Just got bans for all accounts from one IP

[Pistoletto]

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account?
Gatherbuddy / Professionbuddy

2)If so, when was the last time?:
They were working when ban happend

3)What profile were you using?:
All deferent profiles for farming herb in high lvl zones.

4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname:
Fpsware druid or something like that called.

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?:
24/7

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot?
90% of time someone is siting next to botting machines monitoring bots, answering every single whisper, and watching out for bots not to bug somewhere...

7)How many auctions per day did you have?:
never counted but lots, lets say 150-200

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods?
Never

9)Was your account involved in gold selling?
None of those accounts had sale last 7 days.

10)EU or US realm?
EU


Anyway i just got permanent bans for all accounts that are running on same IP, others didnt got bans (yet) , its Abuse of economy for each of them.
Im planning to try unban them and hoping it will work as i know they didnt had hard evidence and it was more about wild gues and pattern follow up.
My friend lost 19 accounts in ~1 hour deference from me and as well all bans were on each account from same IPs.


This is mail i got on all accounts, rather copy pasted automated shit:

***Notice of Account Closure***

Account Name:

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Abuse of the Economy

This account was closed because one or more characters were identified exchanging, or contributing to the exchange of, in-game property (items or gold) for "real-world" currency. This exchange process negatively impacts the World of Warcraft game environment by detracting from the value of the in-game economy.

Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner can still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.

We've found the above behaviour is many times directly related to groups responsible for compromising World of Warcraft accounts; we take these issues very seriously. To better understand our position against exploitative activity and the risks involved, please review this article: Impact of Buying Gold - Services - World of Warcraft

The exploitative activity that took place on this account violates the World of Warcraft Terms of Use. We ask you take a moment to review these terms at Blizzard Entertainment: Blizzard Legal Documentation. Any recurring subscriptions on this account have been suspended to prevent further monetary charges.

If you believe your account was compromised, please go to the following website https://eu.battle.net/account/support/account-recovery.html. Our support staff will assist you as soon as possible. If you are unable to access your account due to the password being changed, please visit our Login Support site here: https://eu.battle.net/account/support/password-reset.html

For any disputes of this action or further information on Exploitive Activity, please visit the Exploitative Activity FAQ and contact page here: Exploitative Activity in World of Warcraft - Support - Battle.net Support

Regards,

Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment Europe
World of Warcraft

 

[Draganos]

i hope nobody claims anymore there are no ip bans becuause of internet cafe or uni centres...

IP BAN IS REALITY!

 

[Newborn]

1. PROBLEM don't bot 24/7 bot like a human,


2. look at how many stuff in AH

3. warden will most likely auto detect your hours of gameplay and in your case 24/7 and no human can play 24/7 so your own fault

 

[CodenameG]

1. PROBLEM don't bot 24/7 bot like a human,


2. look at how many stuff in AH

3. warden will most likely auto detect your hours of gameplay and in your case 24/7 and no human can play 24/7 so your own fault

please stop spreading false information, Warden only cares about what happens inside of wow at a software level, not a gameplay level. he got banned because of the gold sale, or he got reported. not because of warden.

 

[Pistoletto]

It has nothing to do with 24/7 u ppl need to understand blizz dont care for those things until u get reported by player multiple times and combined with bad luck of getting cock GM behinde your case will get u banned.
Stuff i post at AH i dont SPAM, i only post 6 of 1 per 1 flask and new ones are posted only after being downcuted or sold.
I dont bot on same charr 24/7 its about 18 hours of botting and 4 hours selling from deferent toon.
I believe its all luck of how many paraniod idiots u gonna get reported from just from being in zones like Uldum, Twilight etc, i seen before ppl that just type /who twilight and every 85 that they see say its bot... in most cases its true but ...

 

[Morvar]

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?:
24/7

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot?
90% of time someone is siting next to botting machines monitoring bots, answering every single whisper, and watching out for bots not to bug somewhere...

Wow...you and your friends need no sleep...

 

[Pistoletto]

Wow...you and your friends need no sleep...

Well we take this as our job, so yes we do shifts at my house always being next to PCs, even during night there is almost always someone there.

 

[Non Quixote]

i hope nobody claims anymore there are no ip bans becuause of internet cafe or uni centres...

IP BAN IS REALITY!

Since none of us work for Blizzard, none of us can say with certainty what criteria Blizzard uses to ban accounts. No one can say with certainty that Blizz bans by IP, and likewise no one can say with certainty that Blizz does not ban by IP.

