I got Money, I need help for a new Rig Please

[asdasdasd01]

Hello, i can spend around 1-1.5k $ to get a new rig. I already have a ASUS GeForce GTX 970 TURBO OC 4GB DDR5 256-bit unboxed bought recently so the 1-1.5k $ is for the other components.
Can you guys help me with what i need to buy?I want to run as many bots as possible.

 

[PalBuddy]

Hello, i can spend around 1-1.5k $ to get a new rig. I already have a ASUS GeForce GTX 970 TURBO OC 4GB DDR5 256-bit unboxed bought recently so the 1-1.5k $ is for the other components.
Can you guys help me with what i need to buy?I want to run as many bots as possible.

From the info I have gathered, if you want to build a path of exile bot box you're going to need CPU power. Buying a dual cpu xeon motherboard will be your best bet. You can find parts to old servers floating around ebay and stuff. The more cores the better.

You can get something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pai...746828?hash=item2105a6ee4c:g:8H8AAOSwyTZUW87I. 4 core cpu for $21, get 2 of them, and like $35-$55 motherboard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-...033172?hash=item235e8b2714:g:Y3IAAOSwxN5WZ5EM 8 core cpu, but you might be able to afford 2 8 core cpu's or 6 core cpu's. More the merrier, get 16-32gb of ram too if ur gonna run a ton of VM's.

You may also consider this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-...821747?hash=item2109972773:g:O9oAAOSweuxWTmt-

Here is an 8 core cpu you can snag 4 of that just costs $35 each
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-...071160?hash=item43e88889f8:g:xwsAAOSwpRRWnqpG

Here's 32gb worth of RAM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32GB-4X8GB-...628119?hash=item257e78ae57:g:U7kAAOxyHE5RpPoF

Boom $810 spent for 32 cores, and 32gb of RAM; that's like 16 bots using 2 cpu and 2gb of ram each.

Chassy and psu's $315
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-...641088?hash=item5b1f72cc80:g:05UAAOSw5dNWoVl-

Now you got it all housed for $1125. You can get a 1tb SSD and call it a day

If you want to run bots other than PoE then your bottleneck might not be your cpu, but rather your GPU (honorbuddy). So it may be more beneficial to get another GPU if you want to play games AND bot multiple games at the same time without the use of VM's.

It is imperative that you double check the compatibility of everything I have posted. I sorta just threw this together sort of checking stuff, you may be able to just find a used server you can buy.

 

[uupiits]

id go with 2x 8core PC`s if botting is your goal, but other than that dual xeons.
On guy above, ram would most likely be bottleneck, 64gb should do, and those xeons would lose to a single 5690

 

[toNyx]

id go with 2x 8core PC`s if botting is your goal, but other than that dual xeons.
On guy above, ram would most likely be bottleneck, 64gb should do, and those xeons would lose to a single 5690

Depends how many bots he plan to run, 32gb can run hmmmm, I would say up to 25 bots somehow.

And the price of a x5690 is not really the same

 

[uupiits]

Depends how many bots he plan to run, 32gb can run hmmmm, I would say up to 25 bots somehow.

And the price of a x5690 is not really the same

16gb gives me trouble with anything more than 5 bots if running for long period of time, poe/eb crashing, with VM`s.
Well not 5690 vs Xeon L7555 budget wise, but 5690 vs budget he got. those xeons might pull 4-5 bots each

 

[DontBeAfraid]

Depends how many bots he plan to run, 32gb can run hmmmm, I would say up to 25 bots somehow.

how? by asigning just 1.5gb to each vm and go with the page file on ssds?

 

[toNyx]

how? by asigning just 1.5gb to each vm and go with the page file on ssds?

By being smart. each of my bot spends 800mb client+bot in a long run.
10 bots sort of cap my i7 well it's a crap old i7 tho. But I still have ram. *S A D B O Y Z*

One does not simply use VMs

 

[DontBeAfraid]

By being smart. each of my bot spends 800mb client+bot in a long run.
10 bots sort of cap my i7 well it's a crap old i7 tho. But I still have ram. *S A D B O Y Z*

One does not simply use VMs

these friday morning riddles ... zZZZZzz
it's not like ram is bottlenecking me anyways, but ill think about it. thx.. ^^

 

[StrongBG]

By being smart. each of my bot spends 800mb client+bot in a long run.
10 bots sort of cap my i7 well it's a crap old i7 tho. But I still have ram. *S A D B O Y Z*

One does not simply use VMs

My poe runs with 320-350 ram bot additional 300.Thats on vmware.My non vmware bot is taking up to 2gb ram...I limit my vmwares to 1gb ram and i dont have any problems.Each vmware in addition is taking up to 800mb ram if i let them run for more than 24h+.

 

[LajtStyle]

I've seen there are 2 versions of Xeon E5-2670
SR0H8 and SR0KX
What is the difference?

