Perm Banned EU 5/5 Accounts

[Jassim12]

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? Honorbuddy-> Gatherbuddy
2)If so, when was the last time?: Yesterday during the ban

3)What profile were you using?: Kickazz Profiles

4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname: Singular / FPS druid

5)What plugins are you using?: AutoEquip 2
6)How many hours per day did you bot for?~ 5~12

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? 70%

7)How many auctions per day did you have?: none

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? No

9)Was your account involved in gold selling? No.

10)EU or US realm? EU.

11) Not SoR accounts, It was Paid

I've been botting since glider up to now, i've received 1st ban just yesterday on my pala while doing arena, only botted in it for 4 hours and got caught
then today botted 4 acc's and they got banned together in the 1st hour d'ced and perm banned while using kick profile
i just returned to bot like 1 week ago ? an advice for me to all people you should stop botting now before your account get banned
i tried to appeal but no luck, i think they track you by IP
HB was good while it lasted

 

[Jassim12]

all 4 char got banned in the same sec
it means IP track or HB is detected

 

[theclash150]

all 4 char got banned in the same sec
it means IP track or HB is detected

Honorbuddy is NOT detectable through software means. However, the behaviour that Gatherbuddy exhibits is "detectable" due to the repetitive nature of it. I put detectable in scare quotes because myself and others still have luck using Gatherbuddy as we have been botting following safety precautions.

 

[iamnotme]

Honorbuddy is NOT detectable through software means. However, the behaviour that Gatherbuddy exhibits is "detectable" due to the repetitive nature of it. I put detectable in scare quotes because myself and others still have luck using Gatherbuddy as we have been botting following safety precautions.

I just wanted to let you know of some of these games:
1) Wonderking log onto a ban account, any other account that logs in after get ban instantly also. This means your computer is traced. Therefore, being a million or even billion dollar company, blizzard can create a similar system to flag accounts. they can probably even filter account by hwid (identifies your computer), mac, and ip. After flagging you they can manually ban you.
2) MapleStory inject a hack without a bypass, Nexon knows. They boot you off their server and sometimes even automatically ban you. This means the technology to detect injections and the memory edits done through the injections exist. Maybe in Blizzards case they just flag then manually ban. This does make sense.

Look, I don't really agree with you that blizzard is stupid enough not to be able to detect memory edits or injections, or a simple program. As many other games are able to detect hacking programs.

It is not fucking passive it attaches to the Wow process. It's like a virus.

What we need is a bypass that disables or renders part of the detection system useless.

Now, maybe people are wondering why I am talking about a bypass.... go solve that yourself. =)

 

[theclash150]

I just wanted to let you know of some of these games:
1) Wonderking log onto a ban account, any other account that logs in after get ban instantly also. This means your computer is traced. Therefore, being a million or even billion dollar company, blizzard can create a similar system to flag accounts. they cna probably even filter account by hwid (identifies your computer), mac, and ip. After flagging you they can manually ban you.
2) MapleStory inject a hack without a bypass, Nexon knows. They boot you off their server and sometimes even automatically ban you. This means the technology to detect injections and the memory edits done through the injections exist. Maybe in Blizzards case they just flag then manually ban. This does make sense.

Look, I don't really agree with you that blizzard is stupid enough not to be able to detect memory edits or injections, or a simple program. As many other games are able to detect hacking programs.

It is not fucking passive it attaches to the Wow process. It's like a virus.

What we need is a bypass that disables or renders part of the detection system useless.

First off, you're just plain incorrect. Go under the developer section and read about how injection works and also how framelock works. The beauty of Honorbuddy is that it doesn't inject itself into any of the WoW libraries. It kind of "leeches" onto the WoW client's frames and executes in that fashion. Honorbuddy is undetectable by software means. If Honorbuddy were detected every single person would be banned instantly, it's just common sense.

 

[iamnotme]

First off, you're just plain incorrect. Go under the developer section and read about how injection works and also how framelock works. The beauty of Honorbuddy is that it doesn't inject itself into any of the WoW libraries. It kind of "leeches" onto the WoW client's frames and executes in that fashion. Honorbuddy is undetectable by software means. If Honorbuddy were detected every single person would be banned instantly, it's just common sense.

Keep up the good work.

Makes so much sense that I can kill a monster with chat open if there isn't any memory editing.

I'm done trying to explain myself. have fun with what your trying to accomplish my friend.

1) " If Honorbuddy were detected every single person would be banned instantly, it's just common sense."
a) Blizzard doesn't need to auto ban, they can screw with you and just flag and manually ban. That is what mapelstory did.
First we were like auto bans don't exist, that is a myth..... few days later and up to now, we now know the truth that they do exist. They can choose to enable or disable certain features at their leisure.
b) "Maybe in Blizzards case they just flag then manually ban." Maybe if you read you wouldn't need me to repeat myself. Instead you just responded in pure I'm going to reply and win.....................