Having said that, I find it highly unlikely that Blizz bans by IP, in the sense that you mean it. I can however believe that when a Blizz GM investigates an account for botting, he/she may also look to see if there are any other accounts that log in through the same IP. If the answer is yes, they may also investigate those accounts prior to banning the one that they know with some certainty is botting. Just a hypotheticalbut if they see:

15 accounts logging in with same IP
14 accounts that have done nothing but farm mats for the last 3 months, for 18 hours a day
1 account does nothing but post mats on the AH and collect gold

then I would think that they would assume (rightly) that all of those accounts are bot/farm accounts and ban them. I know I would.

 

[Venus112]

It has nothing to do with 24/7 u ppl need to understand blizz dont care for those things until u get reported by player multiple times and combined with bad luck of getting cock GM behinde your case will get u banned.
Stuff i post at AH i dont SPAM, i only post 6 of 1 per 1 flask and new ones are posted only after being downcuted or sold.
I dont bot on same charr 24/7 its about 18 hours of botting and 4 hours selling from deferent toon.
I believe its all luck of how many paraniod idiots u gonna get reported from just from being in zones like Uldum, Twilight etc, i seen before ppl that just type /who twilight and every 85 that they see say its bot... in most cases its true but ...

How can you say it has nothing to do with 24/7?
If they aren't doing this, they'd be stupid - and i seriously believe aren't.

You need to understand that you dont know that blizzard does not care.

I have no oppinions on what the matter is, but what you are saying right there is just as right as saying you'll get banned for 24/7....

 

[Pistoletto]

There is no magic trigger for blizz that will automaticly ban u if your accounts are onlin 24/7. im doing it like that for quite long time and this is first perma bans i got, how ever when GM start checking into your acc on requested ticket if he does check and see ur online 24/7 ofc ul get banned, but that is just following pattern of pure logic, its not hard for GMs to get enough evidence to ban u once they start checking u.
So as 99% bans come from other players reporting u, and in most cases if GM checks on your account u gonna go down no metter if u was 24/7 on or not, even checking someones armory can tell u that much...
O btw just do some math if i was running my accounts that cost what less then 50e and 7 days to get to 85 for 6 monts before they get banned they worked their fair share and get me solid amounts of cash, if i was to use them 6 hours per day i would make 4x less cash but would those accounts last for 2 years? dont think so its just pure rng when u gonna be reported, so i try to make most of every account before it goes down.
It cost me just fresh acc price and about 7 days to get them back up and running.
So for me 24/7 >>> few hours a day botting .

Srsly it means alot what kind of person guy who gets to review your "case" is, u probably mostly get guys who just skip your case, marking it as solved false report, some of them might even check u by whisper, some guys will try harder and watch your toon for some time and teleport u around, and some wont even look for real proofs will just assume u are bot by following logic patterns.
God knows how many times i thank those GMs who whisper me as il reply in no time, god knows how many times they just skip me as they cba, few times i was teleported around and getting warnings or final warnings but no perma bans etc.... soooo much is in luck and rng, all u can do is try to maximise your income from bots before they go down, and ofc take some basic steps to try mask your shady business as much as u can..

Btw saying that blizz care enough for botters is silly, they could easily make warden 1000000x better and detect HB easy, they just dont give enough fck for that... they ban here and there few accounts its very small % of total number, just so they can say "we are doing something"
Its like ur in banana republic where one million ppl are dealing drugs, and u got police that takes down 1000 of them per year, srsly... its just silly...

 

[youfoundme]

24/7 ?

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?:
24/7

This answer makes all other questions on the form irrelevant.

 

[Venus112]

Btw saying that blizz care enough for botters is silly, they could easily make warden 1000000x better and detect HB easy, they just dont give enough fck for that... they ban here and there few accounts its very small % of total number, just so they can say "we are doing something"
Its like ur in banana republic where one million ppl are dealing drugs, and u got police that takes down 1000 of them per year, srsly... its just silly...

Yeh, cause Blizzard sueing Bossland and Pirox is them doing absolutely nothing against botters
That pretty much shows they care about botters
/clap

 

[Thang781]

How can you say it has nothing to do with 24/7?

because i only bot 24/7 no matter if it's farming or leveling or pvping. and this is not an issue. period.

