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Kickazz006
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are you looking for a desktop or laptop? are you looking for new or used? used can be found on ebay, simply type in "gamer" and put in a price
if you want to buy a new pc ... do you know how to build a pc? if not, buy one pre-built from ebay. but if you know how to build pc's... hit up:
Newegg
Tigerdirect
Geeks
i'd say go ahead and invest in a good vid card (for cataclysm) - make sure it supports directx10 - this will be one of the most expensive pieces. you will want at least 4gb of ddr3 (if not 8, 12, 16gb). Also, please give us a "price" on what you want to pay? are you looking for a super cheap $200 pc, or can you pay $1500 for a pc?
what features are you looking for exactly?
a pc i recently bought just for my bots is below
$365 shipped (i messaged him after auction ended since no on bid on it)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330392086784&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Heres what i would recommend (i shop newegg for new stuff)
Intel i7/mobo combo
16gb DDR 3 (in time w/ ur fsb of cpu -- dual/quad channel ram)
1GB pci-e vid card
500-800w power supply
500gb-1TB hdd or two
A "cooler master" box (maybe combo w/ power supply) or equiv. something that has good air flow
a very, very good cooler for your cpu
make sure you have peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers/sound, etc)
optical drive (dvd/hd/b-ray)
you can probably run 12 bots on this, or more
windows ... u can use a legal version you have. torrents can get you free stuff, but that's illegal to do, and i dont think i can advise you how to do that on this forum
for bare minimum (cheap):
duo-core cpu + mobo combo
4gb ddr2 or ddr3 (matched to fsb of cpu)
box + power supply (400w+)
512mb+vid card
200gb+ hdd
cooler for cpu (if not included on combo)
basic dvd drive
if you decide to try and build your own pc... its not very hard, you just need to check a few things:
case - it should open to 1 side (some have the whole side, top, and other side as 1 pulloff unit)
mobo fits in and needs at least 4 screws to hold it down (you'll see bolt holes inside the case)
the cpu you fit into socket on mobo and LOCK IT DOWN via a lever or turnkey (laptops have turnkeys). make sure the cpu is seated properly before you lock it, or it will damage the pins
2nd note: you will need thermal paste (included w/ cpu) or Arctic silver (for power users/gamers/over clockers).
then you seat the huge cpu heatsink/fan onto your cpu and PLUG IT IN
the ram you seat into the long ram extension bays, seat them evenly
the optical drive is 5.25" (im sure you know where it goes) make sure you use at least 2 screws, if not 4, to screw it into its slot
the hdd(s) (hard drive) use 4 screws (minimum 3) and it goes in the smaller bay (3.5")
the power supply is usually screwed in with 4 screws to the case (backside). there will be 1 big plug that goes into mobo, usually a 2nd'ary plug (4 pin square) that connects near the cpu, and some vid cards have various power cords that need to go in them. also the optical drive and hdd both need their own 12v connections (4 pin, long)
the vid card will need to be seated in the pci-e slot (usually only 1-2 slots for pci-e on a mobo)
when plugging up cords to the rear, use common sense and they all fit easily.
i hope this helps
if you want to buy a new pc ... do you know how to build a pc? if not, buy one pre-built from ebay. but if you know how to build pc's... hit up:
Newegg
Tigerdirect
Geeks
i'd say go ahead and invest in a good vid card (for cataclysm) - make sure it supports directx10 - this will be one of the most expensive pieces. you will want at least 4gb of ddr3 (if not 8, 12, 16gb). Also, please give us a "price" on what you want to pay? are you looking for a super cheap $200 pc, or can you pay $1500 for a pc?
what features are you looking for exactly?
