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i had a new EULA pop up today stating it had changed and it was stating changes to do with 3rd party programs , monitoring your computers memory etc , are these scare tactics or does someone have any insight into the recent changes
 
Yea i just read it aswell, I guess the Developers of HB will be altering it to avoid this hopefully.
 
Got a Link? because I never got it and im using a 3rd party program right now :)
 
can they do that but , ive spent lots of $$ on expansions , the original gaming totaling over 200$, plus endless hours playing the game , will blizzard reimburse me if i dont agree to let them monitor my pc
 
It has always been there the program is called WARDEN It scans your RAM but only if your flagged (i think)

It's probably that Blizz lawsuit and now they have to say that they will be scanning RAM.

Not to worry WoW only writes to RAM if it is minimized ^_^
 
Why people start to scream and make dramas every time Blizz update their ToS and EULA. They have been updated lots of times already, each time with new content, and the same "3rd party programs , monitoring your computers memory etc" topics are alway present there since 5+ years.
You should realize finally, that ToS and EULA are nothing in therms of laws. You are not even aware of them to accept them, when you pay for the boxed WoW in the shop. No need to mention, they are not translated on some european languages, when selling here.
Blizz have no legal rights, neither they will break your privacy!
 
Its not that im starting to scream,its just nice to let people know whats going on in terms of blizzard , the new EULA says they can pretty much suspend , ban or even delete your account for no reason what so ever,ive never seen them on previous EULAs unless ive overlooked that section
 
This was always in the EULA and it's nothing to worry about.
 
i dont even read the eula its so long and + i dont care about what wow says we are botters
 
imtakinusrs said:
Why people start to scream and make dramas every time Blizz update their ToS and EULA. They have been updated lots of times already, each time with new content, and the same "3rd party programs , monitoring your computers memory etc" topics are alway present there since 5+ years.
You should realize finally, that ToS and EULA are nothing in therms of laws. You are not even aware of them to accept them, when you pay for the boxed WoW in the shop. No need to mention, they are not translated on some european languages, when selling here.
Blizz have no legal rights, neither they will break your privacy!
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you make me lol.

seriously, are you so clueless, its theyre game, they make the rules.

And they have a legal stand when it comes to breaking theyre terms.

gtfo man with shit like this.

And fot the OT: scanning memory and processes, even outside the "wow range" was always possible.

I even linked pieces of of theyre anti - cheat agreement, and still people are to thick headed to see that they can do it.

You agree to theyre fucking terms, so if it says inthere, they can monitor the kind of porn your watching, they are allowed to!

If you dont agree in them doing so, you dont accept the agreement, therefor not play the game !

Start the bitching allr, since you all think, they cant do this. Well, 1+1=2 not 3, and yes. You are Wrong!
 
webhond said:
you make me lol.

seriously, are you so clueless, its theyre game, they make the rules.

And they have a legal stand when it comes to breaking theyre terms.

gtfo man with shit like this.

And fot the OT: scanning memory and processes, even outside the "wow range" was always possible.

I even linked pieces of of theyre anti - cheat agreement, and still people are to thick headed to see that they can do it.

You agree to theyre fucking terms, so if it says inthere, they can monitor the kind of porn your watching, they are allowed to!

If you dont agree in them doing so, you dont accept the agreement, therefor not play the game !

Start the bitching allr, since you all think, they cant do this. Well, 1+1=2 not 3, and yes. You are Wrong!
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Before talking yourself up, and trying to utilize grammar, first learn english
 
webhond said:
You agree to theyre fucking terms, so if it says inthere, they can monitor the kind of porn your watching, they are allowed to!
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Absolutely WRONG, if it stood in their therms that u have to kill someone ... this would make the kill legal? i don't think so ;)
Same with your example of monitoring the kind of porn i'm watching, it doesn't interests me, but they aren't allowed ;)
 
webhond said:
you make me lol.

seriously, are you so clueless, its theyre game, they make the rules.

And they have a legal stand when it comes to breaking theyre terms.

gtfo man with shit like this.

And fot the OT: scanning memory and processes, even outside the "wow range" was always possible.

I even linked pieces of of theyre anti - cheat agreement, and still people are to thick headed to see that they can do it.

You agree to theyre fucking terms, so if it says inthere, they can monitor the kind of porn your watching, they are allowed to!

If you dont agree in them doing so, you dont accept the agreement, therefor not play the game !

Start the bitching allr, since you all think, they cant do this. Well, 1+1=2 not 3, and yes. You are Wrong!
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Than explain why Blizzard, Sony and other firms always lost in court if it would be legal?
 
Apoc said:
Ok, so, I'm honestly getting a bit tired of replying to threads like these. (Please, go search for other warden related posts by me, MaiN, Nesox, Hawker, or any other developer here...)

Warden will not reach out of it's own process any more. (Scan.dll does this in WoW to catch stuff like CheatEngine, etc. Nothing too fancy, nor worth worrying about) They can't read our window titles, as we're not "in" the game process. (See: warden doesn't leave the game proc)

Warden does do module hash scans. Yes. But only for modules loaded in the game. We don't load any in the game, so those scans are completely pointless to us.

Warden does driver hash scans as well. Nope, we don't touch kernel level stuff (drivers). So again, scans are completely pointless.

Warden does not check the current process list for any scanning. (They check it, but don't do anything "detection" related with it. It's just a requirement to do some other scans.)


So, to shut down all 4 of your suggestions:


Warden doesn't do anything with the process list. So this isn't necessary. (We do have full support for renaming the exe, and our built-in updater will even rename updates to whatever you named your exe to) Feel free to rename. (This changes the process name as well btw)


... we do. For the exception of some that we can't (due to .NET restrictions on managed/native code) We leave other libs out as they can be updated without us needing to push a full update. Plus, they are all widely-used libraries, so there's no harm in leaving them by themselves.


The windows registry is the devil! (It's being used less and less, and according to MS, will be removed in an OS in the not-too-far future.)


...what? I assume you mean modify the exe so that the checksum changes and can't be detected by warden's scans? If so; see my statements about warden not leaving the game's process.[/COLOR]
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Could you please stop spreading this nonsense webhond?
 
there not allowed to scan anything, even something as simple as ram, that would break the privacy act, there not allowed to do that, well they could but they would be breaking the law.
 
"Consent to Monitor.

WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 2. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, THE GAME MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER."
 
webhond said:
you make me lol.

seriously, are you so clueless, its theyre game, they make the rules.

And they have a legal stand when it comes to breaking theyre terms.

gtfo man with shit like this.

And fot the OT: scanning memory and processes, even outside the "wow range" was always possible.

I even linked pieces of of theyre anti - cheat agreement, and still people are to thick headed to see that they can do it.

You agree to theyre fucking terms, so if it says inthere, they can monitor the kind of porn your watching, they are allowed to!

If you dont agree in them doing so, you dont accept the agreement, therefor not play the game !

Start the bitching allr, since you all think, they cant do this. Well, 1+1=2 not 3, and yes. You are Wrong!
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When I see people posting comments about stuff that they know nothing about I have to take some action.
Now listen up everyone: Blizzard, like every other company, has some rules. These rules are "the rules" inside the game. But when you go outside their program it is worth NOTHING. If Blizzard acces your pc without your blessing they brake the LAW.
 
Vojtaov said:
And that's why Origin, Steam and other online services scans your computer.
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They just can do it within the laws. That's why it can be blocked very easily. Try Google and you find many programs. They can just scan their own thing nothing else, like Warden.
 
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