Safety, before buying and using

[yeepeefr]

Hi,

As you asked me to post this thread in support when i emailed you to support i ll do so. I have 2 questions, most important about safety measures, second one about multisession.

SAFETY MEASURES

I was wondering how you hide from warden (dont need the details wath you ll imply i understand) because warden is not only able to identify a memory hack but also a process tag even renamed.

I know that because i used glider for wow for a long time, they used first an autorenaming feature. Warden was updated and banwave Wink

Then they developped a lower level (ANSI levels) driver to "shadow" their process from warden. Since then no banwave. Only option for Blizzard was to sue them and they won. They did that because the program annoyed them of course because of gold reseller and popularity (10% of botters).

So if you dont use any specific low level driver to hide your bot, even renamed, it is easily detectable by warden the day they want too.

Please let me know (even in private mail if you want for moderators) if its the case or not. For me its the most important point before buying because once flag, they also flag your ip and mac (mac can easily be changed, ip depends on your provider but you still can use a vpn proxy wich will make you look suspicious if its in another country suddenly lol).

Another feature question (that glider was providing even after they develop the shadow driver) : do you instantly detect wardens update and shutdown your program from disabling all licenses as long as you have checked warden new fatures (they did that even after th shadow driver because they knew Blizzard was after them but seems their only way to cut them off was by suing them, a shame, never get banned after shadow driver, only reported once by a player so i knew my account was flagged and kept low profile for couple weeks).

MULTISESSION

First, is a multi windowing soft like lavishsoft required for multi session, i was using it for 6 accounts unboted on diablo 3 only to get more slots in AH.

Second : if i want to run 4 demon buddy in group, is it possible or it will be 4 seperate alone tasks in diablo 3 (not grouped, each acting on their own)

Third : for multisession on one computer, do i need to buy 1 license per session (or per computer) ?

Many thanks in advance for your answer.


Best regards

PS : for info after that (glider shut down but they never gave name of their customers) i installed mac os and botted on it on wow as they was no warden for mac and finally get bored. I dont know if its still the case though for warden not being deployed on MAC.

PS 2 : does your bot is up to date with last version of ROS and generally how long does it take to update after a ROS update

 

[Yallquit]

Safety: I can't speak for that, but I do know that Honorbuddy has a feature called tripwire that when activated in response to a warden update, it disable every key from connecting to the auth server.

Multisession: Yes you can run DB in a group although you might have to edit the source of some of the profiles to enable the "stay in party" feature. I personally haven't tried but I'm sure you could theoretically have a bot say farm bounties while another farms the key wardens and does rifts, ect.

License: The key you buy is the license. That key can be used on any computer and can only be used on 1 account at a time. So if you planned on botting multiple accounts you could need to buy a key for each individual account.

 

[yeepeefr]

thanks, in process, can you see either demonbuddy process or its renamed one? if yes warden can easily catch it anytime he wants

 

[Cheater]

Been botting on several accounts since the beginning and my main now which is highly ranked on season leaderboards and none of my accounts have ever been banned.

 

[yeepeefr]

i have history with glider on wow. Wath they ban first is anything that hack memory. They dont care about botting till the community complains or if you are very suspicious behavior (fresh accounts are flag if leveled too fast). But once they will care, there s absolutely no way to avoid it if the process can be seen in process list, even renamed, unless you develop a trick at a layer device level (ANSI). Thats the hisotory of infamous glider lol. It became too good for Blizzard so that the first ban wave came and everyone on at that time using the bot was banned when warden updated, and they (Blizzard) did that so it didnt trigger the glider feature seeking for warden update (Blizzard is not dumb). After that, they (glider team) took their time and developped a "shadow" method (aka a driver level process) that was impossible for warden to detect (however hard they tried at that time for more than a year, only manual reports by player could get you banned after investigation). it is the only safe method. Finally only soultion for Blizzard was to sue Glider team (and ofc they won after a year). Tripwire, well, the day blizzard wanna banwave demonbuddy (main reason being its too popular and community complains), they can upgrade warden in a way it wont be detected by tripwire. Thats why i was hoping the developpers could answer.
But anyone can answer, just check your process list, if demonbuddy or its rename one is there, no way i use it i d rather develop my own (but more restricted bot) using rather simple solutions i used after glider shutdown (mac os being one if warden is still not deployed on it).

Blizzard was very afraid by the mean Glider team developped to hide their process from warden because they had no way to detect it, as hard as they tried, and they only came to an agreement as long as glider team never revealed the code of their method.
More information here Glider (bot) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[whiti]

only because you can see the process xD wtf, don´t you think when blizzard sues hb and db after this long time of undetectable and they even wanted to detect them xD omg i think you have no sense about what you talking

 

[yeepeefr]

hi, well, no idea about i m talking, sadly i do. Blizzard bans on report or flagged account untill they need a ban wave. When they need a banwave (mainly because of other players complaining), it is really easy to detect a specific process, renamed or not. You need a thing lets say like a rootkit to really hide it, and so far only one company was able to develop it and as players was complaining, when they couldnt use warden to detect it, then they decided to sue them. Dont worry, if the process can be seen, blizzard wont sue demonbuddy. The day they want all demonbuddy on are all gone tripwire or not.

