Multiple Instances of WOW/Honorbuddy Questions

[swgplaya09]

Hey,

I was not sure where to post this, so if there is a better section for it to be in mods, please move it there.

I current run 3 Bots at a time, all on separate Virtual Machines with different IP's. I feel like I could be running more on the system I put together just for my bots.

Here is my Host computers specs
Win 7 64bit
Intel Core I3-2100 CPU 3.10GHZ 2core 4 processors
16GB Ram
2 TB HDD
Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 TI, DXDiag says it has 4043mb memory.

With that being said, I am using VMware 12, to run 3 separate Windows 7 32bit SP1, with 4gb RAM, 1core, 2 processor, and 512mb video memory. Each of these are running WOW and Honorbuddy. I have them on the Lowest settings for graphics, and about 15fps

My problem is, I am at almost 100% use on my processor and ram according to my Resource manager on the host pc.

I feel like I could be running a lot more then just 3 bots on this PC, can anyone give me any hits or tips on what im doing wrong? I would like to be able to run 4-6 bots at a time.

I am not very tech savvy compared to some people on this forum, so use simple terms

Thanks for your help.

 

[filter412]

Not sure why your using VMWare, I simply open 3 copies of WOW and 3 honorbuddy instances in a single instance (non-VMware).

Never had any issues even with medium graphics.

 

[Jiniix]

You should be able to run up to 10 bots without VMs. VMs are a huge performance hit, as you are running effectively 4x Windows on a clever dual core.

 

[Macatho]

You should be able to run up to 10 bots without VMs. VMs are a huge performance hit, as you are running effectively 4x Windows on a clever dual core.

10 bots on a i3 2100? hmm no.

 

[Jiniix]

Learn to reduce WoW usage then. Ran five without issues on a Q6600 not overclocked. Admittedly, I read it as a i3-6100, but with enough tweaking you can achieve 15 FPS on 10x WoW+HB with that setup (without VMs).

 

[swgplaya09]

Not sure why your using VMWare, I simply open 3 copies of WOW and 3 honorbuddy instances in a single instance (non-VMware).

Never had any issues even with medium graphics.

Running VMware allows you to have different IP address on every bot, so the likelihood of all of your bots getting the ban hammer at the same time is greatly reduced. If a GM looks into one of your accounts, and see's 2 others doing the same thing on the same IP, he will most likely Ban all 3.

 

[Jiniix]

If you're botting smart, I'd argue it looks less suspicious to have multiple on one IP, compared to being on a VPN - which Blizzard can detect with ease unless you have a really good (paid or custom) one.
If Blizzard collects information about your system, CPU, chipset, RAM, GPU etc, which I think they would do regardless for improving the client, it's also very easy to detect and flag a VM for inspection.
It either works for you or it doesn't, I've tried VMs, VMs with VPNs and no VM but separate WoW folders, and for me there was no difference, except no VM being far easier to manage.

 

[swgplaya09]

If you're botting smart, I'd argue it looks less suspicious to have multiple on one IP, compared to being on a VPN - which Blizzard can detect with ease unless you have a really good (paid or custom) one.
If Blizzard collects information about your system, CPU, chipset, RAM, GPU etc, which I think they would do regardless for improving the client, it's also very easy to detect and flag a VM for inspection.
It either works for you or it doesn't, I've tried VMs, VMs with VPNs and no VM but separate WoW folders, and for me there was no difference, except no VM being far easier to manage.

I pay for a pretty decent VPN I believe.

How would I go about lowering the resources my VM's are using? Without not using them? I feel like I am giving them too much resources as it is. Is 1core 2process per vm too much? 4gb ram too much? are there programs that can reduce cpu usage?

 

[Jiniix]

When I used a VM, I had 2 cores, 3GB RAM and 256MB VRAM. Windows 7 32-bit configured to use as little resources as possible, WoW at 800x600 with "/console setrenderscale 0.1" and nothing else really.
I know there's a tool that significantly reduces resources usage, never felt the need for it. Don't know what it's called, or if it's compatible with Legion.

 

[rev2k]

I pay for a pretty decent VPN I believe.

How would I go about lowering the resources my VM's are using? Without not using them? I feel like I am giving them too much resources as it is. Is 1core 2process per vm too much? 4gb ram too much? are there programs that can reduce cpu usage?

You can't really lower the resources a VM uses. VMware uses what it needs when it needs it, if you give it 2GB memory in it's settings, it will use say 700MB for its OS, on your PC it will reflect on 700MB used in it's process, when you run something, it's going to suck memory from the host to use in the VM, thats how it works.

Running VM's on a puny core i3, i'm sorry to say, won't ever run 10 at a time.

 

[swgplaya09]

You can't really lower the resources a VM uses. VMware uses what it needs when it needs it, if you give it 2GB memory in it's settings, it will use say 700MB for its OS, on your PC it will reflect on 700MB used in it's process, when you run something, it's going to suck memory from the host to use in the VM, thats how it works.

Running VM's on a puny core i3, i'm sorry to say, won't ever run 10 at a time.

I never had a desire to run 10 at a time, someone mentioned that for some reason. I lower my Windows 7 settings, and lowered my cput allowed amount, and ram, and i have 5 running pretty smooth now.

 

[rev2k]

Grats.

I have run 5 before with HB running all, they used to be able to do WoD heroics together it was awesome

 

[Aces]

When I used a VM, I had 2 cores, 3GB RAM and 256MB VRAM. Windows 7 32-bit configured to use as little resources as possible, WoW at 800x600 with "/console setrenderscale 0.1" and nothing else really.
I know there's a tool that significantly reduces resources usage, never felt the need for it. Don't know what it's called, or if it's compatible with Legion.

can tell about this tool I have an old cpu somewere that I could use it