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Just some stupid idea :D

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kekic91

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I personaly dont have time and fuds to do this but here my idea

Everyone talks about blizz scan our pc process and ram etc etc

I would like some1 with time and funds to test it simple by runing just HB interface(procces) and play manual normaly in 32bit wow client.
so do not use HB on toons,Hb stay at stop,dont use,at all,even on a minute.
and just play wow,if u get banned they scan ur pc im sure
by manual playing i mean do questing meanwhile doing dungs
and if is possible somehow do it 5+ h/day :D

maybe its stupid but give us some hope info how we can focus other methods to be as safe as possible (not safe 100% i know )
 
Somebody on the forum did this, no idea where the thread is though.
 
This experiment is useless.

If HB was "detected" would be many moire bans then there are. There are many (maybe thousands) of users who bot regularly here who have never been banned. You do not account for that group in your "experiment".
 
NavyAV89 said:
This experiment is useless.

If HB was "detected" would be many moire bans then there are. There are many (maybe thousands) of users who bot regularly here who have never been banned. You do not account for that group in your "experiment".
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U know they wont going against themselfs by banning many more cuz they will lost many more money
This experiment should show if they are process detected capaible
ofc there are many ppl not banned yet cuz they wont ban all ofc,and they cant reach every single player and invetigate him
 
kekic91 said:
U know they wont going against themselfs by banning many more cuz they will lost many more money
This experiment should show if they are process detected capaible
ofc there are many ppl not banned yet cuz they wont ban all ofc,and they cant reach every single player and invetigate him
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So how does your idea accomplish anything? If what you are saying is true, we already know the account wont get banned. We know that a botted account may not get banned either.

I encourage you to use google and look up "Scientific Method". It is how experiments that produce real results are conducted.
 
NavyAV89 said:
So how does your idea accomplish anything? If what you are saying is true, we already know the account wont get banned. We know that a botted account may not get banned either.

I encourage you to use google and look up "Scientific Method". It is how experiments that produce real results are conducted.
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this is not what i say what they say what will be ''if''
run test and write reasults,if u get banned while runing test then is for use they can detect processes
if not either ur lucky either they cant detect it
 
As has been stated many, many times before....This is a stupid, worthless experiment for several different reasons:

1. Blizz does not continuously scan. If they did, they would've been caught in the act a long time ago.
2. A sample size of one is far too small to conclude anything by this experiment.
3. Blizz is not static in their ways. Just because you may catch them once, it doesn't mean they're going to use the same detection methods in the future.

Even if you did catch them, what are you going to do about it? You still have no idea when they scanned, what the scan entailed, or how to protect yourself from said scan. Even if Blizz did scan your pc, they may sit on the report for weeks before they take any action.

As a user, there's very little you can do to protect yourself from bans. All the protection schemes you read about on these forums (ie. VM's, multiple IP's, VPN's) have all been proven to be worthless in protecting accounts, and it's been proven time and time again.

If you want to keep your accounts safe, bot smart. Bot like a real player would play. If blizz is going to catch you botting, they'll catch you botting.
 
ryftobuddy said:
As has been stated many, many times before....This is a stupid, worthless experiment for several different reasons:

1. Blizz does not continuously scan. If they did, they would've been caught in the act a long time ago.
2. A sample size of one is far too small to conclude anything by this experiment.
3. Blizz is not static in their ways. Just because you may catch them once, it doesn't mean they're going to use the same detection methods in the future.

Even if you did catch them, what are you going to do about it? You still have no idea when they scanned, what the scan entailed, or how to protect yourself from said scan. Even if Blizz did scan your pc, they may sit on the report for weeks before they take any action.

As a user, there's very little you can do to protect yourself from bans. All the protection schemes you read about on these forums (ie. VM's, multiple IP's, VPN's) have all been proven to be worthless in protecting accounts, and it's been proven time and time again.

If you want to keep your accounts safe, bot smart. Bot like a real player would play. If blizz is going to catch you botting, they'll catch you botting.
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u just repeat ur self on every thread,in this experiment i dont need 1k or 100k samples to have reasults,i need just one
if they ban in this experiment its show that they run scans and that end on that big question Is Blizz running cpu-ram scan ( beacuse its only way to detect in this experiment and that point of it)
they cant get any repoorts for boting beacuse u dont bot ! u just run hb process !
u play like normal player so reporting way detecting isnt possible in this experiment
only possible way in this experiment if u get banned is that they scan process
and yes i know they use multiple ways u find us but this experimect determite that this is one way
and if u dont get cauth while experimenting this it dont means that they do not scan,maybe u just got lucky to not scan ur pc
but if u get cauth then its for sure
simple
dont repeat ur selef with same quete on diferent topic subjects

All best
tnx for rply
 
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And once again, what are you proving? How is this going to protect us in the future? How are you bettering the community with this experiment? What data are you providing us?

We already know that Blizz has scanned our pc's in the past. The banwave proved that.

