how to reset your pc so blizz cannot identify you?

[Jacan]

does anyone know how to reset your pc components so blizzard has nothing to identify you to previous banned accounts? because apparently once they find out your strictly exploitative they will not give any future accounts a 2nd chance, not even vanilla accounts with lvl 1s that havent even moved out the starting zone lol.. also can they use the router to identify you too somehow?

 

[wownerds]

You can change your Mac Address: Changing MAC under Windows 7 - Microsoft Answers

 

[Jacan]

i know but this post Blizzard Loves Botters | Digital Castration says they can use alot more then your mac address, i just need to make sure i get everything before i open any new accounts. thanks for the link, thats a start. i should probably reformat too as well just to be safe.
or an alternate method would be to find a way to back charge them for the expansions and game time everytime they ban you within 45-60 days.. i bet thats what the chinese do.. i guess i could make a new paypal and buy all the crap directly from blizzard and if they ban within 2 months then dispute it lol?

 

[Jacan]

how much would that cost?

 

[thephoenix25]

Any advice I give is purely speculative, but if I were trying to hide my identity from blizz.

IP
If you use a static ip change it or if you plan to regularily abuse the economy use a tunnel.
If you use a dynamic ip, a simple ipconfig /flushdns should suffice

MAC
The most obvious part of your hardware they can see is your network card (I think, please correct me if wrong). Each component has a unique ID. The way I understand it is, the combination of your hardware IDs is a way to identify your computer. Change one! Though it is more troublesome, if I wanted not to be identified, I'd change the motherboard.

Format
Not really essensial, but is good practice if changing the mother board. Blizz are not legally allowd to scan your computer for personal info. This includes software currently running, personal documents/projects/software, browser history, etc.

Payment
This on is a no brainer. 20 accounts bought with the same credit card running on the same pc(s), ip, following similar login/logout patterns is a bit of a give away.

 

[Jacan]

do you think i only need to change 1 id with my pc to throw them off? or all ids they can possibly get? bossland should know something about this i cant have them ban all my accounts in the future on all pcs just bcuz the pcs were linked in the past.

 

[thephoenix25]

Again, just my speculations.

MAC IDs alone are not enough to identify the user of the computer. For example, you as an innocent player of the game visit me and log into wow using my hardcore botting computer. There is no way to determin whether your innocent account is one of mine or not. The likely result is that it will be flagged as one of my hardcore accounts. This imo is why a lot of possitive bans/suspensions are overturned. There is just not enough proof.

Turn that scenario around. I as a hardcore botter, visit you as an inoccent player and log into one of my accounts. There is no way to tell that you don't own my account, so flagging your computer/ip would again be useless.

Again this is just my speculations. Without breaking the law, there isn't much Blizz can do to identify confidently who owns an account and remove them from the game. The only sure way is by detection of memory manipulations, which of course is indiscriminate, so again, no individual(s) can be identified. Just a game of cat and mouse.
Only by putting all the evidence together can they make an "educated" guess at who is responcible for each account.

Honestly, if you feel you are flagged/targeted. Buy a cheep pc, switch isp, buy accounts with cash and bot smart.

 

[Croga]

If you use a dynamic ip, a simple ipconfig /flushdns should suffice

/flushdns will empty your DNS cache, it doesn't do *anything* to your IP. Also; since you're almost always behind a router you will never be able to change your IP using IPCONFIG. Also also; since even dynamic IPs usually have a lease of at least a couple of days, you won't be able to change your IP short of going completely offline for a couple of days ('couple' in this case is usually 30).


Most importantly though:
- MAC address
- NIC hardware ID
- Motherboard signature
- GPU signature
- CPU ID
- HDD/SSD serial number
- Windows registration number

Basically; if you want to "reset your PC" you'll have to:
- Replace all the hardware on your system (except maybe memory, I'm not sure)
- Use a different Windows registration number (so buy a new Windows)
- start using a VPN
- Only pay WoW using gamecards bought online, as far away as possible and preferably using multiple different stores

Or you could just do what 99% of the botting community does: be careful.

 

[thephoenix25]

/flushdns will empty your DNS cache, it doesn't do *anything* to your IP. Also; since you're almost always behind a router you will never be able to change your IP using IPCONFIG. Also also; since even dynamic IPs usually have a lease of at least a couple of days, you won't be able to change your IP short of going completely offline for a couple of days ('couple' in this case is usually 30).

Thank you for correcting me. I must admit my /flushdns post was made whilst at work, so I didn't have my usual resources available, though I thought /flushdns had the same effect. I usually use a batch file containing :

ipconfig
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew

I thought this assigns you with a new dynamic ip from your isp?

I've tested it with the usual "online what is my ip" sites with a positive visible change of ip. Perhaps I am out of my depth in this subject.

 

[primo]

buy a new one

 

[Croga]

Thank you for correcting me. I must admit my /flushdns post was made whilst at work, so I didn't have my usual resources available, though I thought /flushdns had the same effect. I usually use a batch file containing :
ipconfig
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
I thought this assigns you with a new dynamic ip from your isp?
I've tested it with the usual "online what is my ip" sites with a positive visible change of ip. Perhaps I am out of my depth in this subject.

If you're behind a router it will only change your internal IP, not the IP that identifies you on the internet.
If you have an IP lease of more then a second or two, it will simply return to you the old IP.

All in all, not a very useful way to change IPs for about 90% of the people on the internet.

 

[thephoenix25]

If you're behind a router it will only change your internal IP, not the IP that identifies you on the internet.
If you have an IP lease of more then a second or two, it will simply return to you the old IP.

All in all, not a very useful way to change IPs for about 90% of the people on the internet.

Thank you for explaining that to me (networking has never been a strong subject of mine). I myself am normally hard-wired without a router which I now understand is why this works for me.

 

[Jacan]

sounds alot easier to just make a paypal account and use them to get your money back?
I figured i was botting smart, i mean i made my own profiles, i put in blackspots everytime i got stuck.. i only botted 2-4 hours a day because i only sold gear and flasks. I used shutup and logmeout.. i dont know what else i could have done.
I only got 1 negative whisper the entire time from a gook the day before i got banned "i hate druid..." but i was nice to him and even logged out. He could have reported me.

 

[thephoenix25]

If everything you have said is 100% truth... You've had some bad luck

It's up to you, but I don't think the chargeback paypal thing is a great idea. I wouldn't want to try to rip off a multi-million company for a few ?100 accounts. Imo, that is asking for trouble.

It may be usefull to focus on why you got caught? Friends, family, guilds, players you often play with. If you are getting repeatably stung and you arn't running a "massive" opperation. There is a good chance there might be some other factors involved.

example :
I've used the same credit card, same name, same computer, same ip on multiple accounts of which some were banned some wearn't. Some are still active today. (I don't do that anymore though)

Find the cause -> establish a solution -> implement the solution -> protect solution from the cause

Blanket bans for ip, mac, name, credit card don't generally seem to Blizz's style.

 

[lii]

As far as IP goes, if you have a dynamic connection, just reset your router. Your ISP will assign you a new IP. It's really quite simple.