Questing bot - 1 click ?

[dayloon]

Hi,

The purpose of this post isn't to simply criticize the dev's or anything like that, just ask about the questing bot and bugs in general. Is HB advertised as an afk bot? I find that the questing part of the bot is exceptionally poor, i'm lucky to get 1/2 level while afk. If i leave HB running by itself for more than 15 minutes i can guarantee i'll come back and find it's logged out. Usually either 1) HB has come up with some kind of weird quest error and the bot has stopped 2) It's got stuck 3) It has used a flying mount over one of the problem areas such as mount hyjal or twilight grove and is just flying in circles 4) In the case of my hunter, HB has stood there for 4 hours trying to summon my dead pet instead of reviving it (I may as well have changed my name to PLEASE REPORT ME)

HB works but only if you're willing to babysit it permanently which kind of defies the point. You can't leave it for more than a few minutes.

Take point 3 for example, these problem areas have been reported for months if not a year. Yet they still exist and affect all areas of honorbuddy, especially archeologybuddy (and no, blacklisting the sites doesn't work because it still flies through these areas to get to other dig sites).

 

[Saear]

You've summed up my 1-90 leveling experience perfectly. Had nothing but problems exactly as you've described.

 

[Keanu]

In my opinion there should be official (from main devs) profiles that get you to level 90. It seems that HB creators want the community to create it's own profiles which is rather strange strategy which I personally do not like. Community profiles will almost always be full of errors. In my opinion creating the bot logic is not enough for a good product.

 

[xXxExpertxXx]

Hi,

The purpose of this post isn't to simply criticize the dev's or anything like that, just ask about the questing bot and bugs in general. Is HB advertised as an afk bot? I find that the questing part of the bot is exceptionally poor, i'm lucky to get 1/2 level while afk. If i leave HB running by itself for more than 15 minutes i can guarantee i'll come back and find it's logged out. Usually either 1) HB has come up with some kind of weird quest error and the bot has stopped 2) It's got stuck 3) It has used a flying mount over one of the problem areas such as mount hyjal or twilight grove and is just flying in circles 4) In the case of my hunter, HB has stood there for 4 hours trying to summon my dead pet instead of reviving it (I may as well have changed my name to PLEASE REPORT ME)

HB works but only if you're willing to babysit it permanently which kind of defies the point. You can't leave it for more than a few minutes.

Take point 3 for example, these problem areas have been reported for months if not a year. Yet they still exist and affect all areas of honorbuddy, especially archeologybuddy (and no, blacklisting the sites doesn't work because it still flies through these areas to get to other dig sites).

same here, Nothing but errors when i return home. So quest botting is not a leveling bot. It is infact a cRashing bot. I can leave the bot on for 12 hours come back and i would of gained MORE xp in 1 hour doing it my self. But i dont quest but anways because of that

 

[Natfoth]

There has been a ton of questbot improvements going on and I am still working on them to get them fully AFK. But just saying it doesn't work doesnt really help me at all. If you have detailed information, ways to reproduce, and a log then I can add it to my list to check while questing.

 

[xXxExpertxXx]

There has been a ton of questbot improvements going on and I am still working on them to get them fully AFK. But just saying it doesn't work doesnt really help me at all. If you have detailed information, ways to reproduce, and a log then I can add it to my list to check while questing.

true that!!.

 

[critmedic]

Hi,HB works but only if you're willing to babysit it permanently which kind of defies the point. You can't leave it for more than a few minutes.

Absolutely! I didn't buy this bot to have it play the game while I sat here watching and making corrections to its errors. Worse than either working or not working, everything is so inconsistent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it takes several restarts to get working. I want the person I gave my money to tell me how to fix it, not refer me to a forum member who created the profile. We aren't asking for a lot, just answers.

Expect this thread to be closed.

 

[Makkli]

In my opinion there should be official (from main devs) profiles that get you to level 90. It seems that HB creators want the community to create it's own profiles which is rather strange strategy which I personally do not like. Community profiles will almost always be full of errors. In my opinion creating the bot logic is not enough for a good product.

IIRC Kick's profiles are considered official. If you don't want to use community contributed profiles...don't.
If you don't the like official product, don't use it.
If you want help with something, follow the rules and post in the right place and post a proper bug report including a log.
If you think you deserve your money back because you thought you were getting a one button push do everything solution, follow the procedure for requesting a refund.

