Mana card - bot wastes it

[WhereIsMyMind]

I see the bot, on the first round with a mana card, it will play a 1 mana cost card, and then play the +1 mana card but there are no other 1 mana cards to play. So the +1 mana card is wasted.

Perhaps have the mana card played 1st before further card selection. yes.. it could be that you then have 2 mana but no 1 or 2 mana cost cards but.. it is a better than the first error condition and less likely.

WIMM

 

[kelu]

I agree, it seems that solution like this isn't very hard to implement and it would make the chance of wasting the coin much lower. (if no monsters in hand the bot would use hero power at turn 1 at least)

 

[rivus]

Agreed. Just a "what can we cast" check (taking into count the extra mana)

 

[kelu]

Well rivus, checking what it can or cannot play is some more advanced logic and from what I read they are working on it for each separate card. What we propose here is a simple solution to always use coin as a first card on first turn if you are going second. It's not really that much of a modification in my opinion and it would make us waste our coin much less.

 

[AutomaticCoding]

Agreed. Just a "what can we cast" check (taking into count the extra mana)

But make sure you weight using "The Coin", so, it's less preferable unless there's a really good move to be made (I.E. Fatal, good spell combo, getting an OP card out a turn early, etc...)

 

[kelu]

Really, you want to weigh it on turn one? Do you get combos to kill opp on turn one?

 

[rivus]

Nope, I meant nothing advanced. I was actually talking about adding a "check if we can do something with the coin" to the same basic logic that puts down the cards. The bot already seems to try to deploy the most expensive card in hand.

 

[AutomaticCoding]

Really, you want to weigh it on turn one? Do you get combos to kill opp on turn one?

Yes, even on turn one. If I can play a two mana card such as "Sap", then, no, I don't want to waste "The Coin", but, if it's something like Nat Pagle, then, I would like to use The Coin to utilize card draw, then, I'd also like to place a taunt next turn.

 

[kelu]

Yes, even on turn one. If I can play a two mana card such as "Sap", then, no, I don't want to waste "The Coin", but, if it's something like Nat Pagle, then, I would like to use The Coin to utilize card draw, then, I'd also like to place a taunt next turn.

Dude, you are talking about advanced conditions. I'm sure they will implement that later, but imo first priority for them should be stability, simplicity and open API. Later they can focus on advanced AI and custom rules.

What I propose is a solution very simple to implement. Obviously it's not perfect but much better that the situation where we waste in most of the games the coin. What you are talking about is a more complicated solution and I belive they won't focus on that right now, you cannot count on that.

 

[jotd]

imho coin turn 1 to push out a 2 mana minion.

 

[kelu]

imho coin turn 1 to push out a 2 mana minion.

Yea jotd, its about that, to use coin before anything else (we could put Innervate to be treated like a coin too).