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How Blizzard detect Bot. Discussion with a GM

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alexou13

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Hey guys, one of my friend got3 accounts perma banned . The first account was ban one month ago, the two others this weeks. The first was created 5 years agos, the two others 2 weeks agos.
He played on EU. (By the way I am french so apologies for my english)

So after all this bans he had a long talk with a GM (game moderator, dont know if its the good expression in english). Here is the best part of the discussion. I'll do my best for translate in english.
More important part is in Bold

Votre compte World of Warcraft est fermé définitivement suite à une infraction directe à nos conditions d’utilisation.

Nous prenons ces situations très au sérieux et menons une enquête détaillée avant toute sanction. Dans le cas présent, les preuves rassemblées sont estimées suffisantes et la sanction est définitive.

Ces mesures sont indispensables pour conserver l’intégrité du jeu et protéger la communauté dans son ensemble. Nous ne pouvons vous donner plus de détails sur la fermeture de ce compte que ce qui vous a déjà été adressé.

Pour de plus amples informations, vous trouverez ci-dessous des liens vers notre règlement et nos conditions d’utilisation.

Il peut arriver que le client de jeu examine les processus de la mémoire vive et/ou du processeur de votre ordinateur pour détecter tout programme tiers en exécution simultanée avec le jeu.

Est appelé programme tiers non autorisé tout logiciel tiers (y compris les add-ons) qui permet de tricher, intercepte, mine ou collecte des données dans la base de données du jeu, ou permet de modifier ou de pirater l’interface ou l’environnement du jeu de manière non autorisée clairement par Blizzard Entertainment.

Par souci de confidentialité et de sécurité, nous ne révélons pas les détails de nos enquêtes à nos utilisateurs. Je peux cependant vous assurer que nous avons examiné et vérifié les preuves relevées dans cette affaire. Ce genre de situation est de plus soumis à plusieurs agents pour garantir l’impartialité des conclusions. Tout est donc confirmé.
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Your WoW account is definitively closed further to a direct breach of our conditions of use.

We take these situations very seriously and lead an investigation detailed before any penalty. In this case, the (collected) proofs are considered sufficient and the penalty is definitive.

These measures are essential to preserve the integrity of the game and protect the community in general. We can give you no more details about the closure of this account than what was already sent to you.

For further information, you will find below links towards our regulation and our conditions of use.

The launcher can examines the processes of the random access memory and/or the processor of your computer to detect any third program in simultaneous execution with the game.

Third unauthorized quite software third program (including add - ons) is called which allows to *****, intercepts, gathered or data collection in the database of the game, or allows to modify or to pirate the interface or the environment of the gamein a unauthorized way clearly by Blizzard Entertainment.

By concern of confidentiality and safety, we do not reveal the details of our inquiries to our users. I can however assure you that we examined and verified the proofs found in this affair. This kind of situation is of more subdued to several agents to guarantee the impartiality of the conclusions. Everything is thus confirmed.
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So do you think its the truth ? How to prevent / avoid this ?
 
Beaucoup de monde en a discuté sur le forum ces derniers mois, et notament lors de du waveban. Oui, c'est vrai Blizzard a utilisé ce procédé mais de ce que j'ai pu lire, des membres du forum on examinés les différents exécutables et il semblerait que ça ne soit plus de cas.

C'est aussi pour ça que Bossland prend du temps après chaque mise à jour : pour vérifier que Blizzard n'ai pas ajouté un petit bout de code vicieux...
 
Technically this is illegal and against about any liberty charts from most of the countries.... SO you could sue them and win (big) because this is a major infringement to fundamental freedom laws. On another note, read this article https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/blizzard_entert.html said that yes they use a program to scan your processor and random memory but that the program also collects data about stuff you do while browsing the web, etc. This is kinda scary not because I'm botting but because your privacy is raped. That's double standards by Blizzard, which is f***ing disgusting.
 
Actually, you are supposed to highlight in bold the next topic:

Third unauthorized quite software third program (including add - ons) is called which allows to *****, intercepts, gathered or data collection in the database of the game, or allows to modify or to pirate the interface or the environment of the gamein a unauthorized way clearly by Blizzard Entertainment.
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The above, translated to common language, means that the WoW client is legally allowed to actively monitor only processes, which are attached or interfere with the WoW software. So they indeed scan your RAM, but only for software, interacting with WoW, indeed ... not for "any program in your task list" :D
 
blizzard gives you the chance to opt-out of the scans by clicking 'i do not agree with these terms'. ofc you won't be able to play the game, but your super secret spy stuff and your kiddie porn will be safe from prying eyes.
 
frosticus said:
blizzard gives you the chance to opt-out of the scans by clicking 'i do not agree with these terms'. ofc you won't be able to play the game, but your super secret spy stuff and your kiddie porn will be safe from prying eyes.
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I lolled pretty hard at this
 
Run in VMs. Doesn't use much more CPU if done correctly.
 
Sorry but VM's doesnt make it safer because you still run the wow client and the bot process on the same vm, are you ? ;P if you know what i mean ..
 
antonov314 said:
Sorry but VM's doesnt make it safer because you still run the wow client and the bot process on the same vm, are you ? ;P if you know what i mean ..
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Read too fast I thought you meant multiple instances of WoW are more easily detected.
 
what do you hope to accomplish with a vm. blizzard is smarter than you think. they can see right through that shit.
 
I do t use browser on my not computers clear my files and rename files and do t have the. I. Desktop I d a lot of different thing s each day and I have had not even a warning I. 3 months and about 10 million gold made and sold
 
botster said:
I do t use browser on my not computers clear my files and rename files and do t have the. I. Desktop I d a lot of different thing s each day and I have had not even a warning I. 3 months and about 10 million gold made and sold
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It's all cool, but I see you didn't bot up until around may 13th :)
 
VM's are a complete waste of time unless you want to play around with programs that might harm your computer. Botting on a VM is just no better than botting on a normal PC.
 
I lost 8 accounts (I think it was) earlier this week. I've been botting on and off (mostly on, but not at the time of the 6 month bans) for many years, my last bans came at the start of Cata. It's funny you mention about the WoW launcher though. I never ever launched from the WoW launcher when I play normally until the same day I got banned.

I'm not saying it's because of that, but it is interesting... Truth is, we have no idea how Blizzard detects us. I probably shouldn't have been doing Kixx 1-15 and then DungeonBuddy to 90 on 5 accounts at the same time.. I don't know.... It's frustrating :)
 
vm good for running alot of bots at once with shit settings without fucking up your main settings if you actually play, thats about it, theres nothing you gain from running the bot on a VM detection wise.
 
nooblet said:
VM's are a complete waste of time unless you want to play around with programs that might harm your computer. Botting on a VM is just no better than botting on a normal PC.
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lbb199 said:
vm good for running alot of bots at once with shit settings without fucking up your main settings if you actually play, thats about it, theres nothing you gain from running the bot on a VM detection wise.
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Can't tell if trolling or serious.

You both clearly fail at using VMs or cloud technology.
 
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