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RaptureATKUnitManager/AtkAddonControl

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mistahmikey

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Was wondering if there is any more detailed information about the in-game windowing system than I have been able to find. I am not a windows/.net developer (Linux is my normal environment), so I have no idea what the "RaptureAtkUnit" is, and I could find nothing about it via google. In particular, an explanation of how to use the AtkAddonControl.SendAction method and its parameters would be very helpful. Also, how does one determine the correct window name parameter for the RaptureAtkUnitManager.GetWindowByName? I tried listing RaptureAtkUnitManager.Controls method to list them, but the window I was interested in (in this case the Appraiser Collector window) didn't appear to be in the list, even though I had it open.

Would it be possible for Mastahg to post the code for one of the RemoteWindows so we could have a working example?

Thanks.
 
Yep, have taken a look at that documentation, but it is insufficient to really understand how it all works (at least for my feeble mind), hence the questions. Thanks for the info, though :)
 
Example code will do you no good. All data sent to a window needs to be reverse engineered from the game, so unless you have experience with reverse engineering and have the programs necessary to do so, trying to use SendAction will be pretty much useless for you.
 
kagamihiiragi17 said:
Example code will do you no good. All data sent to a window needs to be reverse engineered from the game, so unless you have experience with reverse engineering and have the programs necessary to do so, trying to use SendAction will be pretty much useless for you.
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Well dang. I am familiar with IDA Pro, but not familiar with windows internals, so that won't be happening anytime soon. I'll just hope the RebornBuddy coding wizards get around to adding that window in the future.

Thanks for the reply.
 
mistahmikey said:
Well dang. I am familiar with IDA Pro, but not familiar with windows internals, so that won't be happening anytime soon. I'll just hope the RebornBuddy coding wizards get around to adding that window in the future.

Thanks for the reply.
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What are you trying to do with the appraiser collector window?
 
Automatically turn in collectables. If you look at this post, https://www.thebuddyforum.com/rebor...938-modification-exmatts-fishing-profile.html, in OrderBotTags.zip there is an tag I created (TurnInCollectables) that interacts with this window using keystrokes. It works, but it must be manually configured to identify what collectables are required and where they are in the window, and relies on a bit of hocus/pocus to decide if the collectable cannot be turned in. It would be nice if the current list of desired collectables could be obtained directly from the window, and then have the ability to interact directly with the ones you wish to turn in, so it isn't possible for focus issues, timing issues, etc. to creep in and mess things up.
 
mistahmikey said:
Automatically turn in collectables. If you look at this post, https://www.thebuddyforum.com/rebor...938-modification-exmatts-fishing-profile.html, in OrderBotTags.zip there is an tag I created (TurnInCollectables) that interacts with this window using keystrokes. It works, but it must be manually configured to identify what collectables are required and where they are in the window, and relies on a bit of hocus/pocus to decide if the collectable cannot be turned in. It would be nice if the current list of desired collectables could be obtained directly from the window, and then have the ability to interact directly with the ones you wish to turn in, so it isn't possible for focus issues, timing issues, etc. to creep in and mess things up.
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That sounds relatively complex. If you want to mess around with trying to read data from the window, pull the pointer from RB and then poke around with it in IDA - you'll find that almost all data in the windows are usually at least 3 pointers deep though.
 
Ok, I might be willing to take a shot at it, assuming the free version of IDA is sufficient. Do you know if this is the case?

Assuming it is, is RaptureATK a product that is layered on top of the MS Windows internal windowing system? If so, is there any info you can point me to that describes it? If not, is there a relevant MS Windows internal data structure for a window that you can point me to?

Thanks for you help.
 
mistahmikey said:
Ok, I might be willing to take a shot at it, assuming the free version of IDA is sufficient. Do you know if this is the case?

Assuming it is, is RaptureATK a product that is layered on top of the MS Windows internal windowing system? If so, is there any info you can point me to that describes it? If not, is there a relevant MS Windows internal data structure for a window that you can point me to?

Thanks for you help.
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Completely custom for FFXIV.
 
mistahmikey said:
Any chance you could explain or provide an example of how to properly use the AtkAddonControl.SendAction Method?
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Not really, it's different for every window. Generally speaking, any action has a number of 'parameters' which are sent to the window. They're sent in pairs. The first parameter of SendAction is the number of pairs, followed by pairs of parameters.
 
kagamihiiragi17 said:
Not really, it's different for every window. Generally speaking, any action has a number of 'parameters' which are sent to the window. They're sent in pairs. The first parameter of SendAction is the number of pairs, followed by pairs of parameters.
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Whelp, I have procurred IDA Pro and have been playing around with it a bit, but not being a Windows guy, the learning curve is a bit steep. If you have any pointers on how best to use IDA to search for relevant information (particularly, what debugger do you use for finding pointers to dynamic data and how do you use IDA to search for them), I sure would appreciate the jump start. I don't need a complete tutorial; anything you are willing to provide will help I am sure.
 
mistahmikey said:
Whelp, I have procurred IDA Pro and have been playing around with it a bit, but not being a Windows guy, the learning curve is a bit steep. If you have any pointers on how best to use IDA to search for relevant information (particularly, what debugger do you use for finding pointers to dynamic data and how do you use IDA to search for them), I sure would appreciate the jump start. I don't need a complete tutorial; anything you are willing to provide will help I am sure.
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I have brute forced this one. The tag I created is quite feature rich, take a look and borrow anything you want, or just use the tag as is.

https://github.com/MGramolini/ExBuddy/blob/master/OrderBotTags/Common/TurnInCollectablesTag.cs
 
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