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[Request] Rogue Subtlety PvE raiding Routine.

cmurda25

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Just like the title says. I am looking for someone to create a raiding CC for Subtlety spec. Subtlety has taken a leap ahead of assassin and combat in single target DPS. I have gone through the elitistjerks post on subtlety in 5.4 and the final post goes over a pretty clear routine (Though many conditions to this routine). I dont know how easy this would be due to my lack of experience. But if donations are needed as motivation to get a solid working CC out I would gladly do so.
 
Just like the title says. I am looking for someone to create a raiding CC for Subtlety spec. Subtlety has taken a leap ahead of assassin and combat in single target DPS. I have gone through the elitistjerks post on subtlety in 5.4 and the final post goes over a pretty clear routine (Though many conditions to this routine). I dont know how easy this would be due to my lack of experience. But if donations are needed as motivation to get a solid working CC out I would gladly do so.
Not sure who's right here, but if I look at raidbots.com and check out the overall DPS, it appears that Sub Rogues are dead last.

This table from raidbots.com is kind of messed up since I just copy/pasted it. It was a formatted table on raidbots.com though, and it looked all pretty and easy to understand. However, if you read over it, you'll see that sub rogues are dead last in DPS out of all classes and specs. Assassination is still the best DPS spec for rogues in current content. But, as you said, you're talking single target DPS. I'm referring to overall DPS. So, I'm not sure who's right. I just go with the numbers, and the numbers say stay away from sub rogues for PVE.

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DPS
Class Spec Median Average Std Dev Min Max Samples % of Role

Hunter
Beast Mastery 231,521.0 100.0% 223,303.9 58,612.6 59,058 678,993 934 4.66%

Priest
Shadow 230,320.5 99.5% 229,755.4 72,369.4 24,238 961,673 930 4.64%

Mage
Arcane 228,492.0 98.7% 229,540.4 64,729.9 99,514 483,855 839 4.19%

Druid
Balance 227,140.5 98.1% 224,866.1 63,511.0 44,404 427,786 872 4.35%

Rogue
Assassination 219,790.0 94.9% 216,413.9 57,723.3 27,689 981,402 899 4.49%

Shaman
Elemental 214,596.0 92.7% 211,505.6 59,257.7 18,285 435,871 921 4.60%

Warlock
Affliction 212,677.5 91.9% 223,067.5 80,583.8 24,807 1,051,532 904 4.51%

Warlock
Destruction 211,504.0 91.4% 211,384.6 58,859.8 19,381 491,811 907 4.53%

Hunter
Survival 209,031.0 90.3% 209,453.3 55,304.8 17,068 442,068 913 4.56%

Warrior
Fury 208,656.5 90.1% 211,988.8 55,816.3 38,958 430,710 876 4.37%

Mage
Fire 199,628.0 86.2% 202,839.3 56,896.4 25,435 571,906 848 4.23%

Paladin
Retribution 199,233.0 86.1% 200,365.9 50,959.3 43,143 450,019 907 4.53%

Death Knight
Frost 198,687.0 85.8% 195,957.8 51,552.1 20,388 400,631 932 4.65%

Monk
Windwalker 198,089.5 85.6% 202,531.0 66,128.3 29,386 830,364 868 4.33%

Mage
Frost 195,643.5 84.5% 192,529.0 50,820.6 42,379 426,454 902 4.50%

Warrior
Arms 193,759.0 83.7% 199,361.6 69,147.2 36,742 467,139 861 4.30%

Shaman
Enhancement 191,252.0 82.6% 197,440.5 57,267.3 33,776 422,263 839 4.19%

Warlock
Demonology 173,273.0 74.8% 179,267.6 62,154.5 81,369 542,726 813 4.06%

Druid
Feral Cat 170,103.0 73.5% 182,567.2 62,608.0 23,643 454,288 839 4.19%

Rogue
Combat 163,199.0 70.5% 172,531.9 58,581.3 22,031 438,512 835 4.17%

Death Knight
Unholy 148,521.0 64.2% 155,805.1 49,212.8 47,108 349,410 815 4.07%

Hunter
Marksmanship 121,571.0 52.5% 131,406.3 49,364.5 64,920 355,002 813 4.06%

Rogue
Subtlety 95,574.0 41.3% 119,539.5 74,176.0 5,955 324,355 766 3.82%
 
Waldo already supports subtlety. But due to HB (issues) with stealth you can't force make the bot to press ambush if you go out of combat.

You can however add Pull which decreases raid performence by a long shot (pulse) or try and add it to PreCombat (which is a no go) so making the bot use vanish is a tricky thing to do.
 
Waldo already supports subtlety. But due to HB (issues) with stealth you can't force make the bot to press ambush if you go out of combat.

You can however add Pull which decreases raid performence by a long shot (pulse) or try and add it to PreCombat (which is a no go) so making the bot use vanish is a tricky thing to do.
Yeah, I've noticed that. It doesn't like to vanish and start combat again. You pretty much have to start combat all over again once you vanish, so you'd have to make an ambush macro to hit once the bot popped vanish.
 
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