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In response to Raphum's post on the closed status thread

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Raphum said:
Status Update as of 09:54 UTC 13.06.2013

Well, its time to open secret doors. Blizzard has stepped up detection in a big way since the 5.3 patch. We have been investigating their activity on detection and taking our time to make sure we got everything right.

We didn't want to go public about this, because we thought they were targeting us directly. However, our latest finds shows that their new detection may affect other bots/tools. Therefore we highly suggest our community to not use any tools/hacks for WoW unless they have some kind of tripwire protection. You may forward the authors to us in case they need any assistance with the new detection methods.

We have our tripwire protection extended for the new detection and we've been providing protection through the auth servers since patch 5.3. We mostly covered their new detection attempts and will probably do a beta release today or tomorrow.

All the hate about delayed releases, I hope you guys understand why we delayed our 5.3 release and this hotfix release now.
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Courteous, respectful, and transparent. Bravo! The moderators of this forum should take pointers from you, because they are an invocation of Godwin's Law waiting to happen. I get that some of the people around here get pretty unbearable at times, but you sir are a class act. Thank you very much for this.
 
Whats the tripwire stuff he is talking about? I tried to Google it but came up with very little. Do we need more protection? The way he worded it make it seem we need some sort of program on top of HB to prevent detection. Am i wrong?
 
My only question is, was the detection client side or server side.
 
IDK if it was transparent. It was a tad cryptic and only after about a month of the HB community crying for answers.
 
Shyoden said:
Who posted this? Who is Raphum? What is a tripwire and how do we get one?
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Not sure.

Never heard of him.

It's something you put at the bottom of your front door when your mother in law comes to visit.

eBay.
 
I saw original post now, ty :).

Still though, how does this affect us and what is this tripwire thing we seem to need to get?

Thanks!
 
You don't need to get anything. The tripwire is code that monitors Blizz's code. If they change their code to look for the bot, it suppossedly triggers the tripwire and shuts down HB's Auth, thus kicking you off the bot. Although in my entire time using HB I have never seen that take place. So it may just be a ghost story.
 
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No the tripwire is real, though it's designed to monitor warden updates, not the client itself. No idea if HB has extended this functionality to more than warden.
The idea is if warden suddenly updates to start scanning memory addresses the bot uses, everyone gets disconnected.

reason we never see it in action is because blizz hasn't used detection on the major bots in years now... they are relying on server side stuff. if it's true they are bringing it back, it's a major worry - big difference between losing an account for running GB2 weeks on end, and losing for trying out Singular on a training dummy for 10 min.
 
Giwin said:
My only question is, was the detection client side or server side.
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The new detection code is WoWclient-side, of course.

We're not going to hack into the Blizzard servers to find out what they're doing over there. :D

cheers,
chinajade
 
Where I come from, nothing is real until there is proof, pictures, videos, dna evidence. Never had much faith in someone claiming something exhist that I can't see.
starl1te said:
No the tripwire is real, though it's designed to monitor warden updates, not the client itself. No idea if HB has extended this functionality to more than warden.
The idea is if warden suddenly updates to start scanning memory addresses the bot uses, everyone gets disconnected.

reason we never see it in action is because blizz hasn't used detection on the major bots in years now... they are relying on server side stuff. if it's true they are bringing it back, it's a major worry - big difference between losing an account for running GB2 weeks on end, and losing for trying out Singular on a training dummy for 10 min.
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There is no server side detections as far as we know. There might be or not. Although, I doubt they would try to detect us via server side methods while they are brutally trying it from the client as its more accurate.
 
raphus said:
There is no server side detections as far as we know. There might be or not. Although, I doubt they would try to detect us via server side methods while they are brutally trying it from the client as its more accurate.
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XDD blizzard goes wild and brutal
 
Thanks for the updates DEVs.

Keep up the good work, which is keeping u safe from the banhammer. =)
 
raphus said:
There is no server side detections as far as we know. There might be or not. Although, I doubt they would try to detect us via server side methods while they are brutally trying it from the client as its more accurate.
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Did this arouse anyone else, in a geeky, creepy sort of way? :)
 
Botanist said:
You don't need to get anything. The tripwire is code that monitors Blizz's code. If they change their code to look for the bot, it suppossedly triggers the tripwire and shuts down HB's Auth, thus kicking you off the bot. Although in my entire time using HB I have never seen that take place. So it may just be a ghost story.
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u from the glider days just like me we know that glider also used tripwire so does honorbuddy. :)
 
raphus said:
There is no server side detections as far as we know. There might be or not. Although, I doubt they would try to detect us via server side methods while they are brutally trying it from the client as its more accurate.
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Long live HonorBuddy
I'm not a programmer , but apart from a gaming enthusiast , some of us are quite skilled in some areas (professionally speaking, now i will not say more because it is the internetz) but anyway i think i speak for everyone in the community we need bots period and we will support you guys in any way that we can .
Those noobs at game companies should l2p . aka this is a democracy not communism :cool:
 
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