And you might also consider educating yourself on what truly is a profile error and what is an HB limitation or lack of custom behavior. Many really good profile writers still aren't coders.

Personally I'm thrilled that the HB folks have created a tool that allows me and others to create incredible profiles for the things *I* want my toon to do instead of locking me into a box that has me doing exactly what every other botter is doing so we can all look like synchronized questers.

When I go to Home Depot to buy a hammer I don't expect them to build my house.

 

[critmedic]

Dear mod, this problem happens with your bot.

Dear paying customer, take it up with Kick.

 

[Natfoth]

Absolutely! I didn't buy this bot to have it play the game while I sat here watching and making corrections to its errors. Worse than either working or not working, everything is so inconsistent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it takes several restarts to get working. I want the person I gave my money to tell me how to fix it, not refer me to a forum member who created the profile. We aren't asking for a lot, just answers.

Expect this thread to be closed.

Dear mod, this problem happens with your bot.

Dear paying customer, take it up with Kick.

Why would it be closed, Also I already responded to the thread and nowhere did I say take it up with kick. I said I would deal with it.

 

[sketchy]

sometimes with your problem of trying to summon your dead pet instead of reviving, it might be a problem with your CC. are you using the singular or a user submitted CC? My hunter with singular is working ok. Does all the requirements, summoning reviving etc.

 

[critmedic]

Why would it be closed, Also I already responded to the thread and nowhere did I say take it up with kick. I said I would deal with it.

There are countless threads with questions or bug reports. Mods respond by brushing off the question and sending the customer to the profile or CC developer. There are also plenty of threads with legitimate questions followed by Tony giving some useless answer and locking the thread.

I think I understand and agree with what OP is trying to say. A license for your program isn't cheap. Last night I restarted wow and the bot multiple times, made sure everything was up to date, made sure I was following the ritual of delete this, update that, restart this and that in a certain order, stand up, sit down, turn around... I got my dailies started and came back to find my character had accepted the quests but not moved to complete them. This is pretty much normal. So, my botting consists of me starting the bot, getting it actually running, and watching it complete quests or farm much more slowly than I would be able to just do it myself. If I have to babysit the bot, honestly, that makes it useless. We appreciate your work but we want to start the bot and have it run smoothly. We are paying you for this. We gave you our money, you give us the product we expected. I hope none of this sounds harsh or insulting. We are only trying to communicate our expectations.

 

[dayloon]

There has been a ton of questbot improvements going on and I am still working on them to get them fully AFK. But just saying it doesn't work doesnt really help me at all. If you have detailed information, ways to reproduce, and a log then I can add it to my list to check while questing.

I don't mean to sound rude but attaching a log and providing a detailed report is no guarantee of anything. For example, if you search for the twilight grove flying mount issue you'll find lots of reports going back as far as January 2011, that's almost 2 years ago. Yet the problem still exists.

There are tons of reports containing the bugs i and others are experiencing with questing and general bot issues.

 

[Natfoth]

I don't mean to sound rude but attaching a log and providing a detailed report is no guarantee of anything. For example, if you search for the twilight grove flying mount issue you'll find lots of reports going back as far as January 2011, that's almost 2 years ago. Yet the problem still exists.

There are tons of reports containing the bugs i and others are experiencing with questing and general bot issues.

How does the Twilight Grove even relate to the Questbot?

 

[dayloon]

How does the Twilight Grove even relate to the Questbot?

If you look at my main post i raised issues with HB in general, not just the quest bot. In that post the twilight grove issue was an example of why AB is difficult to afk.

It's also a great example of a major problem that has been reported for 2 years and ignored. The issues with HB (including the quest bot) have been reported all over the forum, 99% of people experience them.

The point of this thread was really to highlight the fact that HB is no longer an afk bot. You can't afk for more than a few minutes.