 

[PalBuddy]

id go with 2x 8core PC`s if botting is your goal, but other than that dual xeons.
On guy above, ram would most likely be bottleneck, 64gb should do, and those xeons would lose to a single 5690

So you're saying that a single cpu running 6 true cores at 3.46 ghz beats 32 true cores running at 1.88 ghz ea for the tasks only relevant to this bot? I have a hard time believing that you could get more than 6 bots in VM's running on a single 5690

16gb gives me trouble with anything more than 5 bots if running for long period of time, poe/eb crashing, with VM`s.
Well not 5690 vs Xeon L7555 budget wise, but 5690 vs budget he got. those xeons might pull 4-5 bots each

I was planning on 4 each cpu, and 4 CPU's total. Leading to 16 bots on one machine.

But idk! Maybe this slapped together server pc can't run 15 vm's and 16 clients like I thought it could, I didn't really put much effort in this lol.

How about this?

Mobo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271989501273 ($275) - 2x Socket G34 board. Has two PCIe x16 lanes for your GPU and your sound card.
CPUs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141850780083 ($48 each)
CPU coolers: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400694036629 ($32.11 each)
Memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111714025897 ($81.69)
Case+PSU: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311422674149 ($128.16)

Build total is 645.07. He could buy two of these, and a second gpu and still be under budget. That is 64 TRUE cores and 64 gb of RAM guys!

 

[uupiits]

So you're saying that a single cpu running 6 true cores at 3.46 ghz beats 32 true cores running at 1.88 ghz ea for the tasks only relevant to this bot? I have a hard time believing that you could get more than 6 bots in VM's running on a single 5690



I was planning on 4 each cpu, and 4 CPU's total. Leading to 16 bots on one machine.

But idk! Maybe this slapped together server pc can't run 15 vm's and 16 clients like I thought it could, I didn't really put much effort in this lol.

How about this?

Mobo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271989501273 ($275) - 2x Socket G34 board. Has two PCIe x16 lanes for your GPU and your sound card.
CPUs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141850780083 ($48 each)
CPU coolers: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400694036629 ($32.11 each)
Memory: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111714025897 ($81.69)
Case+PSU: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311422674149 ($128.16)

Build total is 645.07. He could buy two of these, and a second gpu and still be under budget. That is 64 TRUE cores and 64 gb of RAM guys!

a cpu that`s from 2010 - yes

 

[PalBuddy]

a cpu that`s from 2010 - yes

Not sure how scientific that comment is. As far as the min requirements for PoE 2 cores form the CPU I chose should be ample to run it and a bot. Not really sure how your single 6 core cpu could out perform 32 cores even if your clock speed is higher. As far as VM's and PoE Botting is concerned I had thought quantity > quality. Again though, can your single 6 core cpu pilot more than 6 bots? Can it even pilot 6 bots?

 

[toNyx]

a cpu that`s from 2010 - yes

That's not because it's old that it's bad, look at your mom *BAM, SHOTS FIRED!* jk bro, i love you.

Well, it's 2011 in fact, and the fact it has L3 cache makes it decent for botting a crapshit game without textures. The only downside is the power consumption.
Tbh, if I had to buy another RIG I would give this a shot. could run pretty nicely.

 

[PalBuddy]

That's not because it's old that it's bad, look at your mom *BAM, SHOTS FIRED!* jk bro, i love you.

Well, it's 2011 in fact, and the fact it has L3 cache makes it decent for botting a crapshit game without textures. The only downside is the power consumption.
Tbh, if I had to buy another RIG I would give this a shot. could run pretty nicely.

Whatcha think about AMD OPTERON 16 CORE PROCESSOR 6276 2.30GHZ? Those are suuuuuuuuuuuuper cheap atm. But I had thought intel was better for running VM's; but 16 cores for <$50 man.

 

[toNyx]

Whatcha think about AMD OPTERON 16 CORE PROCESSOR 6276 2.30GHZ? Those are suuuuuuuuuuuuper cheap atm. But I had thought intel was better for running VM's; but 16 cores for <$50 man.

Intel is definitely better for virtualization. but AMD works too, never had one of those in my hands but if I had, I would screw the fuck out of it

 

[PalBuddy]

Intel is definitely better for virtualization. but AMD works too, never had one of those in my hands but if I had, I would screw the fuck out of it

My favorite part of this thread is the spam name of OP, double post by OP, and lack of any comments from OP.

 

[botelho]

Im running 10 VMs/Bots using a 4790k without oc. Can only imagine what a good dual xeon setup can run.

 

[PalBuddy]

wrong cpu lol edited

There's a xeon x5960 and a i7-5960x. The xeon is 6 cores and was what I was referring to, the 5960x is 8 cores and I could see it running maybe 8 bots; but it's like $1k for just the cpu. I'm still fairly certain that 32 cores at 1.88 ghz could still power more bots than a single i7-5960x could.

 

[botelho]

There's a xeon x5960 and a i7-5960x. The xeon is 6 cores and was what I was referring to, the 5960x is 8 cores and I could see it running maybe 8 bots; but it's like $1k for just the cpu. I'm still fairly certain that 32 cores at 1.88 ghz could still power more bots than a single i7-5960x could.

Yeah I notice I was confusing the chips, about that I am running 10 using a 4790k. VMs doenst get exclusive use of the cores, so a single physical core will do the work for multiple VMs despite how u setup the VMs.