Luck or What the F*CK!?

[m86]

Hey, I'm still fairly new to botting but have been doing it a LOT since starting. Mainly what I'm using now is pure rotation ( on my actual main account ) " How safe is that by the way? I know there's always a risk but hadn't seen much about it causing bans...


But okay to my real "point"/"question" I purchased 2 brand new accounts about 3 1/2 months ago when I started botting. I got a character to 90 using kicks and bg buddy, once I hit 90 I started gathering, a cosmic shit ton and selling all of it like a dumbass pretty much as soon as I got it hah needless to say that account got banned super fucking fast and lost about 50k gold and 6 bank tabs of herbs lol I know why that account got banned no question all the gathering and posting probably close to 200-500 auctions a day... But!!!!

Before it was banned I purchased the 2nd account to RaF it with, didn't get very far maybe to lvl 40 or so then the "farming/ah" account was perma banned. I haven't been using GB2 at all since that happened on the account thats still active, but I'm not even kidding when I say this, I have been using kicks for....."gonna /played real quick" okay, pretty much been using kicks on a fresh toon for about equivalent to 4-5 days straight. The toons in pandaria atm but I haven't spoke to anyone in the guild I got in or ever done anything BUT quest and have been for 2 days straight right now. I see all these posts about playing to long and inhuman so just decided to say "fuck it " and see what happens.

I also have been monitoring this toon maybe 40%? probably less, I let this damn thing run while I sleep and go do shit in town or whatever. Why is it not banned? I mean... that can't be luck can it? This very account was RaF'ed to my perma banned farmer account that got shut down within like 2 weeks of buying it. I don't know just thought would be worth mentioning just to see what any of you may think, personally as I said I'm still fairly new to botting but I read on here a lot and bot a shit ton, honestly woulda thought this shit woulda been banned by wrath content I woke up one of the past few days and the toon had probably died over 100 times there was just this huge as fucking "L" shape made out of skeletons obviously mine, especially when the toon was still online and dying because it couldn't figure out how to face the mob attacking it lol Who KNOWSSSSSS how many HOURS that damn bot died like that over and over.

But okay, holy shit. Yep, I typed WAY more then I thought I would sorry about that. Just gimmie your thoughts on this (( and yes I know this is a dumb way to bot )) I'm curious why it hasn't been banned yet after running for over 2 days straight now and getting stuck a wholeeee lot without me fixing it, I've purposely let it kill itself all it wants.. Thanks though if anyone replies about the questing bot and or how safe Pure rotation CC bot is for raiding on my main account!
-M86-

 

[m86]

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[xio8up]

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[Verbi]

I recently finished gearing my rogue in Battlegrounds with BGBOT for 2+ days non stop and i'm now leveling a druid on the same account and thats been going NON STOP (apart from when im playing my main for abit) since friday night and its still going at the moment (level 47 with no heirlooms, only guild bonus) in grind mode.

 

[Kronz]

Questbot is much harder to target and detect than Gatherbuddy. Blizzard have set a questing path for you, with objectives to complete, places to go and mobs to kill.


Consider the abundance of questing addons and guides, which also guide you around the place with a big green arrow on your screen, and it's much harder to distinguish between a bot and a human following the advice of an addon, or simply taking the shortest possible route between quest objectives.

Much harder to detect compared to Gatherbuddy.

 

[xio8up]

yep don't touch gatherbuddy it needs to be re written or. We need something new.

 

[m86]

Yeah agreed, but the fact that i've been running this toon for the past 8 days with maybe 4 hours offline out of all of them is what makes me confused since I see posts about people being banned using the quest profile before they hit level 20

 

[jlindstedt]

You can always get lucky but most likely blizzard has just not caught up with you yet. The recent bans that we are seeing are script based which are a lot faster then if you were reported when questing. Questing is more human like and harder to detect because of that. Your account could be on the next list to be investigated and put in next weeks mini ban wave.

Even though it might seem like many people are being banned quite frequently lately there are plenty of HB users unaffected from the recent banning due to gb. Many users of HB have not experienced what a full scale ban wave would create. Over the years I have been involved or witnessed many banwaves be it with glider, pirox, gb and others where the forums crash due to the spike in users trying to access the forums. When these banwaves occured blizzard had detected the bot weeks earlier and collected as many botters as possible to create a panic on the forums.

Just because you are not banned now it does not mean you wont be in the near future.

 

[Kronz]

Yeah agreed, but the fact that i've been running this toon for the past 8 days with maybe 4 hours offline out of all of them is what makes me confused since I see posts about people being banned using the quest profile before they hit level 20

Most of them have probably engaged in a dangerous activity before that, like gathering. Since Blizzard obviously either wait before serving the bans, or simply process most of their statistical data around Maintenance Day, Tuesday or Wednesday for the EU, they will get banned around those days, and sometimes they will be in the process of doing something else, like using Lazy Raider, Tyrael, Questing, etc. and then you will see a bunch of posts like "Banned for LazyRaider", or "Banned for Questing". Obviously, it wasn't Levelbot, or Tyrael that got them banned, it was whatever they did earlier.

Actually, the following theory comes to mind as plausible.

There are two types of players in Blizzard's minds.

1. Usual suspects

These play from dirty IP's or even IP ranges, or have dirty Hardware ID's, or sometimes have even merged their new WoW accounts with their old Battle.NET accounts, so they can keep their pets, mounts and achievements in order to minimize their losses from previous bans. These players are watched in real time, and everything they do is immediately logged, processed and analyzed. They will get banned in a few hours or depending on profiles, activities and settings, day or two.

2. Everyone else

Since Blizzard have 10 million subscribers, they can't analyze everything in real time. They simply log everyone's activities and process them near Maintenance Days. Sometimes there will be too much to process and some of the information, depending on how low risk the player's account is estimated to be, their data may even be re-scheduled to be processed next maintenance period, so someone who hasn't botted before may receive their ban much later than someone with a visible history of botting, or suspicious activity.

Philosophy of delayed bans.

Blizzard have always said that they prefer to delay the bans, in order to make it harder for cheaters to determine what exactly triggered the ban, making it harder for them to come up with a workaround. This means that actually the abovementioned things would make sense for Blizzard to do - shut down the realms completely every Maintenance Day, patch whatever needs patching, run some tests, and then use the processing power of all this hardware to analyze the statistical data gathered during the week. This way they save money from additional hardware and also delay the bans for long enough to confuse cheaters.