a pc i recently bought just for my bots is below
$365 shipped (i messaged him after auction ended since no on bid on it)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330392086784&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Heres what i would recommend (i shop newegg for new stuff)
Intel i7/mobo combo
16gb DDR 3 (in time w/ ur fsb of cpu -- dual/quad channel ram)
1GB pci-e vid card
500-800w power supply
500gb-1TB hdd or two
A "cooler master" box (maybe combo w/ power supply) or equiv. something that has good air flow
a very, very good cooler for your cpu
make sure you have peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers/sound, etc)
optical drive (dvd/hd/b-ray)
you can probably run 12 bots on this, or more
windows ... u can use a legal version you have. torrents can get you free stuff, but that's illegal to do, and i dont think i can advise you how to do that on this forum
for bare minimum (cheap):
duo-core cpu + mobo combo
4gb ddr2 or ddr3 (matched to fsb of cpu)
box + power supply (400w+)
512mb+vid card
200gb+ hdd
cooler for cpu (if not included on combo)
basic dvd drive
if you decide to try and build your own pc... its not very hard, you just need to check a few things:
case - it should open to 1 side (some have the whole side, top, and other side as 1 pulloff unit)
mobo fits in and needs at least 4 screws to hold it down (you'll see bolt holes inside the case)
the cpu you fit into socket on mobo and LOCK IT DOWN via a lever or turnkey (laptops have turnkeys). make sure the cpu is seated properly before you lock it, or it will damage the pins
2nd note: you will need thermal paste (included w/ cpu) or Arctic silver (for power users/gamers/over clockers).
then you seat the huge cpu heatsink/fan onto your cpu and PLUG IT IN
the ram you seat into the long ram extension bays, seat them evenly
the optical drive is 5.25" (im sure you know where it goes) make sure you use at least 2 screws, if not 4, to screw it into its slot
the hdd(s) (hard drive) use 4 screws (minimum 3) and it goes in the smaller bay (3.5")
the power supply is usually screwed in with 4 screws to the case (backside). there will be 1 big plug that goes into mobo, usually a 2nd'ary plug (4 pin square) that connects near the cpu, and some vid cards have various power cords that need to go in them. also the optical drive and hdd both need their own 12v connections (4 pin, long)
the vid card will need to be seated in the pci-e slot (usually only 1-2 slots for pci-e on a mobo)
when plugging up cords to the rear, use common sense and they all fit easily.
i hope this helps
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Mess1337
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We need to know your budget and where you live (Just country, so we can compare hardware prices).
xvampx
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well considering 1 wow takes roughly 400-500MB memory, multiplied by 6, we come at 3000 mb ram minimun, add to that the required 256mb ram to run XP,
i would suggest a
quadcore or i5/I7 processor,
at least 4gb DDR3 (higher than 4gb will result in you needing a 64bit operating system)
at least a 8800GTS graphics card
ofc a motherboard with the required socket
a 650W power supply unit
and a hard disk of 100GB
it'll be a bit costly, but you will be able to run at least 6-8 bots with it, with all video settings set to low
i would suggest a
quadcore or i5/I7 processor,
at least 4gb DDR3 (higher than 4gb will result in you needing a 64bit operating system)
at least a 8800GTS graphics card
ofc a motherboard with the required socket
a 650W power supply unit
and a hard disk of 100GB
it'll be a bit costly, but you will be able to run at least 6-8 bots with it, with all video settings set to low
Kickazz006
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well considering 1 wow takes roughly 400-500MB memory, multiplied by 6, we come at 3000 mb ram minimun, add to that the required 256mb ram to run XP,
i would suggest a
quadcore or i5/I7 processor,
at least 4gb DDR3 (higher than 4gb will result in you needing a 64bit operating system)
at least a 8800GTS graphics card
ofc a motherboard with the required socket
a 650W power supply unit
and a hard disk of 100GB
it'll be a bit costly, but you will be able to run at least 6-8 bots with it, with all video settings set to low
if you use /console fpsmax 10
/console fpxmaxbk 5
this will cut down your memory a LOT. i use win 7 x64 bit with 6 bots running (5xgb, 1xhb) currently on my laptop (my desktop is still in the mail) it takes up ~75% ram (4gb total ddr2 667 mhz) just running windows, it takes up 23%
xvampx
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meh i didnt even know it would run at 10 FPS
i allready hate it when it runs any lower than 30 fps
i try to keep my bots at 40 fps each ^^
Kickazz006
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meh i didnt even know it would run at 10 FPS
i allready hate it when it runs any lower than 30 fps
i try to keep my bots at 40 fps each ^^
if you're playing them, you prob dont like anything below 40 fps... but they can run at 5 fps just fine
Mess1337
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Not every CC will run at 5 FPS. Take Mords paladin CC, it wont run properly unless you have 20-25 FPS.