2) "Go under the developer section and read about how injection works and also how framelock works."
Any other resources/sources other than text created by HB staff that there is no actual injection/memory editing?
I'm sure you've gone to school and should know you need more than one resource to back yourself up.
Might a fact does a family members statement hold up in court or would a strangers witness account be held more reliable?

Do you really think Blizzard would think how you normally think? Of course....not. They have detection, but that doesn't mean they have to also have insta ban if detected. They could just mark your account

 

[theclash150]

Keep up the good work.

Makes so much sense that I can kill a monster with chat open if there isn't any memory editing.

I'm done trying to explain myself. have fun with what your trying to accomplish my friend.

1) " If Honorbuddy were detected every single person would be banned instantly, it's just common sense."
a) Blizzard doesn't need to auto ban, they can screw with you and just flag and manually ban. That is what mapelstory did.
First we were like auto bans don't exist, that is a myth..... few days later and up to now, we now know the truth that they do exist. They can choose to enable or disable certain features at their leisure.
b) "Maybe in Blizzards case they just flag then manually ban." Maybe if you read you wouldn't need me to repeat myself. Instead you just responded in pure I'm going to reply and win.....................

2) "Go under the developer section and read about how injection works and also how framelock works."
Any other resources/sources other than text created by HB staff that there is no actual injection/memory editing?
I'm sure you've gone to school and should know you need more than one resource to back yourself up.
Might a fact does a family members statement hold up in court or would a strangers witness account be held more reliable?

Do you really think Blizzard would think how you normally think? Of course....not. They have detection, but that doesn't mean they have to also have insta ban if detected. They could just mark your account

Damn dude, I wasn't trying to be hostile. First of all, I'm a UW-Madison computer engineering student, I'm no software guru, but what the hell do you know more than me? Second, your grammar sucks balls. Learn to post with proper grammar, it's not that hard. You tell me I have too few sources when you have referenced ZERO sources. You claim that because you can attack while chat is up that Honorbuddy must edit the memory. Where's your proof behind that? Do you know anything about LUA scripting and it's use with WoW addons? I started botting right when BC was finishing (Glider with PPather, anyone?) and I've seen my fair share of ban waves due to detection. This is NOT one of them!

 

[iamnotme]

Damn dude, I wasn't trying to be hostile. First of all, I'm a UW-Madison computer engineering student, I'm no software guru, but what the hell do you know more than me? Second, your grammar sucks balls. Learn to post with proper grammar, it's not that hard. You tell me I have too few sources when you have referenced ZERO sources. You claim that because you can attack while chat is up that Honorbuddy must edit the memory. Where's your proof behind that? Do you know anything about LUA scripting and it's use with WoW addons? I started botting right when BC was finishing (Glider with PPather, anyone?) and I've seen my fair share of ban waves due to detection. This is NOT one of them!

You have proof? Good for you I am so proud that you can say your edumucated.
Well, sorry I thought someone with more poor edumucation than I are able to many fantastic things. Hell, you want to know something, the former President Bush was a straight C student. Not to mention the President has people who writes for him or if he writes, has several people that proof read it.
Maybe I don't have the privileged, but at least I'm not retard like some people who can't back themselves up.

Hey guys, want to know something. It's true I too am a Computer Engineer. Hell my city has tons of engineers. Sanitation Engineers that pick up the trash every day.

 

[Danamian]

Damn dude, I wasn't trying to be hostile. First of all, I'm a UW-Madison computer engineering student, I'm no software guru, but what the hell do you know more than me? Second, your grammar sucks balls. Learn to post with proper grammar, it's not that hard. You tell me I have too few sources when you have referenced ZERO sources. You claim that because you can attack while chat is up that Honorbuddy must edit the memory. Where's your proof behind that? Do you know anything about LUA scripting and it's use with WoW addons? I started botting right when BC was finishing (Glider with PPather, anyone?) and I've seen my fair share of ban waves due to detection. This is NOT one of them!

Implying your grammar is better, you're just an asshole thats it.