 

[Pistoletto]

I said they dont care ENOUGH, if u think that best blizz made out of anti cheat system is that pure joke called Warden then u dont know how easy it would be for them to make it worst botter nightmare.
Sueing makers of botting softwares was more bleff to scare them away without any real effort ( even maybe make TONS OF MONEY out of it if they won on law..), and it worked, Pirox didnt want to risk 1% and just closed, LazyBot author is MIA since he got his letter from blizzard thats how much he got scared maybe he moved to africa or god knows where....
So just by paying few lawyers to write some bullshit letters they manage to remove basicly most of bot companies away with very little effort... why not?
Simply they dont give much of a damn for us and bots in general as long as its not something they gonna lose lots of money from, and as they aint loosing money from us botters they dont care.
Why would huge company that only care about profit deal and spend huge human and financial resources on something that doesnt cost them???

 

[Pistoletto]

For those who keep quoting 24/7 is main issue, just understand that here are tons of ppl that bot 24/7 and dont get bans or get them very rarely, me and my friend together own over 65 active bots and from october last year till today we lost ZERO accounts, so ...................................

 

[dracoe]

Botting 24/7 does not matter. You can rotate your bots and accounts and still bot 24/7. You can use ARelogg and give them 30 minutes break. The IP ban is not real. Not diversifying is real. They won't ban by IP, you can pop another account in seconds from same IP clean, no bots and start playing by hand and you won't get ban. People get ban because their whole process once reviewed don't show sings of human intervention.

GB/HB has nothing to do with bans, is the best bot in the market. If blizzard could detect HB/GB they will do banwaves.

 

[Eisenberg]

Well, if You carefully look at AH on any server this days, You can see that They banned nearly every farming bot. So i think that they strated to care about bots.

 

[Pistoletto]

They won't ban by IP, you can pop another account in seconds from same IP clean

Ofc they wont ban IP, but when they look deeper on investigation of one account, they sometime check that IP to see if at that moment there is more wow accounts running, if so they will check into them and if pattern occur they will ban them all, ofc u can log another account tomorow and it wont get ban, coz they not gonna monitor your IP for ever its simply done in process of investigation.

And tbh regarding IP ban, they are careless sometime, il give u example of it, when i got bans once before, same IP was used by my only real Bnet account that was 101% clean in every and each way, no gold selling, no herb/mining or anything at all, simply clean account that i used my self for pvping and raiding, i got it banned as well just coz other 4 accounts on same IP were botting, i did however got it unbanned without any problems as i ask them to look again.

GB/HB has nothing to do with bans, is the best bot in the market. If blizzard could detect HB/GB they will do banwaves.

Where did i say its HB/GB fault? it is best bot on marked, how ever it is far from perfect, my toons aint even close as human being thanks to poor support for druid herbing, but i dont blame HB/GB for anything, it is still best around and only reason i made post about being banned is to give word about what happend and to warn ppl.

 

[dracoe]

What happen with the IP theory is I been in the same network for 3 Years. I live in the boondocks, there is only 1 company provider. I been botting since Glider. I have used Pirox, MiMic, Gnome, GB/HB. I even have tried some weird stuff. Now, I do what other botters do I farm on my main account, I farm on the other accounts, troll in chat. I got 3 hours suspension for trash talking in trade. I got 6 self-sustained accounts. I sell gold from time to time, or exchange for cards. I have sold accounts. The last 3 years in the same network, same ISP provider. Yes I do bot 24/7 max 4 accounts online at a time. I haven't been ban *knock on wood* since Glider BanWave.

Now what would be the difference? My bots are not doing the same over and over. If I have a farmer today doing herbs, I give him a break next and do ore, while another bots farm herbs. Or I simply give him a break and put them to do quests, or start a new toon on another server. Or simply enter sit and chat with it. The more unlogical you act with your accounts the easier is to ban you.

Example
Bot A:
Farm Ore in Uldum every other day.
Alternates days he just PvP.

Bot B:
Every other day sells some stuff in ah, trade.
Every other day trolls trade
Every other day PvP in a group with Bot A.

 

[Pistoletto]

Mate i do deferent stuff from hour to hour, deferent zones, deferent profiles, i answer every single whisper by my hand, all those things are just helping as some prevention from getting reported, but u cant make paranoid morons dont report u for no reason at all except fact that u was there when they typed /who twilight or what ever, srsly u wouldnt believe what kind of whispers i was getting, lets just say there is lots of ppl that think deferent, someone will think ur bot simply coz u have herbalism or mining as profession, someone will say same if ur 85 lvl and not so good gear while in high lvl zones like uldum, twilight etc, someone will report u just coz ur online at retarded hours at night, someone wont see ur bot even if ur stuck next to him for 10min bugging.... its all just rng of when and how u gonna get reported and how many times before blizz come and shut down those accounts, there is no safe pattern and there is no magic triggers...