My small opinion on the ban

[xia0m0on]

I see alot of post saying DB is detected, so whats is your point? Are you guys meaning other bots is not detected?

If thats the point, then maybe you should think the amount of botter in D3 is using DB.

Well as far as i know, DB is the most well known and widely used by alot of botters. So in that case within 10 botters, let say 5-6 person is using DB and other 4-5 is furher divided into smaller bot prog user.

Let say today Blizz decide to ban 1,000 bot or 10,000 then use your simple math knowledge and you could figure out why DB user got hit the hardest.

Its my just MY OPINION. Thank you.

 

[alysonphobus]

fact that there is something wrong. had more than 60 accounts terminated in less than 30 days, some up to 2 days of use, further leveling. I've seen other reports of forum accounts banned until two days. I changed the ips, formatted the pcs, used firewall, hosts and virtual machines. But nothing worked. I do not know what's wrong, but it seems that it is easier to detect the db. Before this wave of bans of December, I had bans rare, very rare even. Until this problem concertation, every day we will have several reports of bans here in the forum, and this is unquestionable.

 

[hilft]

the fact that blizzard gives me only 1 reason for banning my account, which was botting, tells me DB , or at least a botting program is detected?
i used to get 5 reasons, like hacking,abuse,botting,etc for permanent bans, but recently it's no longer like that.

 

[magett]

99% of the banned accs run 24/7 simple behavior ban

 

[legzor]

I just have a big question, the guys that have many account banned. Do you use a free profile, or a private one?

 

[ezpwnd]

99% of the banned accs run 24/7 simple behavior ban

People reporting to be banned within 2 days. I was banned with 5 hours of using DB on one of my mains - tell me about this simple behavior ban please.

 

[Tony]

what i can see on reports is 24/7

 

[fckwarden]

i see people running bots for few hours and getting banned... HOW IS THAT 24/7 ???

 

[Tony]

i see people running bots for few hours and getting banned... HOW IS THAT 24/7 ???

well i suppose you can read the reports

 

[Ahtralabah]

doesnt matter how many hours you bot, you can be 18hrs in menu and playing 6hrs. they are not tracking your online time. my friend had about 3500hrs played on banned account on 18/12 and he was botting 24/7 more than 4 months (i had 1100hrs and same number of months, we started together). its only about luck and what you do wrong that makes you to be flagged. If you read all threads you will see ppl that botted 24/7, 10/7 or even less and still banned.

 

[arielmz]

I really think its the profile faults... people running private ones since day 1 and still untouched for 24/7... (I just were banned on 18/12 and was when I tried public profiles... maybe just a coincidence)

Mostly people banned were using skyhigh or alkaizer(yesterday)... I were using alkaizer as base myself but I had to edit it on at last twice every map and add some extra gotos also some extra maps(those maps goes actually random, some games they go some don't) that I think is worth for item farming... I can't watch my bot crashing it get me nervous...
(Took less then an hour to get a strong and stable version)

Keep in mind using different profiles wont help if any of then still crashes...

Blizzard keeps logs every time u start a game or leave it as also any waypoint used in game. (Not sure about teleport).
Those go to their server as u play unless u block the game itself...
But it's a way to really know if someone is bottling and easy in my op to distinguish from normal players ...
They don't keep track of items for ban. (At china they just made it account bind since the "fakes" hacked) and none of acc with the hacked items got banned on china far as I know(Same stupid dupe method used in USA for items on 250u$ range).
The item log would consume just too much of a server traffic /data bank and would make the d3 not viable w/o a monthly fee.
It's also know they only keep some old templates for rollback (usually they update on maintenance).

Feel free to take your conclusions and mock me.

 

[ezpwnd]

I really think its the profile faults... people running private ones since day 1 and still untouched for 24/7... (I just were banned on 18/12 and was when I tried public profiles... maybe just a coincidence)

That's simply not true - not even close to the truth.

There was this guy who highly customized his private profiles, he would have 5+ different profiles for every area he would visit that would be loaded randomly. He was around here in december and showed some of the all the folders he had containing those profiles, he must've spend ALOT of time on costumizing/writing all of that.

