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Last Warden-Update ? Backdoors or Blizzard ?

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clooonie

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Hi to the HB-Team and their coder/developer,

in fact you will research everything to find and understand this last hit of blizzard against HB.

In my opinion there are two things.

1st: Warden was updated (since last years!?) and everyone was looking for something new to find HB or other routines in this way to find bots. Afterall everyone was sure about Warden after this update for using HB again. Maybe we all were not right.

2nd: It´s more then effective to use any kind of spy behind the frontlines. If any coding or routine make any conclusion to this new Warden-Update it´s perfect to collect these users by using HB (and still not know for this long timeline).
I think Buddy Store was a great step for HB in service and quick simplify using. But also there are a lot of ways to misusing by Blizzard. In fact: could everyone be sure any coding in BuddyStore was not sold from coder to Blizzard, otherwise Blizzard himself did code something for Buddystore to find any way to find HB-users ?

You know in coding: every little thing could placed in coding (looking "harmless" like i.e. special toon-movement or similar easy ways). You will never be sure about this if Warden is looking for this special way of toon-moving/action/handling.
Blizzard seems to pay lot of money to take advantage (law/coding/etc) in controling bot-users. So they will also pay for less money to take directly way behind these frontlines by any coder for i.e. Buddystore or maybe deep in HB if they can get any chance of this.

Defenitly for me is in result the best "secure way" of using HB by using "only" basics in function and still loading only proofed profiles or i.e. by certified users/profiles/functions.

For sure you will also investigate also in these directions. But if this is really right this will be impossible to find for now. If there is any kind of "backdoor" you will hit this backdoor by using in the same way any kind of unkown/hidden backdoor (unknown to all new and strange coder) and going back online with HB to find this backdoor.

Remember to check everything new in coding-persons "before" last Warden-update. In my single opinion maybe they find a way to use Warden by any backdoor and syncronized with this Warden-update (also) this new function for detecting. So they had planned this for a long time.
New WOW- or HB-updates will not really take any effect to this last big banwave. And coding in this way is most not only trying one, coding in most cases should be safe for a long time. To protect sources you can place 2-3 backdoors and also easy "traps" and anyone is believing to find the main backdoor. Also not one, maybe 2 different coding ways or personally coder, or just 2 different functions are working to Blizzards Warden. In this case it´s really hard to find.

I used last months HB not very often (check my Auths), and only one WOW-account was banned. And this WOW-account was the only one using HB (4-5x monthly!) after this Warden-update. Of course at last I bought several functions in Buddystore (i.e. also all Garrison-functions). -> And any other of 10 Accounts (using HB before) was not banned !

Maybe you will find another explanation, but HB got more insecure in using Buddystore. Hopefully I will not be right, and hopefully you will find asap any way to find this "leak" and making HB again more safe then before. :-)

I wish you the best and I will using HB in future again, also supporting HB in any way. Hopefully you will also continue as long as WOW exists, maybe of course as long as you all want to do this. ;-)

Keep on working this great job !!
 
Thanks for the advice! Never thought of that!!.

Sorry. Never mind. Did not read anything about this just in my head. :-) Find only lot of same text about banwave, banned accounts and thoughts about last HB-updates. Told so "For sure you will also investigate also in these directions". Hopefully you´re not angry with me... ;-)
 
I never liked the idea- that I couldn't review I profile/plugin my self..

I'm a noob- so I would never see a Trojan house if it bit me on the face, However perhaps that is how we all got done, A profile or plugin that we where all using, Performed a very small procedure- that blizzard was looking for...

I sure all the devs are great people- but if blizzard offered me lets say 50k US id have a hard time not saying yes to them- money talks- and making profiles and plugins dosnet make a lot of it...

Perhaps this is all tinfoil stuff- but its still worth a thought IMO... good post.
 
Reason updates on the buddystore take up to 24-48 hours to go live is because buddyteam reviews code and fnctionality FOR YOUR SAFETY. So personaly i dont think this has anything to do with buddystore. Bot itself was detected.....they need to figure out HOW it happened and prevent that sort of detectection in the future......its that simple really.
 
Reason updates on the buddystore take up to 24-48 hours to go live is because buddyteam reviews code and fnctionality FOR YOUR SAFETY. So personaly i dont think this has anything to do with buddystore. Bot itself was detected.....they need to figure out HOW it happened and prevent that sort of detectection in the future......its that simple really.

I like ! So I said: "Hopefully I will not be right" :-)

I´m not worried about banned, I just don´t like if Blizzard found any weak gateway to mointor for "control" HB-users for free decision in how much online, ban or suspend at their wish or just to explore working and progressing HB-users. In other words: I hate minds like this and feel better to share this point. So if anybody is thinking about and can help/support HB with hints in tihs way thats great ! So if I am wrong -> I like it even more ! ;-)
 
Please cease with the uninformed, uneducated speculation about what caused the banwave.

I suggest watching the following video:

[video=youtube;hABj_mrP-no]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABj_mrP-no[/video]

A bot can be detected with a few lines of code or assembly instructions, if the code is well targeted. There is no need to invent these convoluted hypotheses to explain something that is likely quite simple, Honorbuddy got detected via software and will continue to operate once they fix the vulnerability and take any measures necessary to mitigate future risk.
 
Please cease with the uninformed, uneducated speculation about what caused the banwave.

I suggest watching the following video:

A bot can be detected with a few lines of code or assembly instructions, if the code is well targeted. There is no need to invent these convoluted hypotheses to explain something that is likely quite simple, Honorbuddy got detected via software and will continue to operate once they fix the vulnerability and take any measures necessary to mitigate future risk.

You see I´m on your way. Otherwise the video should support my thread. In case of your game-hacking-video I just want to ask why the got this big hit now (why not more often in small hits) ? You know that HB is going much more better and much more safe then the early years. And Blizzard got this nice surprise (also after this Bossland-Bullseye at law) in this time w/o any suspect movements in coding or research (for this "wave" you can´t move easy "under radar"). :-)

Just take this point for you. I like videos and hacking like this - and anyway: I will continue using HB just for fun and support HB whenever possible ! ;-)
 
Please cease with the uninformed, uneducated speculation about what caused the banwave.

I suggest watching the following video:

A bot can be detected with a few lines of code or assembly instructions, if the code is well targeted. There is no need to invent these convoluted hypotheses to explain something that is likely quite simple, Honorbuddy got detected via software and will continue to operate once they fix the vulnerability and take any measures necessary to mitigate future risk.

And the point to link a random non-related internet vid on every ban-related forum thread is?

At least we should expect an informed, educated speculation from yourself! Oh wait ...
 
And the point to link a random non-related internet vid on every ban-related forum thread is?

At least we should expect an informed, educated speculation from yourself! Oh wait ...

Hey, shut up.

Watch 40 minutes into the video and then say it isn't relevant.
 
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For sure you were right in your opinion. Don´t forget to stay together and be kindly to each other with different points or opinions. For me it´s like being part of HB-group to be should-to-shoulder. Will have no positive effects in bad wording. Okay, out of formulated friendly sarcasm and cynicism ... ;-)
 
didnt i kill this already? the devs are working on it. thats really all i can say.

thread closed.
 
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