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Rogue PvE raiding

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Fukinkou

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So yeah, I've been trying to get information on rogue combatroutines for weeks now, but noone in any of the threads actually respond, so I am trying here.
Is anyone here actually using a routine for raiding as a rogue?
Which one? Does it work good? Feel free to respond here or send me a PM.

Paid/Free doesnt matter, just looking for a good combatroutine for sub/combat.
 
Thats because people are not giving any help ive sent dozens of private messages to people and dont recieve a answer because they only care about themselfs they dont give a crap about helping anyone else as for routines yes tuanha is the only one updating anything right now and your best bet is to go with that cr but dont exspect to get past heroic content due to how bad cr's are and developers cant or wont help push a more up to date cr to push current content. This xpack has been by far the worse for getting any help with cr's or any help configing them to put out the best dps gl if you think you will get help this community has gone to shit.
 
Let's not judge everyone at once here shall we.
I've gotten loads of help from any thread Millz runs (not only by him, most users aswell) but it does seem that there just arent enough people using the routines regularly I guess.

I tried TuanHa in my altraid last night and it worked fine, but as you said, probably wont go beyond heroics (which is all I raid now, so that's fine with me).
The thing I hate about TuanHa is the lack of information. For example, the raid-routine that you can load with it sets all CD's to "on burst".

What does on burst mean? When does it burst? Can I change when it bursts?
Stuff like that. There are alot of options, but alot of them are kinda tricky to figure out what they actually do, and that is what I wanted help with.
 
I myself have never raided (at a competitive level) on rogue, I have however on hunter, and Tauna has great - however it does take tweaking per raid boss
I suggest running the raid with a pug to test things, when you find a good setting that works save it as "<Boss Name>.xml" then you can easily load it next time.
Generally each boss will need a setting if you want to perform optimally.
Each raid blizzard releases they have a patchwerk style boss, start on that - its a good basis to get your general settings right.
Once you have done that you can go one step further and write custom plugins that will auto-switch targets for you, use CD's etc at the times you like - this isnt needed but it does help you reach top dps rankings (100%) instead of 98%.

There are loads of discussions on Tanuha's rogue sites on how to best set it up for raiding, but one persons setting wont work for every person, its trial and error and practice.
Keep in mind - dps can fluctuate - as an example on my DK at present in crappy dps gear I can do 40k dps (single target) if i focus 100% and dont stuff up my movement / targeting once, however if i slack i do 25k dps - yet its exactly the same rotation done by the bot.
 
winifix said:
I myself have never raided (at a competitive level) on rogue, I have however on hunter, and Tauna has great - however it does take tweaking per raid boss
I suggest running the raid with a pug to test things, when you find a good setting that works save it as "<Boss Name>.xml" then you can easily load it next time.
Generally each boss will need a setting if you want to perform optimally.
Each raid blizzard releases they have a patchwerk style boss, start on that - its a good basis to get your general settings right.
Once you have done that you can go one step further and write custom plugins that will auto-switch targets for you, use CD's etc at the times you like - this isnt needed but it does help you reach top dps rankings (100%) instead of 98%.

There are loads of discussions on Tanuha's rogue sites on how to best set it up for raiding, but one persons setting wont work for every person, its trial and error and practice.
Keep in mind - dps can fluctuate - as an example on my DK at present in crappy dps gear I can do 40k dps (single target) if i focus 100% and dont stuff up my movement / targeting once, however if i slack i do 25k dps - yet its exactly the same rotation done by the bot.
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Thanks for the information, but I have to say (I have no idea about hunters, never played one) that there really isn't that much you can change around with a rogue. There's one priolist and its pretty basic. SnD --> Rupture --> Everything else.
What I am looking for is basicly someone that has actually raided with a rogue routine, but it seems impossible to find someone, not sure why lol :P

Regarding different settings for different bosses, not sure it's really needed. maybe if you really want to, but I only use the routine to do rotations. Defensive cds / movement and addswitching is done manually by me. As I said earlier, I do think that tuanha's rogue is doing a decent job keeping rupture up on multiple targets and whatnot, the only thing I really want is someone that has actually used it for a bit longer time to just have a talk to :P

Thanks all for your responses!
 
I am currently doing heroic with my rogue and as stated tuanha is about the only up to date cr that will work with no flaws besides not pushing max dps. I just found a nother option but its against this forums rues to throw websites out but if you type in soap... rotation in google then you will find what im talking about. be warned blizz just hit them with a massive bann from what i hear be carful and use it just like you would with hb its alot better then any cr here.
 
@Fukinkou - sorry should have clarified more, I changed talents per boss - for example barrage was useless on butcher fight (for me) so i used glaive toss, and configured the bot to use that (and unticked barrage and the other thing from that talent line).
With that change alone i was getting a 3-4k dps increase, which was alot in 630 blues at the time.

Even if you think, what could this talent change, try it see if it works and remember to run 3-4 attempts per change to see if it really is an "on-average" increase or just a lucky proc pull.
 
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