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How blizzard detects bots

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chazz93

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after discusing with account/tech support they released some information on how they detect wether or not your botting.

they search what was running on your RAM during the report. this means say your using a bot for another game and you playing wow by yourself. if that bot is a registered "cheat" and can be altered for the use for wow, you will be banned. this also means if you have 2+ accounts and are botting on an account while you say raid on your main account. if your botted account gets reported and checked they will see that another account is active on you IP adress and investigate it aswell and see that the "cheating program" is active / running in the background and result in both accounts being banned...... this being said be carefull botting, just because your not botting on your main account doesnt mean it cant be banned.
 
chazz90210 said:
after discusing with account/tech support they released some information on how they detect wether or not your botting.

they search what was running on your RAM during the report. this means say your using a bot for another game and you playing wow by yourself. if that bot is a registered "cheat" and can be altered for the use for wow, you will be banned. this also means if you have 2+ accounts and are botting on an account while you say raid on your main account. if your botted account gets reported and checked they will see that another account is active on you IP adress and investigate it aswell and see that the "cheating program" is active / running in the background and result in both accounts being banned...... this being said be carefull botting, just because your not botting on your main account doesnt mean it cant be banned.
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screen or didnt happend.
 
Hard to believe, blizzard would never tell customers that they make a criminal act... :D
 
Apoc said:
Ok, so, I'm honestly getting a bit tired of replying to threads like these. (Please, go search for other warden related posts by me, MaiN, Nesox, Hawker, or any other developer here...)

Warden will not reach out of it's own process any more. (Scan.dll does this in WoW to catch stuff like CheatEngine, etc. Nothing too fancy, nor worth worrying about) They can't read our window titles, as we're not "in" the game process. (See: warden doesn't leave the game proc)

Warden does do module hash scans. Yes. But only for modules loaded in the game. We don't load any in the game, so those scans are completely pointless to us.

Warden does driver hash scans as well. Nope, we don't touch kernel level stuff (drivers). So again, scans are completely pointless.

Warden does not check the current process list for any scanning. (They check it, but don't do anything "detection" related with it. It's just a requirement to do some other scans.)


So, to shut down all 4 of your suggestions:


Warden doesn't do anything with the process list. So this isn't necessary. (We do have full support for renaming the exe, and our built-in updater will even rename updates to whatever you named your exe to) Feel free to rename. (This changes the process name as well btw)


... we do. For the exception of some that we can't (due to .NET restrictions on managed/native code) We leave other libs out as they can be updated without us needing to push a full update. Plus, they are all widely-used libraries, so there's no harm in leaving them by themselves.


The windows registry is the devil! (It's being used less and less, and according to MS, will be removed in an OS in the not-too-far future.)


...what? I assume you mean modify the exe so that the checksum changes and can't be detected by warden's scans? If so; see my statements about warden not leaving the game's process.[/COLOR]
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chazz90210 said:
after discusing with account/tech support they released some information on how they detect wether or not your botting.

they search what was running on your RAM during the report. this means say your using a bot for another game and you playing wow by yourself. if that bot is a registered "cheat" and can be altered for the use for wow, you will be banned. this also means if you have 2+ accounts and are botting on an account while you say raid on your main account. if your botted account gets reported and checked they will see that another account is active on you IP adress and investigate it aswell and see that the "cheating program" is active / running in the background and result in both accounts being banned...... this being said be carefull botting, just because your not botting on your main account doesnt mean it cant be banned.
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This was as i heard once a long time ago, but is forbidden by law, Blizzard has no right what so ever to scan your computer, this is illegal.
 
chazz90210 said:
after discusing with account/tech support they released some information on how they detect wether or not your botting.

they search what was running on your RAM during the report. this means say your using a bot for another game and you playing wow by yourself. if that bot is a registered "cheat" and can be altered for the use for wow, you will be banned. this also means if you have 2+ accounts and are botting on an account while you say raid on your main account. if your botted account gets reported and checked they will see that another account is active on you IP adress and investigate it aswell and see that the "cheating program" is active / running in the background and result in both accounts being banned...... this being said be carefull botting, just because your not botting on your main account doesnt mean it cant be banned.
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funny 3 posts, + late join date.
 
Chimpers said:
No they aren't. Read your EULA again bud.
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Just because they have it in there, doesn't mean they can get away with it.
In a pure legal sense, yea they could, but won't, and haven't.

That'd be like selling you a piece of software and having my own custom code to steal information from your computer, and having it hidden somewhere deep in the EULA/TOS that I can send any information from your PC to mine.
Legally (if worded correctly) everything is there to have me get away with it, but that doesn't mean it'll hold up in court.

-Panda
 
Chimpers said:
No they aren't. Read your EULA again bud.
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You cannot Agree to give up certain rights. Ever. Period. Not possible. No matter how tricky and how smart the lawyers that wrote Blizzards EULA are, there is no way, period, that a user could agree to allow Blizzard to scan their computers at will. Federal law prohibits it.
 
why would i make this up, if you dont believe me call account hel yourself.. i worded my questions wisly as in, " i use this software to record macros for other games blah blah blah, if i have it running on that game while playing wow, will i still get banned even though im not using it on wow?" ....

and they replied with yes
 
chazz90210 said:
why would i make this up, if you dont believe me call account hel yourself.. i worded my questions wisly as in, " i use this software to record macros for other games blah blah blah, if i have it running on that game while playing wow, will i still get banned even though im not using it on wow?" ....

and they replied with yes
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HAHA so you mean they lied, which is legal, about scanning outside of the WoW process, which is ILLEGAL.
 
Look at it this way, If it was true they would of SHUT DOWN HONNOR BUDDY YEARS AGO! NOW GTF OUT AND GO BUY ANOTHER BOT
 
lol this is the funniest topic i ever seen in my life
im a web developer and i've been reading like billions of times that no 1 is allowed to scan ur pc so shut it dude...

wow is not freaking allowed to do it at all...
 
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