Idea to combat low gold prices

[Druid07]

Hi guys, I have a great idea to combat low gold prices currently - don't sell your gold to chinese! Bulk it up - you can use 5$ classic accounts (from black Friday sale) and smuggle all your gold to them - just make sure it has very little visible connection to your bot accounts - in case of (rare) manual investigation by GM. If we all start doing this, the amount of gold chinese have on their bank accounts will eventually drop, causing both private and bulk prices to rise.

Also if you're not completely brain-dead and have 10+ accounts, I highly recommend you go private instead of dealing with chinese. You will always be able to offer lower prices than the resellers - they won't be able to compete!

Also, do a google search on "buy wow gold" (English). Check the prices out. They're selling it for a min of 1.3$ for 10k gold (EU), while buying it for 0.3-0.4$! Stop feeding them.

 

[Anarki]

Yeah I want to know who they are selling for $1.3 per 10k when I can't even get to $0.7 while finding private buyers.

 

[frosticus]

build a website, fake your reviews, sell for $1.3

but the idea does nothing to combat gold dupes. and it only reaches as far as hb. nothing compared to the massive amount of farmers around the globe that use their own software.

 

[qztr]

Wouldn't make that much of a difference tbh.

 

[Jockedejv]

I'm selling for 1.6$ per 10K and i'm able to sell all the gold i get (about 800K per week on each server and im currently selling on 10 servers). I find people in trade chat and earn their trust and then i ask them to refer me to their friends. I have been doing this since cata and i have never gotten banned and i have never been banned on any of my 4 accounts.

I think the reason why i have never gotten banned is because i don't bot and i don't sell to other gold sellers. I do use auto clickers a lot but blizzard has never bothered me about that. i put a lot of work towards being social with my buyers and if they are unsure about anything i take my time to explain things and sometimes i even show them how i'm using my professions and ah to get my gold so that they know its not coming from hacked accounts. Thats the only advice i can give you if you are going to find private buyers.

Of course this style of gold selling probably doesn't fit everyone.

 

[prinnyhater1]

To actually force change on gold prices you would literally have to get gold seller to stop selling and make demand higher then supply.

You stopping or a handful of people stopping gold selling to the chinese companies would only give room for other sellers to jump in. Some one will always be willing to sell cheap as some money is better then zero, or a complete loss in case of bans.

Its not just the sites that pay low, other large buyers lower their prices too with the market. Raid sellers also pay low, (not quite as low as website resellers) but low in comparison to what they charge their customers.

You have to change the entire market to change anything.
You also have to fight blizzards gold price of less then. 0.35 usd per k gold currently on Us servers. why would they buy from you for 0.2 or 0.25 usd per k when they can spend a little more with blizzard and have 0 risk?

 

[Druid07]

\make demand higher then supply.

Or lower supply while demand stays the same. That's what I'm offering.

1. Stop selling to chinese (takes more than 1 person)
2. Chinese start running out of their gold supply (they have tens of millions on every server currently)
3. They have to increase the gold price to stay steady on the supply
4. At the same time you start selling privately and undercut them
5. ???
6. They run out of business, we win!

The only problem is that delivering gold to private buyers takes more time investment and dedication than botting. That is especially true if you have like 30+ accs. You'll spend a lot of your time online delivering the gold. So that may be not be an option for everyone. Regardless I'm selling x2 as much as they offer now, that's obviously still not 1.3$ per 10k, but as I'm not botting that big, it's ok with me.

 

[nooblet]

I'm selling for 1.6$ per 10K and i'm able to sell all the gold i get (about 800K per week on each server and im currently selling on 10 servers). I find people in trade chat and earn their trust and then i ask them to refer me to their friends. I have been doing this since cata and i have never gotten banned and i have never been banned on any of my 4 accounts.

I think the reason why i have never gotten banned is because i don't bot and i don't sell to other gold sellers. I do use auto clickers a lot but blizzard has never bothered me about that. i put a lot of work towards being social with my buyers and if they are unsure about anything i take my time to explain things and sometimes i even show them how i'm using my professions and ah to get my gold so that they know its not coming from hacked accounts. Thats the only advice i can give you if you are going to find private buyers.