 

[zavis]

Damn dude, I wasn't trying to be hostile. First of all, I'm a UW-Madison computer engineering student, I'm no software guru, but what the hell do you know more than me? Second, your grammar sucks balls. Learn to post with proper grammar, it's not that hard. You tell me I have too few sources when you have referenced ZERO sources. You claim that because you can attack while chat is up that Honorbuddy must edit the memory. Where's your proof behind that? Do you know anything about LUA scripting and it's use with WoW addons? I started botting right when BC was finishing (Glider with PPather, anyone?) and I've seen my fair share of ban waves due to detection. This is NOT one of them!

i believe this guy is right, if there were a ban wave, this would be NOTHING compared to that. i still remember back @ Glider when ban wave happened... what a mess

 

[mrkian]

You are an idiot. You make wild claims and have absolutely no evidence to back up anything you said. We have someone who clearly knows what he is talking about (theclash150) as he is a computer engineering student, and then we have you, a complete ass hat that can do nothing but make a wild correlation to a world leader? Grow up, go read a book, and try to become "edumucated" as you so eloquently stated.

 

[iamnotme]

You are an idiot. You make wild claims and have absolutely no evidence to back up anything you said. We have someone who clearly knows what he is talking about (theclash150) as he is a computer engineering student, and then we have you, a complete ass hat that can do nothing but make a wild correlation to a world leader? Grow up, go read a book, and try to become "edumucated" as you so eloquently stated.

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Let me make this clear, Blizzard is not a robot. It is alive, it can change, and it is changing. Just because in the past they haven't used certain methods doesn't exclude the possibility that they are using them now.
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And you saw his transcript? Being a student doesn't mean you have a degree or are going to be able to get one. As there are variables as to what classes he/she is taking, GPA, etc.

Please do tell me on how you verified his claim that he is a computer engineering student.

Btw, a correlation is not a comparison. It may be similar, but not the same.


Let me guess, your a doctor right? Okay, got it.

Lastly, please tell me where I can find the law where I must use proper grammar to communicate with you? Cause, I don't give a shit.

Maybe if you were Barney or Bob Marley ... just maybe I'd attempt to use formal speech/writing with you online. But, I'd doubt. No seriously, who the fuck are you that you want me to use formal speech/writing?

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Since you want to talk about grammar, let us look at the following sentence:

We have someone who clearly knows what he is talking about (theclash150) as he is a computer engineering student, and then we have you, a complete ass hat that can do nothing but make a wild correlation to a world leader?

Does anyone have any suggestions on fixing this run on sentence?

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Is there something wrong with me saying what i said? After all, it isn't much polite to ridicule someone based on their status. This to me includes educational status.

Look, I still don't care who you are, but like I said where is your proof that your best Friend Dr.Clash is a student in the field you vouch he studies in?

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(theclash150) as he is a computer engineering student <- This is a statement of a fact, assuming you are telling the truth and not lies.
Since you say that as a fact. Please provide evidence to your claim.

 

[adde88]

Jesus christ. I get so sick sometimes reading the ban section of the forum.

Honorbuddy is not detectable by any software means. End of story.
Due to several methods which one can read about in the developer section.

Also, if we were to "render the detection system useless" as "iamnotme" said.
Blizzard would easily detect that, as the Warden reads of several things on your computer, processes and such. Then hashes it and sends it away to Blizzard.
If that system was shut down or modified, several red lights would go off at Blizzards office.

Iamnotme. You should try to listen to what several people here are saying. Like "theclash150".
And educate yourself on how Honorbuddy works before making any wild claims.

Lets stop this silly discussion now, as it's getting out of hand / off-topic. (Evidence to support Computer Engineering education, is off-topic).

 

[iamnotme]

Jesus christ. I get so sick sometimes reading the ban section of the forum.

Honorbuddy is not detectable by any software means. End of story.
Due to several methods which one can read about in the developer section.

Also, if we were to "render the detection system useless" as "iamnotme" said.
Blizzard would easily detect that, as the Warden reads of several things on your computer, processes and such. Then hashes it and sends it away to Blizzard.
If that system was shut down or modified, several red lights would go off at Blizzards office.

Iamnotme. You should try to listen to what several people here are saying. Like "theclash150".
And educate yourself on how Honorbuddy works before making any wild claims.

Lets stop this silly discussion now, as it's getting out of hand / off-topic. (Evidence to support Computer Engineering education, is off-topic).

1) In other games it is possible to bypass the anticheat by emulating your own anticheat. For example in many MapleStory botting/hacking communities there have been thousands of bypasses that area realized that prevent the game server from detecting bots/hacks. Your telling me it's impossible? I have proof, go check out those communities and see what you find.

Blizzard would easily detect that, as the Warden reads of several things on your computer, processes and such. Then hashes it and sends it away to Blizzard.
If that system was shut down or modified, several red lights would go off at Blizzards office.

2) Just do me a favor, because I already tested this and you can test it yourself.
I used two bots same profile, but different bots, one was HB.
Guess what? The other one is still running, the one on HB banned.
It isn't the actions of the character, but that the bot is detected. They don't need to autoban you.

