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Rogue customclass for bg's

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Fiveoh4

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Just wondering if anyone could recommend a cc that works well in bg's? Ive tried a few and they are so so easy to spot. I wish they were like the warrior cc Ezarms.. that cc works perfect in bg's.
 
I was wondering this too. I was using Apsalar but since Strix quit I need a new one to use. I'll try this one tomorrow.
 
I tried all of them.. im using fpsware rogue cc atm and it seems to be the best shot i have for botting bg's atm. I have to say my warrior is fully geared thanks to ezarms :D I can seriously leave and come back in 12 hours feeling comfortable with it, amazing cc that im always 1-3 top damage and kills on the chart every game.
 
FPSWARE is not wanting to work for me, and wRogue just runs past everyone. Looks like Singular Combat spec bg it is!
 
I dont have a warrior but EzRet completely wrecks people in BGs. Obliv, I'll give yours a try today if someone can find a build to go with. I don't know anything about a rogue without HB.
 
Sadly Mastahg (guy who does the "ez" CCs) doesn't have one for rogues to my knowledge. He does an excellent jobs with his CCs. With that said, I'm in the same boat. i've tried all the rogue CCs and they just aren't that good.

I don't think its the CC per se though...I think it's just the way a Rogue has to be played that makes it really hard to make a solid CC. If someone comes up with one, lmk i'm happy to test it out. Currently I'm stuck using the Combat spec since this seems to work much better than the other specs when it comes to Rogue CCs.
 
I know PvP isn't all about dps, but honestly I don't really see the point in having any other spec for rogue except combat right now. Blizzard seems to have given combat some HGH. I've seen numbers from various geared, leveled, and experienced rogues for all three specs and combat seems to always come out on top in numbers.

But, like I said just a moment ago, PvP's not all about dps numbers. You have to play, live, move, and dps all at once. I get that. I guess, in my own personal opinion, you're going to die in PvP anyway so why not try and wreck someone as fast as possible before you die? Go combat and bring the pain. Why? Because, as it stands right now (and keep in mind this is only from what I've used so far) the combat CCs that are listed are just crazy good compared to sub/muta rogue CCs (CC devs that have made sub/muta CCs I swear I mean no offense. I don't own those types of rogues, so I haven't tested the CCs recently since some of the changes to class have come around). Just stick with what works, earn your honor, spend it, and then do everything else.

Sorry, not trying to sound douchey or anything. I was just trying to make sense out of all the requesting for sub/muta rocue CCs when there are perfectly good combat ones laying around that outshine the other specs.
 
The problem is really the class in general. It's too difficult to write a CC that's nearly as smart as it should be. With Combat you do enough damage out of stealth that it isn't as big of an issue. With other specs, being out of stealth will generally get you killed and you do very little damage out of stealth unless your CDs are ready.

Most other classes can easily brute-force PvP. Use the hardest hitting abilities and blow cool-downs when needed. Except for combat, rogue positioning and stealth is very difficult to account for.
 
Obliv said:
The problem is really the class in general. It's too difficult to write a CC that's nearly as smart as it should be. With Combat you do enough damage out of stealth that it isn't as big of an issue. With other specs, being out of stealth will generally get you killed and you do very little damage out of stealth unless your CDs are ready.

Most other classes can easily brute-force PvP. Use the hardest hitting abilities and blow cool-downs when needed. Except for combat, rogue positioning and stealth is very difficult to account for.
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This is very true. I've seen enough rogues in PvP to know exactly what you mean. Most of them do play either Mut, or sub, and they're always stealthed for a majority of the time. It's skills such as cheap shot, kidney shot, etc for PvP that are needed most for the rogue's stunlock effects to work the best. I haven't taken my rogue into BGs yet because frankly I just don't like PvP all that much. For me, on my realm, alliance really sucks ass in BGs so my honor gains are very slow. When I started in 2007 it was due to some friends talking me into playing and since they were the only ones I knew, I made an alliance toon.

Now, here I am 5 years later, still alliance. I should, month by month, convert my toons to horde but I really feel it's just a waste of money. Horde dominates the BGs on my server, and they're probably at a 3:1 ratio versus alliance, but I just can't bring myself to do it. So, when I get really bored, I just load up BGBot and pick a random toon (usually my DK or pally) and let it run until I want to level or run dungeons again. I've only gotten a couple of trinks, a ring, and a neck item out of all the time I've spent in the BGs. I just can't tolerate how long it takes me to build up honor because of all the losses alliance suffers. lol

But, I agree with you, rogue is a hard class to create a CC for for PvP due to all the stealth needs, skills, and positioning.
 
When Strix was doing his Apsalar CC is was awesome. I watched it completely dominate people in BG's. It stealthed for openers and vanished(or whatever) when it was low on HP. I didn't play my Rogue by hand after about lvl 12 but that CC seemed perfect. I still haven't tried the one suggested on page 1 but I did download it for when I want to gear my Rogue a little.
 
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