 

[Thang781]

There has been a ton of questbot improvements going on and I am still working on them to get them fully AFK. But just saying it doesn't work doesnt really help me at all. If you have detailed information, ways to reproduce, and a log then I can add it to my list to check while questing.

i really don't mean to be a dick. and i can imagine it is hard to work on a project like hb. but as a customer i have to laugh at this. since i joined hb and using it, the problems are the same. i don't see any improvements on the points the TO is talking about.

everytime the "plz show logs" argument would show up. this is so rediculous. honestly: just take kick's profiles. create a random character and cr and klick on start. level it to 90 and i am sure you will get all(!) the logs by yourself. from serious developers, i expect them to do this at least one time. i bought 40 licenses to test serious multi botting and still waiting for the improvements to use them properly.

 

[Makkli]

A license for your program isn't cheap.

You're joking, right?

We gave you our money, you give us the product we expected.

That's where most of the world runs into trouble. Every one thinks they are entitled to get their expectations fulfilled. It just ain't so. Sometimes you have to manage your expectations. Sometimes they'll get managed for you.

Please understand I empathize with the frustration of having a bunch of things not work but you can't dump every single thing in the devs lap as a universal complaint. I also acknowledge that things aren't as smooth as they once were. Do you know how stuff gets smooth? People submit proper bug reports in proper locations so that the proper person can work on the problem. No one can do shit with "I got my dailies started and came back to find my character had accepted the quests but not moved to complete them. "

And the idea that there's a bunch of threads reporting the same thing....how many of them are actual useful bug reports instead of yet another new thread probably in the wrong place without a log or even a decent description of the problem? A high quantity of crap doesn't actually make it any easier to work with.

The loudest complainers are usually those that never had to do any form of tech support. There's a reason you're asked to post a log (so we know what it really did and not what you think it did). There's a reason you're asked to do fresh installations (so we know rule out as much user error and interference as possible). There's a reason you're referred to the profile author when the problem is with the profile (do I really have to explain that one?)

And why is it that those same complaining people also seem to be the ones with the most problems?

I'm currently leveling my third 85 toon to 90 as I type this. And on breaks from that I am leveling a mid 40s and a mid 70s. All relatively smoothly with Questbot, almost exclusively with Kick's profiles. I'm also developing dailies profiles that are pretty damn effective for being built on such a "broken" bot. So I gotta wonder sometimes how much is really the OMGZ0RZ piece of shit HB and how much is really the user.

There are a lot of moving parts and a lot of variables both on your side and the devs. Help them help you. Stop complaining, make proper and effective bug reports, and follow the damn instructions when they are given. And quit expecting a completely infallible, turn key, one button does all solution delivered on a silver platter for your couch change.

 

[souljaboi225]

Leveling 1-90 questing I had very few problems on my hunter, I only had to correct it a few times in Northrend. And the issue with reviving your pet sounds more like a CC issue than a profiling issue, maybe you should get a better profile.

 

[Thang781]

I'm currently leveling my third 85 toon to 90 as I type this. And on breaks from that I am leveling a mid 40s and a mid 70s. All relatively smoothly with Questbot, almost exclusively with Kick's profiles.

so you leveled a few toons from 85-90. gz on that. i have leveled like 40+ toons from the scratch. i don't really know what you're talking about, but i just can't combine the word "smooth" with the questing bot. this bot is giving me so much headache, i should sue someone for this.

only under one condition your words hold true: you must talk about another bot i don't know. i challenge you to let HB quest a lvl 1 toon and see how long it will take, until stupid things happen. things like the bot just stops and you just don't know why. so just restart the bot and voila he continues(!) questing, without any changes made. or the bot stops while "loading meshes" and never continues, until (you bet it) you restart HB. the best hint you get is: delete HB and install it anew(!). what friggin' software do you know you have to reinstall everytime it stops?

I'm also developing dailies profiles that are pretty damn effective for being built on such a "broken" bot. So I gotta wonder sometimes how much is really the OMGZ0RZ piece of shit HB and how much is really the user.

oh wow. plz share your mop dailie profiles, you we all can see the awsomeness you're claiming. until you show something that is "pretty damn effective" your words mean nothing. from my experience i bet money, that if i start your profiles and go afk, i would come back cursing and shouting and the damn bot like i do every day.

 

[Thang781]

Leveling 1-90 questing I had very few problems on my hunter, I only had to correct it a few times in Northrend. And the issue with reviving your pet sounds more like a CC issue than a profiling issue, maybe you should get a better profile.

this sir, is a lie. simply as that.

and i really would apreciate to know which CC besides singular and tuanha and which profiles beside kick's you are recommending.