I guess i pissed off Blizzard this time.

[dzipal]

So, basically what titlle says:

I just got my 3x bots banned, 3x accounts suspended ( 2 traders and 1 safe account) and 3x guilds dismissed with total of 5.2mil few minutes ago.

Ok, got my popcorns, excuses for wall of text and.. let me tell you My story:

I had set of 7 accounts running, farming @ suramar. (3days old).1stPC (3x realm A), 2nd PC(2x realm B, 2x realm C). Had 3 gbanks aswell, for each realm.

Along with bots i created 2 traders and 1 safe account and made him GMaster.
2 trader accounts were just bunch of lvl 1's who would trade people or put stuff to AH with my herbs. Both fresh battlenets.
Safe account was created at my gf place, using fresh battlenet. He was invited to both 3 guilds on 3 realms then never logged back. didnt have any asociasion with me as botter or my bots.

My guilds were created by my 1 trader . It gathered signatures out of random people for cash. There were no my own accounts signing each others guild.

Today, at ~ 17 i stopped my realm_A 3 bots and hsed them to dalaran. i gett disconnected on all of them instantly after that. They were all banned. *F*ck, i better deposit mats from my other realms* i though. Then i HSed rest of my bots to dalaran, deposited mats to gbanks. The second i closed last bots Gbank - i got this message :
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I was shocked at that point, it seems they were watching my reaction and actions after first 3 bots got smacked down.
Rest 4 bots are still active, but i dont think they will survive the night. just /dance'd and /clap'ed talked to noone via game chat and logged those 4 off.

but Lets continue:

/Last time i got my bots banned gbank was erased too, i just havnt see the notification. all gbank was sent to safe char./

So im shocked, mad and like wtf just happened. I click on regular wow.exe to hoplessly log in my safe char and hopefully to see all items at my mail like before. i didnt even finish to type my username/password and i get notification via my phone about new email from blizzard. (My safe account was created on my regular email, that i use for phone bills/ job things/ car forums etc. so it never been assotiated with wow before, just created starter account then applied code to the new one. so it became #wow2.) It was closed. Not game copy but whole battle.net account

Battle.net Account: xxxx
BattleTag: xxxx#xxx
Game: World of Warcraft

Action(s) Taken:
Account Suspended


Violation: Cheating

Your fellow players reported you for cheating. This includes actions like botting, and exploiting game mechanics.


Thing is : its impossible that i got reported as all i did was get guild invites from myself while standing at senjin village or somthing. I never attached hb or whatever to traders or safe account. I even didnt touch my safe account from my place as it was created/ invited at my gfs place.

So heres where my story ends.

I wont complain, i botted and i got punished, have no idea how, but its is how it is.

It was fun guys, but i got b*tchslapped in the face this time too hard im not able to stand up with these tricks again

Botted from late september till 12-05, earned about 2.2k euro. and -200euro from the last attempt.

Bots were gathering mainly, 1 bot would usually yeld about 300-400k a day. 18-24k/hour (checked that 3 or 4 days before) by using private profile.
Would like to thank for buddy team for making 100-110 and other great profiles.


Thanks for your time reading this novel, take care.

 

[blewsclewsnews]

Yup, you obviously pissed some GM off.

For the average HB user, this is NOT normal banning activities. This has to be a full on investigation by a GM.

But it does go to show that if they do end up investigating your accounts, you very well may end losing everything.

 

[Frayman]

It could however prove to be the new NORM regarding the future direction Blizzard is taking , or it might not be.

Thanks for your story Dzipal

 

[dzipal]

Thing is, they assumed my safe char was involved into this, as it had no connection to my botting activities at all.
Same went last time when my friend, who was buying my herbs lost his 13yrs old account with 2years of gametime bought , and 12m in cash. From my perspective these bans were not 100% sure by them only guessed?
What if my gf or any other friend decided to play wow. Then i would ask him or her to join my guild. And by saying yes she or he would lose account without knowing anything.
And they dont even let to chat with them anymore via mail. You get auto replied message saying to f*ck off nicelly.

 

[Kain85]

I think this is a GM manual investgation based on reports. Maybe AH activity, maybe just through your bots. I am sorry, but most ppl are not even smart enough to remove this stupid Artisan title, same as not putting 1 billion stacks of herbs on AH at one time.

 

[blewsclewsnews]

thing is, they assumed my safe char was involved into this, as it had no connection to my botting activities at all. Same went last time when my friend, who was buying my herbs lost his 13yrs old account with 2years of gametime bought , and 12m in cash. From my perspective these bans were not 100% sure by them only guessed?. And they dont even let neither me or my RIP friend chat with them anymore. You get auto replied message saying to f*ck off nicelly.

The big thing you have to remember is that Blizz can ban you at any time for any reason they see fit, nor do they need to provide you with any evidence they've found.

With that being said, the mere association to your other botting accounts, regardless of how innocent the activities may be on your safe account were was enough for them to ban you. Your friends were also directly benefiting from your botting activities, which is a violation of the rules as well. If you discussed the trading of the herbs in game, which I'm not saying you did or didn't, they had the only evidence they needed to ban your friends as well.

Blizz clearly knows you're a serial botter. If removing every single one of your accounts is what blizz considers "what it takes" to teach you a lesson, they'll probably ban everyone that benefited from your accounts at this point.

 

[dzipal]

I had private buyers 99% of my money was gained from them, i rarelly even shout on chat as i always had demand. On AH i listed only boe epics and mats like felworth etc, few stacks a week, so that was not the case

 

[blewsclewsnews]

I had private buyers 99% of my money was gained from them, i rarelly even shout on chat as i always had demand. On AH i listed only boe epics and mats like felworth etc, few stacks a week, so that was not the case

So how did you get your private buyers? My guess was by advertising in trade chat and then having discussions with them either through whispers or a separate channel...Either way, you provided blizz any evidence they needed to ban yours and your buyer's account....Not that they need any evidence to ban your accounts anyways.