the mage CC does this too im sure.
wilsonj17
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you should learn how to build your own pc cause you can spend around 300gbp - 500gbp on building a extreme gaming pc which i have built but.... if you buy it already built your paying atleast 1000gbp, i learnt building of youtube video's which i suggest you visit since it only took me a couple of days buying and reviewing compatible parts for my pc and a few hours to build, also try and buy a pc that has no OS built in because you can download pirate copys and there awesome plus it will slash a good sum of your final bill's
check overclockers website they sell cheap pc parts and pc's and very trustworthy
check overclockers website they sell cheap pc parts and pc's and very trustworthy
awscissors
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if you really want to go cheap i'd recomend the Radeon HD 5450 videocard, it supports directX 11 and is under $60. Also if you get a decent cooler master or well vented case you will be fine with the default cpu fan (unless you're overclocking) and a quad core provides plenty of power for my botting purposes. I also use DDR2 as it is much cheaper and if you put in at least 4gb and use the macro's posted here that should be plenty. If you're going to build the pc yourself try using a guide from Maximum pc, that's how i got started building towers.
I could only find a guide for a $650 pc but they have guides for $400 pcs:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/how_build_awesome_pc_647
If you're going to buy one pre-built look for these features:
-quad core processor
-graphics card with 1gb memory
-at least 4gb of ram
GL ^_^
I could only find a guide for a $650 pc but they have guides for $400 pcs:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/how_build_awesome_pc_647
If you're going to buy one pre-built look for these features:
-quad core processor
-graphics card with 1gb memory
-at least 4gb of ram
GL ^_^
Kickazz006
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oh sorry guys, i dont use HB much. GB just flys around. i guess the HB engine requires more scanning and what not, other than simply "gathering nodes"
i based mine solely on GB specs, not HB.
i based mine solely on GB specs, not HB.
Whats your laptop's spec, as im looking to buy a laptop too for work porpuse but should be good enough to run 3 bots for now.
price range 500-1500euro Holland
Kickazz006
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laptop is hp dv9535nr:
1.5ghz (duo core) cpu
4gb ram (2gb stock)
nvidia 8600m gs vid card (256mb stock, up to 1023mb shared)
120gb hddx2
win 7 x64
i run at 1400x900 resolution
it was made in June 2007 - I bought it new... and then i bought another one for $150 that its video card "went out", I simply "reflowed" the video card and it worked perfectly. I got a GREAT deal on that one
it does the job, but nothing like a DX 11 card does.
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Kickazz006
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its AMD - Athlon, or Intel Pentium 4 ... i assume AMD? any 2.5ghz+ is fine for a desktop.
ram is stated above (4gb+, which is cheap for 4gb)
gfx card we recommend 1gb, but will work w/ 512
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Also WOW is not nearly as Video intensive as people would make it out to be. It is however a memory and CPU hog.
I use this instead of my main machine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167020
I didn't buy it specifically for botting, I poached it when I replaced my media PC, and it works. I think when I bought it, it cost like $300. The key is once you have the bots running shrink the window as small as you possibly can. Look at the bossland youtube video and see how small those windows are. I can barely get 20 fps when I have the game full screen, but I get 30+ when its like 640x480.
My dual core on an onboard Nvidia 6150 with 2 gigs of ram can easily run 3 bots simultaneously without much issue. Moral of the story for multiple bots, get a multi-core processor, 4GB+ RAM, and shrink your windows down.
I use this instead of my main machine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167020
I didn't buy it specifically for botting, I poached it when I replaced my media PC, and it works. I think when I bought it, it cost like $300. The key is once you have the bots running shrink the window as small as you possibly can. Look at the bossland youtube video and see how small those windows are. I can barely get 20 fps when I have the game full screen, but I get 30+ when its like 640x480.
My dual core on an onboard Nvidia 6150 with 2 gigs of ram can easily run 3 bots simultaneously without much issue. Moral of the story for multiple bots, get a multi-core processor, 4GB+ RAM, and shrink your windows down.