Even if you did this experiment on 10,000 pc's, all using different networks, all using completely different account information, what happens when only 9,000 of the accounts are banned of the 10,000? What have you proven? A sample size of one, once again, proves nothing, it never has and it never will.
 
if 9 of 10 got banned its success experiment ofc
if acc get bann that provide us info that they scan proces so u ant do much things to protect ur self exept finding way to actaly hide it from blizz
that will bettering community
data provided is pictures,info abbout how many h/day played hand,and on the end blizzs in game/mail proofs that got baned

meanwhile u atack point of this exp i found thread with exact this experiment and acc got per ban for using bot in 2015 so we got our answer at least on one way detecion is this and idk for other ways

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/ban-section-ban-reports/discussions-no-ban-reports-here-/217797-keeping-hb-running-actively-using-experiment-2.html
 
Bans are often delayed tho. So if for example i do this, and play for idk.. a month manually while honorbuddy is running in background, and then get banned, most likely it's a delayed ban.
If you really want to test this, you need someone to be dedicated enough to do this for several months. I don't think anyone would want that.
 
kekic91 said:
if 9 of 10 got banned its success experiment ofc
if acc get bann that provide us info that they scan proces so u ant do much things to protect ur self exept finding way to actaly hide it from blizz
that will bettering community
data provided is pictures,info abbout how many h/day played hand,and on the end blizzs in game/mail proofs that got baned

meanwhile u atack point of this exp i found thread with exact this experiment and acc got per ban for using bot in 2015 so we got our answer at least on one way detecion is this and idk for other ways

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/ban-section-ban-reports/discussions-no-ban-reports-here-/217797-keeping-hb-running-actively-using-experiment-2.html
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Congrats on finding a thread that contains absolutely zero proof that he was actually banned and doesn't provide any actual data to the community other than him saying he was banned.

What's the point of running an experiment like this if you gain nothing from it? Again,We already know they scan our pc's. Again, how does having that information help us? What value does it bring to the table? Unless you can catch blizz in the act, you've proven nothing other than pointing a finger and wagging it at them.

As multiple people pointed out, blizz does not act immediately on whatever measures they have in place. So even if you get banned 8 weeks down the road, how does that help? Do you know when the scan occurred? No, you don't.
 
ryftobuddy said:
Congrats on finding a thread that contains absolutely zero proof that he was actually banned and doesn't provide any actual data to the community other than him saying he was banned.

What's the point of running an experiment like this if you gain nothing from it? Again,We already know they scan our pc's. Again, how does having that information help us? What value does it bring to the table? Unless you can catch blizz in the act, you've proven nothing other than pointing a finger and wagging it at them.

As multiple people pointed out, blizz does not act immediately on whatever measures they have in place. So even if you get banned 8 weeks down the road, how does that help? Do you know when the scan occurred? No, you don't.
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no i dont need to know when scans ocure or else,geting acc baned that way point that they scan processes,thats point of experiment and let me see what else i can answer from ur post.....ah ! here is ,that information would help us so from that point will no be more question about does blizz scan pc,know methods that blizz uses etc etc it will put a dot on that question...that is worth? any of this information comfirbed by this experiment will help
and yea that theard dont contain proofs but i belive he was lazy
 
No, it simply won't put a dot to any questions...We pretty much already know blizz scans our pc's. The ban wave 6 months ago pretty much proved that point...

Even having that knowledge, how does it help? It doesn't tell us what methods they use to scan, it doesn't tell us when the scan or scans occurred, it doesn't tell us how to prevent the scans from occurring. The only usable data we could gather from such an experiment is if we actually caught them in the act of the scan. Other than that, no new data will be gathered.

And again, a sample size of one means absolutely nothing and proves absolutely nothing.

Even if you find out blizz is scanning our pc's, what are you going to do about it? Quit botting? Call them out on it? Get a lawyer and sue them? Once again, you still have no evidence of anything really. You didn't catch them doing anything, you aren't able to pinpoint any usable data. Are you going to confront some low level GM and accuse them of some wrong-doing? Again how does that help us?
 
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If you play 6 hours a day with HB running but NOT using it, if banned it proves that HB is detected. Knowing that is very valuable information (at least to me)
 
ryftobuddy said:
No, it simply won't put a dot to any questions...We pretty much already know blizz scans our pc's. The ban wave 6 months ago pretty much proved that point...

Even having that knowledge, how does it help? It doesn't tell us what methods they use to scan, it doesn't tell us when the scan or scans occurred, it doesn't tell us how to prevent the scans from occurring. The only usable data we could gather from such an experiment is if we actually caught them in the act of the scan. Other than that, no new data will be gathered.

And again, a sample size of one means absolutely nothing and proves absolutely nothing.

Even if you find out blizz is scanning our pc's, what are you going to do about it? Quit botting? Call them out on it? Get a lawyer and sue them? Once again, you still have no evidence of anything really. You didn't catch them doing anything, you aren't able to pinpoint any usable data. Are you going to confront some low level GM and accuse them of some wrong-doing? Again how does that help us?
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Abyssion said all , tnx to him
 
Abyssion said:
If you play 6 hours a day with HB running but NOT using it, if banned it proves that HB is detected. Knowing that is very valuable information (at least to me)
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HB was, and very well still be, detected. Bossland even confirmed it. Thousands of people don't get banned without a detection. At this point, you damn well better assume it's still detected.

Getting banned while botting isn't a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

Not a single HB employee will ever tell you that you won't be banned. They'll tell you it's as "safe" as it's always been. That should be a pretty big indication to you how safe it really is when a huge banwave happened and they haven't changed their answer since.
 
ryftobuddy said:
HB was, and very well still be, detected. Bossland even confirmed it. Thousands of people don't get banned without a detection. At this point, you damn well better assume it's still detected.

Getting banned while botting isn't a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

Not a single HB employee will ever tell you that you won't be banned. They'll tell you it's as "safe" as it's always been. That should be a pretty big indication to you how safe it really is when a huge banwave happened and they haven't changed their answer since.
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This has nothing to do with Abyssion was said

and im not trolling,your posts or any,i just read alot on forum and alot of time i across on ur post and they all the same on very diferent topics.
 
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