Unless you have a mac version and warden is still not deployed on mac (historically, mac os refused a warden like process as it was too intrusive in their OS but i dont know if its still the case).

Why blizzard didnt ban you yet? because the more accounts you buy to bot the more the money they make

They never ban unless players report or massively complains. We ll see if history give me reason lol. Then they let banned guys rebuy new accounts and wait till new complains. Its money buisness as long as they can detect it with warden. Only once in all history Blizzard was facing a bot massively used they couldnt detect on wow. They didnt care about the Mac OS version that much because only a few used and it required also some work on the user side.

If you think i know nothing about warden or Blizzard policy you re wrong (we had some intel directly from a warden developper on glider forums, why do you think they also bought the mmoglider site lol).

 

[duddz]

Since D3 has no subscription, Blizzard doesn't really care about botting. If they could detect, or the efforts to make it detectable would be worth it, they would do it. Blizzard even removed the menu entry to report players cheating or botting... So as long as you don't run the bot 24/7 (and even that's not a guaranteed ban) everything will be (most likely) fine.

 

[Syn-Ack]

Either buy the bot or don't, The only ban wave since bind on account items was minimal and the main targets were multi-session boxers and only a quarter to half of them got hit who were botting 3-4+ clients and most did not even use VPN's. As for everything else, It does not matter how advanced your bot you 'develop' is. Diablo 3 has incredible tracking/logging stats, You might be able to make a private undetectable bot and get away with it BUT you would have to set the bot to play like a real player thus defeating the purpose of botting. Go all in or don't go in at all basically. You think Blizzard doesn't notice these people 'playing' for 20-24 hours a day repeating the same various things over and over and over for weeks on end with no rest/sleep? They simply don't care right now about bots. Hell I think TurboHud got more of a fuss because blizzard mainly took concern over seasons greater rifts and the ability thud gave to players in the highest tiered rifts to advance farther and thats the only reason they spoke out on it. I lost 1 of 12 accounts botting D3 and that was back early early D3 release probably the very first ban wave after the AH was open for a few months when 75% of other people got banned I was selling gold in mass using early version DB sarkoth scripts to goldfind bot 24/7 on 8 accounts and the main account that got banned was the gold mule who was also selling on the RMAH, one other got suspended temp but that was all.

You are thinking too much about this, If you are afraid of getting caught dont bot simple as that. You might have your own reasons for wanting to bot 4-5 clients at once but I don't know why since its all bind to account and its not goin anywhere theres nothing to sell except the account itself which is bleh. Please don't compare wowglider to demonbuddy, or any of the buddy bots. They are completely different.

 

[Nillwas]

I have been botting 100 days non stop.
Been offline 1 one day because i was away
I think its safe.
Got 700 paragon level sc.
400 paragon level season sc.
I have done 21k bounties.
4k rift.
Dont bot stupid, i mean dont bot with another ppl or something like that.

 

[Winchester]

updates/patch on DB can take about 24hrs but can extend up to around 72hrs(in rare cases).
DB has a trip wire that disconnects client when Warden is detected or a ban wave is happening (of course they need proof not just reports).

If you are too afraid, then do not buy DB.
Even if everyone here guarantees that its safe, it doesnt mean squat.
If you get banned, then you get banned. end of story.

 

[ABuH]

more than a year botting here, randomly days, sometimes a week straight.
1 account.

I have 2 trusted friends (Job friends) at my list. I don't do public profiles, and sometimes changing acts profiles. (if YetAnotherRelogger, you can set time played and rested time)


some people bot 24/7 and not get caught, I dont have the guts.

I recommend DB.

 

[Doowron6]

So what are the best precautions we can implement to avoid being detected and banned. People were talking about renaming specific files so they exclude the word demonbuddy. Not botting 24/7. I know a lot of people talk about botting 24/7 but this is probably the easiest way to be detected if Blizzard really wanted to do something. Any other general measures to elude the ban hammer?

 

[Syn-Ack]

Dunno, I will continue to bot 20-24/7. Im over para 750+ NS and could easily be 800-850 had I kept going exp but I stopped for a while and ran keys for weeks straight. Got a paragon 520ish seasons too, Though it slows down around paragon 500. It is considerably easier to bot 1-500 then it is 500-700. With the addition of the boon gem, You can now inflate your gold collected and no one be the wiser upon profile viewing. I used to have like 18 billion gold collected, with only 15k blood shards collected and paragon 600. Now my seasonal tab has 8bil collected alone from like 3 days of botting t6 rifts with boon. Legendary gems made botting T6 rifts so much easier due to dmg increase from them so now its easy to have equal stats and good blood shard count to match the rest.