Honorbuddy is not detectable by any software means. End of story.
Due to several methods which one can read about in the developer section.

 

[adde88]

Your telling me it's impossible?

I'm trying to tell you that it's very improbable.
And that Honorbuddy is working just fine, and not being detected by Blizzzard by any software.

If Blizzard were to change anything in Warden that could cause Honorbuddy to be detected. Honorbuddy would shut down immediately.

Just do me a favor, because I already tested this and you can test it yourself.

I've done myself the favour and tested HB since Glider existed, and i have avoided the banhammer for all these years.
Also i have been reading extensively up how HB works, how it avoids detection and how it's being developed.

You can do me the favour and to the same. I think it would benefit not just you, but the whole community. As the need for threads like these would drop.

 

[iamnotme]

I'm trying to tell you that it's very improbable.
And that Honorbuddy is working just fine, and not being detected by Blizzzard by any software.

If Blizzard were to change anything in Warden that could cause Honorbuddy to be detected. Honorbuddy would shut down immediately.



I've done myself the favour and tested HB since Glider existed, and i have avoided the banhammer for all these years.
Also i have been reading extensively up how HB works, how it avoids detection and how it's being developed.

You can do me the favour and to the same. I think it would benefit not just you, but the whole community. As the need for threads like these would drop.

Honorbuddy is not perfect detection for changes in warden. As there was a false tripwire. What if a separate system was created to detect HB? Is HB smart enough to be able to detect that? No it's just software.

Since your so smart, why don't you share with us what your doing that is so different?

So your reading a article made by people who sell or made HB, and you think it's reliable? If everyone was stupid as you I would sell a ebook that said make a million dollars in 2 hours.
I buy Kona Coffee, just because ti says Kona, I don't believe it 100% has only Kona coffee.

 

[buzzerbeater]

(theclash150) as he is a computer engineering student <- This is a statement of a fact, assuming you are telling the truth and not lies.
Since you say that as a fact. Please provide evidence to your claim.

wtf?

He should provide evidence that he is a computer engineering student?
Every claim he made should be obtainable by any other human being with a clear mind.
You can gather any information you need in the open Forums, let is be Buddyforum, OC, BlizzHackers, epvp and any other.

You don't need to be a computer engineering student, especially STUDENT, which says basically NOTHING about the qualification of a person.
His claims are 100% right nonetheless.

 

[iamnotme]

wtf?

He should provide evidence that he is a computer engineering student?
Every claim he made should be obtainable by any other human being with a clear mind.
You can gather any information you need in the open Forums, let is be Buddyforum, OC, BlizzHackers, epvp and any other.

You don't need to be a computer engineering student, especially STUDENT, which says basically NOTHING about the qualification of a person.
His claims are 100% right nonetheless.

While you go and suck up, enjoy. My only intentions were to shed light on things I know is possible. But hey, he has every right to say what hes saying because I was not privileged to get a education like him. Well said. Also, I love how this community hates people who don't have perfect English skills, including you and him.

He mentioned that he was a student at a college to look down on me, I hope you feel proud of yourself. I hope karma hits both of you hard.

 

[buzzerbeater]

While you go and suck up, enjoy. My only intentions were to shed light on things I know is possible. But hey, he has every right to say what hes saying because I was not privileged to get a education like him. Well said. Also, I love how this community hates people who don't have perfect English skills, including you and him.

He mentioned that he was a student at a college to look down on me, I hope you feel proud of yourself.

Wait, what?

Did you just read a different text?
I didn't say anything about your english skills, I did even say that his argument about being a student isn't worth to be mentioned and therefore your claim for evidence is in the same way worthless.

Afterwards I still agreed with him.

You really have an amazing fantasy.

 

[iamnotme]

Wait, what?

Did you just read a different text?
I didn't say anything about your english skills, I did even say that his argument about being a student isn't worth to be mentioned and therefore your claim for evidence is in the same way worthless.

Afterwards I still agreed with him.

You really have an amazing fantasy.

Did I bring up his education status first or did he do that first? If your going to say something take responsibility for it. Use your fucking brain on why he would bring that up after criticizing my grammar skills. Maybe, if you two learned your manners at school, you wouldn't be on these forums looking for attention. I really don'r see the purpose of telling someone that their point of view is wrong without real evidence. What I do see is you guys are real jerks.

Anything I said wrong so far in this reply?
So if Sony says PS3 is the best console in the world, would you believe them if that is what it say in text in their manual? Of course not, you would do your research else where.

Why don't you link me to your outside reliable resource/information? You can't, because you have none!

All I heard from him and you is that you read text created by the sellers of Honor Buddy. Am I missing something?