 

[dzipal]

The big thing you have to remember is that Blizz can ban you at any time for any reason they see fit, nor do they need to provide you with any evidence they've found.

With that being said, the mere association to your other botting accounts, regardless of how innocent the activities may be on your safe account were was enough for them to ban you. Your friends were also directly benefiting from your botting activities, which is a violation of the rules as well. If you discussed the trading of the herbs in game, which I'm not saying you did or didn't, they had the only evidence they needed to ban your friends as well.

Blizz clearly knows you're a serial botter. If removing every single one of your accounts is what blizz considers "what it takes" to teach you a lesson, they'll probably ban everyone that benefited from your accounts at this point.

How would my gf benefit from me at this point if she would decide to play.She didnt even know im botting or what the hell that is

 

[dzipal]

So how did you get your private buyers? My guess was by advertising in trade chat and then having discussions with them either through whispers or a separate channel...Either way, you provided blizz any evidence they needed to ban yours and your buyer's account....Not that they need any evidence to ban your accounts anyways.

I got them month or so ago, if i would see he is buying in bulks and doing that daily, i would invite him to discord or skype to chat further, never did any of that ingame chat.
Then again, it was month ago. These days it would usually look like this : *buyer asks for materials @ skype, i log in, buyer greets me few minutes later and asks if i got any materials and etc

 

[blewsclewsnews]

How would my gf benefit from me at this point if she would decide to play.She didnt even know im botting or what the hell that is

What does your girlfriend have to do with this discussion at all? Is your girlfriend benefiting from your accounts? Did you trade your girlfriend herbs? Did you give her gold?

If you answer yes to those questions, then yes, she very well could be banned as she was directly benefiting from your botting activities.

You're confusing association with direct benefit. One means absolutely nothing, the other is a violation of the rules.

 

[gamer427]

How would my gf benefit from me at this point if she would decide to play.She didnt even know im botting or what the hell that is

Thing is though, they are all your accounts no matter how you look at it. Having 1-2 accounts join and then never login again doesn't justify your reasoning. If it was a large guild 50+ all with different users then it would be a different story. (and I highly doubt they would ban that account since there was no interaction) - you were the owner of the guild and hence the reason why they disbanded it.

 

[dzipal]

What does your girlfriend have to do with this discussion at all? Is your girlfriend benefiting from your accounts? Did you trade your girlfriend herbs? Did you give her gold?

If you answer yes to those questions, then yes, she very well could be banned as she was directly benefiting from your botting activities.

You're confusing association with direct benefit. One means absolutely nothing, the other is a violation of the rules.

I answered no to all these questions. I just created safe acc at her place, thats it, well also made her char a gm. I just assume i could have asked any another player to be my gm and that would be the same thing. Used IF as what if that acc was actually played by her. Sorry for making this hard to understand, trying my best lol

 

[dzipal]

Thing is though, they are all your accounts no matter how you look at it. Having 1-2 accounts join and then never login again doesn't justify your reasoning. If it was a large guild 50+ all with different users then it would be a different story. (and I highly doubt they would ban that account since there was no interaction) - you were the owner of the guild and hence the reason why they disbanded it.

I would say Not the reason to suspend innocent acc. But whatever let it be your and blizzards way

 

[Ghostspike0]

Were you selling gold in the millions?

 

[botman25000]

Awesome Man! Good work. I hope this happens to me some day. I don't think it will because I am using much more sustainable measures now. The fact that you were able to draw such a thorough manual investigation says alot. Was it a low pop server? I have a theory that botting on a large pop newbie server is the safest way to bot. I don't think blizz can monitor every user at all times, they have to select who they scan and as long as you don't get on the scan list you are ok until they do the mass ban waves every 6 months or every 2 weeks or whenever those go out. For me, if I can make it 1 week with a bot it has more than paid for itself including its replacement cost. By the way I have only been botting for a couple months and have only about a dozen bans and have made around 15 million gold sold for average of .10 to chinese using non botted account running on same PC as bot and have never had that trading account messed with nor have I had items removed. I love selling those dirty materials that were farmed by an already banned bot.

 

[socrates3]

Botted from late september till 12-05, earned about 2.2k euro. and -200euro from the last attempt.

not surprising you got banned then.

 

[blewsclewsnews]

I answered no to all these questions. I just created safe acc at her place, thats it, well also made her char a gm. I just assume i could have asked any another player to be my gm and that would be the same thing. Used IF as what if that acc was actually played by her. Sorry for making this hard to understand, trying my best lol

If she's the GM and she's either withdrawing mats or gold, even in the form of repairs, she's directly benefiting from your botting activities....So yes, there is a direct benefit there, even if it's small.

If they are really doing that thorough of an investigation, if the GM is really that salty to you, your girlfriend's account could be in danger. I'm not saying it is or isn't, but the association is now moved to direct benefit.

 

[dzipal]

If she's the GM and she's either withdrawing mats or gold, even in the form of repairs, she's directly benefiting from your botting activities....So yes, there is a direct benefit there, even if it's small.

If they are really doing that thorough of an investigation, if the GM is really that salty to you, your girlfriend's account could be in danger. I'm not saying it is or isn't, but the association is now moved to direct benefit.

None of above, not even logging in after creation and becoming gm

 

[dzipal]

Both three were high pop, i got the lesson from botting at low pops those usually have lower demand than i can offer which results in gold price drop or high stocks at gbank waiting for demand price sales. For me bot pays off after 3-4 days. 1 for leveling and another 2 of farming. I was trading via guild bank, u traded via regular trades? I was suprised they watched that deep. Not much left to beat me, friend!