That said he was banned like everybody else.

 

[arielmz]

That's simply not true - not even close to the truth.

There was this guy who highly customized his private profiles, he would have 5+ different profiles for every area he would visit that would be loaded randomly. He was around here in december and showed some of the all the folders he had containing those profiles, he must've spend ALOT of time on costumizing/writing all of that.

That said he was banned like everybody else.

And that make 1 private(heard of most 10 people banned on private profiles) vs 1000+ public bans... good point sir!
Also 18/12 mostly bots not only DB were banned... and they were all doing the same profile at the time (bigred act3) or adapt versions of it to other bots.
Less then 5-10% of the banned ones were using diff stuff. As mostly gold farmers survived the 18/12 banwave.

 

[microtrol]

To sum the user reports :

Ban occured on:

1. 24/7
2. 10/7
3. sporadically usage of 3-4 hours on 2-4 days a week
4. public profiles
5. highly customized private profiles
6. one time users
7. users that used the bot only for one day and got banned 4 month later on (not really sure if that is an authentic info)
8. users that renamed the buddy exe with a hex editor
9. people using other public available bots

That leaves only one conclusion to me (only me personally):
The memory is beeing scanned for demonbuddy hashes and/or injection into the d3.exe
not a programmer (not a well trained one at least) but this is common sense to me

 

[wulfen]

i just have to ask...

why does everyone believe that if bliz could detect DB that their next action would be to ban EVERY account instantly?

it makes much greater sense for bliz to not do such a thing.
we think it is still undetectable:
1 we buy more keys
2 we regear bots
3 we continue to drive the RMAH
and they can continue banning smaller groups so people think that DB cant be detected and they cycle repeats

now if they were to ban every bot user instantly like everyone expects if there is a software detection
what happens?
who goes out to buy a new key? knowing that they will get banned instantly?
who gears out bots?
who fills the RMAH with items so bliz can take their cut?

NO ONE! we stop until DB figures out how they are detected before starting up again... and blizzard has lost their ability to detect it. which means they get to also start all over trying to catch botters

so it would seem that expecting a huge sweeping ban wave of every botter is ignorant. and the small and steady wave of bans is what we should expect for software detection

 

[ezpwnd]

And that make 1 private(heard of most 10 people banned on private profiles) vs 1000+ public bans... good point sir! ;

yet it proves that you will get banned with a private profile as well

also that's because the ratio of private/public users is probably 1:1000+

...good point sir!

 

[microtrol]

i just have to ask...

why does everyone believe that if bliz could detect DB that their next action would be to ban EVERY account instantly?

it makes much greater sense for bliz to not do such a thing.
we think it is still undetectable:
1 we buy more keys
2 we regear bots
3 we continue to drive the RMAH
and they can continue banning smaller groups so people think that DB cant be detected and they cycle repeats

now if they were to ban every bot user instantly like everyone expects if there is a software detection
what happens?
who goes out to buy a new key? knowing that they will get banned instantly?
who gears out bots?
who fills the RMAH with items so bliz can take their cut?

NO ONE! we stop until DB figures out how they are detected before starting up again... and blizzard has lost their ability to detect it. which means they get to also start all over trying to catch botters

so it would seem that expecting a huge sweeping ban wave of every botter is ignorant. and the small and steady wave of bans is what we should expect for software detection

I think that is not the point. There is a german saying : You don't kill the cow that gives milk

To ban every account instantly is obviously a bad business model

 

[wulfen]

actually i think i have made a statement that proves it is a good business model...

if we think it us undetectable we spend our money to buy keys and sell items on the RMAH... that puts extra money in blizzards pockets and when we get banned we say cost of doing business and start over...

if we think it is detectable we DONT buy more keys, we DONT fill the RMAH so blizzard loses money. until DB gets fixed...

try and think about how they would want to control the in game economy which they make a lot of money from... if they banned every account the economy that has developed from the use of bots would go insane with super inflation that no one could keep up with