tend to write in walls of text as well.

Happy hunting.

Yep. Did that already. There is something else going on... I don't think it's direct WoW settings... I think it's a system issue, however i'm not a dummy I just have spent ages trying to figure it all out and I tell ya... It doesn't change the CPU usage... No AV/Security (By choice as I only game on this system and I don't download and I keep it up to day with Windows updates) Nothing much more than gmail/youtube/wow websites thats about it!

 

[Cloudy]

Your 4770k should be able tun run 25-30 bots if you setup the clients right.
but for this amount you need 32gb+ ram

just two examples of two of my rigs:
intel xeon e3 1230 (v1)
is slower than your 4770k and can run 20 bots without any problems. 22/23 are also possible. but then im out of ram (32gb) and cpu.

i have a new i3, can run 10 bots. its way slower than your i7.
you see...its not a hardware problem.

as i can see now, your cpu is overclocked.
overclock and vm doesnt work.
overclock and botting is also not recommended, cause more power consumption and a lot of cooling.
noone needs OC for botting.

 

[Macatho]

Your 4770k should be able tun run 25-30 bots if you setup the clients right.
but for this amount you need 32gb+ ram

just two examples of two of my rigs:
intel xeon e3 1230 (v1)
is slower than your 4770k and can run 20 bots without any problems. 22/23 are also possible. but then im out of ram (32gb) and cpu.

i have a new i3, can run 10 bots. its way slower than your i7.
you see...its not a hardware problem.

as i can see now, your cpu is overclocked.
overclock and vm doesnt work.
overclock and botting is also not recommended, cause more power consumption and a lot of cooling.
noone needs OC for botting.

Indeed. This is usually the way it works, person brags about his computer but really just shows his incompetence when it comes to setting up the software.
I run a 1055T with a radeon 4850 and 8gb of ram, it runs 10 bots flawlessly.

 

[skizler]

Lower your graphs to min and reduce the wow window to say 800x600 and see if that helps.

Also delete your interface folder on wow and let it run with no custom plugins.

Totally this. A lot of people don't realize how much of a difference it makes if you minimize each WoW window.

 

[Cloudy]

Indeed. This is usually the way it works, person brags about his computer but really just shows his incompetence when it comes to setting up the software.
I run a 1055T with a radeon 4850 and 8gb of ram, it runs 10 bots flawlessly.

Yeah but after this you need more ram

The next step is manage everything. if you fail with the software you should maybe think about reducing your requirements.
running 10 bots is not everything. do you sell everything from the run, or do you keep something or specific items to maximize profit...for this you wont find any public profile.
donnu what os you use, but my win7 64bit runs with 500-600mb ram. i dont use win 8, but there should be something similar possible

read through the internet like all of us (who run more bots then you can imagine) or be fine with 5
a 4770k whos limit is 5 bots...big big fail bro

 

[zorked]

The problem lies in running so many Dungeons. I guess it's something in the lines of grim Batol or something similarly wide (with a crater with liquid flowing down there and stuff). Those Instances produce a massive amount of CPU load especially with HB.

You could run 30 Gatherbots with your machine without breaking a sweat but the wrong dungeons just don't work that well.

 

[Soullinker]

OP you will get banned.

Have you considered how you gonna keep your bots save from flags? You will be running 10 accounts on 1 IP/machine.
All it needs is 1 GM to check 1 of your flagged accounts to ban the whole 10. It has happened before to me. And having 10 accounts with not a single flag for a long time is hard. The idea to run dungeons only will get you banned.

 

[DavidG93]

The problem lies in running so many Dungeons. I guess it's something in the lines of grim Batol or something similarly wide (with a crater with liquid flowing down there and stuff). Those Instances produce a massive amount of CPU load especially with HB.

You could run 30 Gatherbots with your machine without breaking a sweat but the wrong dungeons just don't work that well.

bullshit. I ran grimbatol with a shitload of bots on the same CPU.

 

[Cloudy]

its true that in theory dungeons need more cpu...but all my wows running with 1-4% cpu load, no matter what they do. only hb has do more work in dungeons but only with dungeonbuddy botbase.
questing botbase works normal in dungeons.

soullinker is right, if one gets flagged and a gm looks into the (let me call it) "flag report", he bans all your accounts on this ip.
But try out yourself, it will work for 1-2 weeks maybe, but then its over.