Of course this style of gold selling probably doesn't fit everyone.

You don't bot?

Why are you here again?

 

[Qishy]

You don't bot?

Why are you here again?

He's a liar

 

[Anarki]

He's a liar

Yeah, a lot of people on this forum are full of shit. I have hard proof (from people they buy profiles from) that some of those "successfull 15 - 20 botters" are in fact running 2-4 bots. They just talk shit.

 

[pimpampum]

Yeah, a lot of people on this forum are full of shit. I have hard proof (from people they buy profiles from) that some of those "successfull 15 - 20 botters" are in fact running 2-4 bots. They just talk shit.

Absolutely true, imho.

Easy to identify them. They talk like their word was the second coming, and then seem to have no clue about the inner aspects of real multibotting. I don't understand what's their point or who are they trying to impress.

Wannabes.

 

[frosticus]

the ones that bother me the most are the ones 'im doing an experiment with this batch of 3 bots to see if botting is safe again.'

 

[Jockedejv]

You don't bot?

Why are you here again?

Well i'm mostly here to spot ban waves, if there is a ban wave i can buy a lot of ores cheap before the prices goes up and then i sit on the gems untill the prices goes up to "none botting standards", Spotting a ban wave from players reporting bans instead of noticing it by AH prices going up can net me a rather big profit. And doing this also prevents me from going dry on ores/gems during the ban wave.

 

[EleGiggle]

Well i'm mostly here to spot ban waves, if there is a ban wave i can buy a lot of ores cheap before the prices goes up and then i sit on the gems untill the prices goes up to "none botting standards", Spotting a ban wave from players reporting bans instead of noticing it by AH prices going up can net me a rather big profit. And doing this also prevents me from going dry on ores/gems during the ban wave.

So basically a leech.

 

[Jockedejv]

Its not like i'm hoping for ban waves, and if i can get something out of it why wouldn't i?

 

[Anarki]

I don't think what you're doing is worth doing. Get a bot man, you will end up with more ore and herbs you ever will need, and it won't risk your main account if you're smart.
Heck, I could do with what you're doing. I even botted a couple of milion gold on my mid sized realm, bought ALL fjarnskaggl from the AH and then set up my own price to see if that would work. Nope. I needed to be constantly online monitoring AH and buying/reselling herbs, else they just piled up lower and lower until they got to the original price. I lost like 500k gold there, but knowledge has no price

 

[frosticus]

take those herbs, convert into a new product and rule a smaller market.

 

[Jockedejv]

I don't think what you're doing is worth doing. Get a bot man, you will end up with more ore and herbs you ever will need, and it won't risk your main account if you're smart.
Heck, I could do with what you're doing. I even botted a couple of milion gold on my mid sized realm, bought ALL fjarnskaggl from the AH and then set up my own price to see if that would work. Nope. I needed to be constantly online monitoring AH and buying/reselling herbs, else they just piled up lower and lower until they got to the original price. I lost like 500k gold there, but knowledge has no price

Well it depends on how much you think your time is worth i guess, but this side income allows me to only work half time, i get something out of almost all my afk time since i'm more or less always prospecting(i can only do it on 4 servers at a time). by far the most time consuming procces is finding people to craft gems for me, but that is something i do at the same time as i'm resposting auctions.

How much felslate and leystone do you estimate that one bot can bring in per 24H?

 

[Anarki]

Well it depends on how much you think your time is worth i guess, but this side income allows me to only work half time, i get something out of almost all my afk time since i'm more or less always prospecting(i can only do it on 4 servers at a time). by far the most time consuming procces is finding people to craft gems for me, but that is something i do at the same time as i'm resposting auctions.

How much felslate and leystone do you estimate that one bot can bring in per 24H?

I don't know. I don't bot ore. Maybe someone else can help you with that question.

 

[frosticus]

take an hour, set up a professionbuddy profile and you can automate buying/selling/prospecting and you are down to 2hr max maintenance per client per day.