Need help with laptop buying.

[saven]

Ok, so I have a decent laptop but it will run wow and high settings but get very very hot. I would say around 70-80c. The gpu tempt I haven't tested but I can safely assume at full settings on a laptop it will be well above 50c. Maybe even 60c+. With these temps in mind and the drop in fps which makes wow almost unbearable I was thinking of just getting a nice ass gaming laptop from alienware. The top brand. I think its called the mx18. 1,899$ + w/e tax and shipping. Now what really excites me about this puppy is the amount of ram and video card power along with the processor and to top all THAT off...liquid cooling. Quite is gewd. SO here is the specs for the one I want.

ALienware laptop - mx18 specs for basic

• 3rd Gen Intel® Core? i7 processors
• Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
• Up to 32GB * 1600MHz memory performance boost
• New Triple HDD options with boot, caching, SSD and RAID drives
• Optional dual 2GB NVidia GTX 675Ms
• Stunning 18.4" Full HD 1920x1080 WLED LCD display (standard)
  • 3rd Generation Intel® Core? i7-3630QM (6MB Cache, up to 3.4GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
  • Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
  • 18.4 inch (467.36 mm) WLED WideFHD (1080p) display (1920 X 1080)
  • 6GB[SUP]2[/SUP] DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
  • 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s
  • 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660M
  • 1 Year Essential Support
  • 11.93 lbs
    
    This one I just copy and pasted from the website. THats for the basic laptop from alienware. TO have a premium would look like this (see below).
    • 3rd Generation Intel® Core? i7-3740QM (6MB Cache, up to 3.7GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
    • Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
    • 18.4 inch (467.36 mm) WLED WideFHD (1080p) display (1920 X 1080)
    • 16GB[SUP]2[/SUP] Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
    • 1TB RAID 0 (2x 500GB SATA 3B/s 7,200 RPM) + 32GB mSATA Caching SSD
    • Dual 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M - SLI® Enabled
    • 1 Year Essential Support
    • 11.93 lbs
      
      Running cost for the one above..... [SUP]$[/SUP]3499[SUP]00[/SUP] . Wow....got a major credit card or something for that bill? lol
      
      
      
      
      SO.. as you can see with all the details and if your more concerned or helpful to be looking at youtube vids of these laptops then what would be the recommendation from your own opinion and sage knowledge on gaming laptops? Should I look elsewhere or do I try to go for the big fish? To honest about something else you may mention, I will not buy from craigs and all the others. MY own reasons are enough stay away from there. I rather have something under my name and trust worthy seller.

 

[Vanhorne86]

DO NOT BOT ON A LAPTOP!

Buy a desktop to do it with laptops overheat regardless and it is a neverending battle to keep it cool.

A desktop will always last much much longer, be more powerful and therefore run more bots not to mention half the price you mentioned.

 

[GGarcia]

I travel a lot and I'm not always around my desktop for a long periods of times (6 months to a year). In those situations I'm always botting on my laptop and I never, ever got an over heating issue that stops me from continuing. I also use a standard Toshiba cooling pad to help control temps. There is nothing wrong with using a laptop and I have no idea why the above commenter would even say something like that.

I would also advise not buying from Alienware, I build desktops and help others build and make them as well. When my guys come to me asking them to over look their alienware custom build I laugh at them and help them build a much better desktop for around the same price and if not cheaper. Now I cant say much about their laptops but if its the same quality as the components they use in their desktops but I wouldnt risk it. I would also say that you can find a good laptop for around $1000 that would be able to play at high settings depending on the screen size (gonna be a lot hard to find a 17.3" for around 1k). Look at Sager laptops and also go to Tom's Hardware forums to get more help and knowledge on finding great deals for gaming computers

 

[Teveel]

Several great laptops around these days for gaming, which of course means they can be easily bot on.
I use one all the time even though I got desktops in the house too for botting.

 

[saven]

Thanks for the good feedback everyone! My friend got a alienware laptop and he says it stays cool on his lap. It DOES have water cooling which is new for me.

 

[Vanhorne86]

I travel a lot and I'm not always around my desktop for a long periods of times (6 months to a year). In those situations I'm always botting on my laptop and I never, ever got an over heating issue that stops me from continuing. I also use a standard Toshiba cooling pad to help control temps. There is nothing wrong with using a laptop and I have no idea why the above commenter would even say something like that.

I would also advise not buying from Alienware, I build desktops and help others build and make them as well. When my guys come to me asking them to over look their alienware custom build I laugh at them and help them build a much better desktop for around the same price and if not cheaper. Now I cant say much about their laptops but if its the same quality as the components they use in their desktops but I wouldnt risk it. I would also say that you can find a good laptop for around $1000 that would be able to play at high settings depending on the screen size (gonna be a lot hard to find a 17.3" for around 1k). Look at Sager laptops and also go to Tom's Hardware forums to get more help and knowledge on finding great deals for gaming computers

what i said is a well known fact for most people.

 

[Dark57]

Alienware will allow you to push your laptop gaming a little bit further than other brands only because it's price has to be justified by it's reputation. Water cooling is not available in laptops from basically anyone else except for Alienware.

You are paying top dollar for the top equipment on the market for mobile computing, you could achieve similar results (slightly reduced) with cheaper hardware as the top of the line equipment gets exponentially more expensive as you get near the top.

This laptop will serve you well, however you will have to deal with Dell customer support if anyone goes wrong with it as Alienware is owned by Dell.

Fun Fact: While I was in Afghanistan, I was attempting to draft a liquid cooling system for a laptop but scratched the idea when I couldn't solve a condensation issue on the reservoir. I only destroyed one laptop in the pursuit of this dream. My other issue was the fact I was going to have to produce radiators small enough to fit in a laptop.

 

[Dark57]

what i said is a well known fact for most people.

No it is not, there are a great many deal of laptops that have more than sufficient cooling for you to toss it (while running) in to your back pack and then go walk around in the sun for a while. This alienware will indeed be one of them with a liquid cooling solution being one of the few solutions to laptop power restrictions. They over heat often if they use air cooling and pump up the voltage on the CPU and GPU to get better GHz ratings with a poor design, but even then a laptop can still run at over 100c because of the melting point of the materials used in construction. The issue of heat is not so much the safety of the hardware from melting (As silicon has a melting temp of ~1600c) as it does from the electrons in the system from behaving sporadically due to an increase in energy being applied. This will allow them to jump to places they aren't supposed to which is why you see performance loss and corruption when the computer is running hot.

In fact I am impressed if they actually were able to clock the processor at 4.4 GHz in a laptop. This could be one of the very first steps in the removal of Desktops from production, just as email replaced snail mail, instant messaging replaced email (as a primary conversation source, not for more official uses), and how texting replaced the verbal conversation.