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Since a few days, the Ban Section - Ban Reports, including the have a new "Reply" posting restriction, similar to the restrictions in the t section: (You may only post new threads, and reply in your own posted threads only!)
I asked in Honorbuddy Support if that is a temporary forum issue workaround or permanent change, since I dodged to find official announce regarding the change so far.
Below, Tony answered me fast enough:
I reminded him, that even the Discussions (no Ban Reports here) sub-forum is affected by the Reply post restriction, which does not really make any sense.
Then I started a discussion regarding the permanent change of the Ban Section - Ban Reports:
Of course this is private forum, so only the forum owners solely decide how their forum should look like, but from the position of frequent reader and poster in this forum section, I am confident, that initiating a short discussion with the community, (simple feedback about the pros and cons of certain changes), would bring much better and desirable result for the both sides.
Without being comprehensive, I could see several pros and cons regarding the change above:
1. No "Reply" button brings less moderation, required for the forum section, so the moderators could focus their power in more important tasks.
2. Less ban discussions could slow down the Blizzard's developers, reading the forum from countering the new ban-avoiding mechanisms, opened to the public here.
3. There should be more, of course ...
1. The counter mean of the above pros: More work for the moderators, our ban-avoiding methods are exposed to the Blizzard readers, etc ...
2. The customers, who take their time to leave a comprehensive ban report, are left handy-capped, without a single feedback.
It is good to contribute to the community, no doubts, but the majority of the people fill ban report templates in attempt to learn what they have mistaken in their botting play style, so next time they perform better!
This is similar to all the other kind of reports in thebuddyforum.com: Ask yourself what the customers could do, if for example the Honorbuddy Support section is disabled for replying from customer support, or the community developers are disabled to reply to their product's customers, posting support questions?
3. Customers, like anyone else, are not supposed to have strong background with the Honorbuddy, so their ban reports in common are rookie style, lack the ban template, or just miss a single vital information, which could explain their ban, and without a bit of assistance, or sometimes even babysitting from the community, their ban reports could became pointless at certain point.
Because the Ban Section - Ban Reports is not intended to be supported by the Honorbuddy Customer Support staff, like Honorbuddy Support section is, for example, so its proactive heavy moderation would dry the section out of customers and nobody would see enough reasons to share their own ban report. (This seems to already take place, since we have just a few reports in the last 3 days)
4. Section like Discussions (no Ban Reports here) is definitely a must for general questions, trolling or all-around stuff, related to the bans, but it is not capable on its own to replace the ban-solution pair in every particular case, shared inside the ban report threads.
CodenameG's answer were brief enough:
He must be correct, this does not seems direct Honorbuddy support issue, so I do "continue" the discussion in a new topic here:
I asked in Honorbuddy Support if that is a temporary forum issue workaround or permanent change, since I dodged to find official announce regarding the change so far.
Below, Tony answered me fast enough:
I reminded him, that even the Discussions (no Ban Reports here) sub-forum is affected by the Reply post restriction, which does not really make any sense.
Then I started a discussion regarding the permanent change of the Ban Section - Ban Reports:
Of course this is private forum, so only the forum owners solely decide how their forum should look like, but from the position of frequent reader and poster in this forum section, I am confident, that initiating a short discussion with the community, (simple feedback about the pros and cons of certain changes), would bring much better and desirable result for the both sides.
Without being comprehensive, I could see several pros and cons regarding the change above:
1. No "Reply" button brings less moderation, required for the forum section, so the moderators could focus their power in more important tasks.
2. Less ban discussions could slow down the Blizzard's developers, reading the forum from countering the new ban-avoiding mechanisms, opened to the public here.
3. There should be more, of course ...
1. The counter mean of the above pros: More work for the moderators, our ban-avoiding methods are exposed to the Blizzard readers, etc ...
2. The customers, who take their time to leave a comprehensive ban report, are left handy-capped, without a single feedback.
It is good to contribute to the community, no doubts, but the majority of the people fill ban report templates in attempt to learn what they have mistaken in their botting play style, so next time they perform better!
This is similar to all the other kind of reports in thebuddyforum.com: Ask yourself what the customers could do, if for example the Honorbuddy Support section is disabled for replying from customer support, or the community developers are disabled to reply to their product's customers, posting support questions?
3. Customers, like anyone else, are not supposed to have strong background with the Honorbuddy, so their ban reports in common are rookie style, lack the ban template, or just miss a single vital information, which could explain their ban, and without a bit of assistance, or sometimes even babysitting from the community, their ban reports could became pointless at certain point.
Because the Ban Section - Ban Reports is not intended to be supported by the Honorbuddy Customer Support staff, like Honorbuddy Support section is, for example, so its proactive heavy moderation would dry the section out of customers and nobody would see enough reasons to share their own ban report. (This seems to already take place, since we have just a few reports in the last 3 days)
4. Section like Discussions (no Ban Reports here) is definitely a must for general questions, trolling or all-around stuff, related to the bans, but it is not capable on its own to replace the ban-solution pair in every particular case, shared inside the ban report threads.
CodenameG's answer were brief enough:
but not constructive for me at all!
He must be correct, this does not seems direct Honorbuddy support issue, so I do "continue" the discussion in a new topic here:
