Looking to get back to wow after 2 years break

[runnyw]

Hi, what is it like now ? is honorbuddy still safe to use ? Will there be a lvl 100-110 bot? do I need to be aware of anything when using it?

 

[Jadax]

Define safe. If you want 100% no ban, then no hb isn't safe.

 

[thatwouldbestealing]

Two years? Times change.

Short version, it is a very dangerous place to bot compared to two years ago.

1. Blizzard play dirty to get their hands on BossLand's Stormbuddy source code.
   - links: kotaku, mmo-champion forum post (if you fancy the community's responses)
   - from Bossland: honorbuddy forums
   
   Spoiler

   This was a huge move by Blizzard, they essentialy played outright dirty to (arguably) put pressure on BossLand. As a result, BossLand pulled the StormBuddy product from market -StormBuddy is back on the market now, but it was a huge move by Blizzard and (I believe) no website reporting the incident reported it in a positive light... I mean, this is outright dirty play bordering on harassment. Evil move by Blizzard Activision in the most heinous regard. In my opinion, Bossland's response was legendary and I really admire their resolve to release quality products.
   
   TLDR this sets the stage where (it seems) Blizzard is willing to play extremely dirty to hurt BossLand.
   Not sure if that changes your opinion, but in my opinion Blizz seem to have reached a happy place where they realise they can suspend more often whilst being reasonably confident to retain customers. My opinion = more frequent suspensions.
   
   
2. Blizzard CM Lore comments on Blizzard's reasoning to 'Suspend' rather than 'Ban' botters, and the pyschological merits/anchors that creates. TLDR: first offence = anywhere from 24hrs to 6 months, second offence usualy 6 months, repeat offence can now be 12-18 months.
   - CM Lore @ US Blizz forum
   
   
3. More frequent banwaves. (8th June, 30th June
   
   
4. Tripwire is still being triggered just as often (don't quote me on that, sorry, just my observation)... which means it's working and (in my opinion) BossLand is still running the most sophisticated, secure public bot on the market and doing so ethically and responsibly.
   
   
5. There is a stir about 'Passive Bots' hitting the market, namely LegionBuddy. LegionBuddy may be our saving grace... it promises a lower profile, 64bit and is 'passive' which means injection free. Apologies for lamens terms, as I really don't understand the semantics but essentially 'passive bots' are a departure from traditional bot hooks and handles... LegionBuddy will only handle rotations (which is great! -for some people... or many people) but (IIRC) will adopt a subscription cost -it is a new product from BossLand. LegionBuddy is also not out yet.

Just my opinions, and I apologise for not linking or backing up the last 2 points... but if you take the time to Google "honorbuddy tripwire event" that will give you an idea.


TLDR -- if you are interested in botting for just rotation that in my opinion HonorBuddy is not worth the risk: wait for news and developments on LegionBuddy instead, and then try it out when it's released!

Best of luck buddy, sorry for long reply... I just hate to see genuine customers coming back and not getting an objective answer... I mean, BossLand is pulling something cool here... many will argue around the pricing/availability of LegionBuddy but essentially they still offer the best products out there. Just don't bot with anything for rotation... it's not worth it right now unless you are suicide botting, in which case if you are then disregard all of the above and bot your ass off buddy!

 

[FluffyPuma]

+1 for thatwouldbestealing... He's nailed it

 

[Blackmonkee]

Two years? Times change.

Short version, it is a very dangerous place to bot compared to two years ago.

1. Blizzard play dirty to get their hands on BossLand's Stormbuddy source code.
   - links: kotaku, mmo-champion forum post (if you fancy the community's responses)
   - from Bossland: honorbuddy forums
   
   Spoiler

   This was a huge move by Blizzard, they essentialy played outright dirty to (arguably) put pressure on BossLand. As a result, BossLand pulled the StormBuddy product from market -StormBuddy is back on the market now, but it was a huge move by Blizzard and (I believe) no website reporting the incident reported it in a positive light... I mean, this is outright dirty play bordering on harassment. Evil move by Blizzard Activision in the most heinous regard. In my opinion, Bossland's response was legendary and I really admire their resolve to release quality products.
   
   TLDR this sets the stage where (it seems) Blizzard is willing to play extremely dirty to hurt BossLand.
   Not sure if that changes your opinion, but in my opinion Blizz seem to have reached a happy place where they realise they can suspend more often whilst being reasonably confident to retain customers. My opinion = more frequent suspensions.
   
   
2. Blizzard CM Lore comments on Blizzard's reasoning to 'Suspend' rather than 'Ban' botters, and the pyschological merits/anchors that creates. TLDR: first offence = anywhere from 24hrs to 6 months, second offence usualy 6 months, repeat offence can now be 12-18 months.
   - CM Lore @ US Blizz forum
   
   
3. More frequent banwaves. (8th June, 30th June
   
   
4. Tripwire is still being triggered just as often (don't quote me on that, sorry, just my observation)... which means it's working and (in my opinion) BossLand is still running the most sophisticated, secure public bot on the market and doing so ethically and responsibly.
   
   
5. There is a stir about 'Passive Bots' hitting the market, namely LegionBuddy. LegionBuddy may be our saving grace... it promises a lower profile, 64bit and is 'passive' which means injection free. Apologies for lamens terms, as I really don't understand the semantics but essentially 'passive bots' are a departure from traditional bot hooks and handles... LegionBuddy will only handle rotations (which is great! -for some people... or many people) but (IIRC) will adopt a subscription cost -it is a new product from BossLand. LegionBuddy is also not out yet.

Just my opinions, and I apologise for not linking or backing up the last 2 points... but if you take the time to Google "honorbuddy tripwire event" that will give you an idea.


TLDR -- if you are interested in botting for just rotation that in my opinion HonorBuddy is not worth the risk: wait for news and developments on LegionBuddy instead, and then try it out when it's released!

Best of luck buddy, sorry for long reply... I just hate to see genuine customers coming back and not getting an objective answer... I mean, BossLand is pulling something cool here... many will argue around the pricing/availability of LegionBuddy but essentially they still offer the best products out there. Just don't bot with anything for rotation... it's not worth it right now unless you are suicide botting, in which case if you are then disregard all of the above and bot your ass off buddy!

You're very well-spoken, friend. Glad to have had the pleasure to read this.

 

[thatwouldbestealing]

You're very well-spoken, friend. Glad to have had the pleasure to read this.

+1 for thatwouldbestealing... He's nailed it

Thanks guys, always a pleasure! cheers