Gold Laundering/Siphering.

[Kandahar]

Hi Guys.
I'm currently multiboxing with 5 Accounts /8 characters on each.

With Cata coming out this is going to be mighty expensive to gear up my alts.
I don't want to bot on any of these accounts cause that would be a sure fire and quick way to lose my mains.
So I was thinking about just buying from accounts.com.
Is this what you guys do? I was thinking about buying level 70+ but not 80 as I have read 80s seem to get banned more?
I would run several accounts at the same time. Should I be concerned about IP addresses? Since it would clearly show 10 accounts from the same IP? 5 legit multi boxing, and 5 botters?

Then secondly, how can I turn my dirty gold into good gold? I think this is like trade secrets and I see a lot of people reluctant to help.
I am not looking to sell any gold to people, I have a great paying job and don't want to pick up a few hundred $$ in game. Its just to create a lot of surplus gold so I can buy equipment for my 40 toons on my main account.

I also need ALOT of resources to train up alchemy so I figure this would be a good way.

 

[sera]

Ha ha ha.....Do you know how much time you need to powerlevel 5acc with 8 characters on each acc?

 

[Kandahar]

Ha ha ha.....Do you know how much time you need to powerlevel 5acc with 8 characters on each acc?

I've completed that part. This was about gearing them up. I don't need leveling advice... And in any case it really doesn't take that long for anyone starting afresh. They aren't all 80, but they are all over 60.
I'm not sure what the "Ha ha ha..." was for.

Pleaaase try to keep this on topic.

 

[fasteddie78]

you can raf a ton of 60s in no time... i believe that is what the OP did

 

[Funtimes]

Hi Guys.
I'm currently multiboxing with 5 Accounts /8 characters on each.

With Cata coming out this is going to be mighty expensive to gear up my alts.
I don't want to bot on any of these accounts cause that would be a sure fire and quick way to lose my mains.
So I was thinking about just buying from accounts.com.
Is this what you guys do? I was thinking about buying level 70+ but not 80 as I have read 80s seem to get banned more?
I would run several accounts at the same time. Should I be concerned about IP addresses? Since it would clearly show 10 accounts from the same IP? 5 legit multi boxing, and 5 botters?

Then secondly, how can I turn my dirty gold into good gold? I think this is like trade secrets and I see a lot of people reluctant to help.
I am not looking to sell any gold to people, I have a great paying job and don't want to pick up a few hundred $$ in game. Its just to create a lot of surplus gold so I can buy equipment for my 40 toons on my main account.

I also need ALOT of resources to train up alchemy so I figure this would be a good way.

I think you overestimate the probability of detection. Not saying it can't happen -- but for many it hasn't when done responsibly. You def need to start gathering with honorbuddy. If you don't want to bot on your mains thats all good. Make some more accounts and farm low level stuff it sells for bank. I also multibox and use this stuff and still bot on a large portion of my accounts. I think alot of people get busted selling gold to websites ;o.

 

[Kandahar]

I would definately be responsible. Botting around 12hours.. but I'm just concerned, how do I get the gold onto my account? If the accounts are so blatently linked... transfer 3k gold every day to the account has to be ringing alarm bells when the accounts do get banned.

Eventualy all good things come to an end, so I am under no illusion that thebotters won't eventually get banned. Maybe it will take a year.. but eventually they will. So then what happens... my 5 multibox well behaved accts get banned for "Buying Gold" or something.. since that is what it would look like..

Plus I would be from the same IP address.

Also, how would you go about getting these accounts to bot on. I obviouslyk don't want to level them up. They will be scrap.

 

[lewl]

ok well first you need to creat a new guild. join 1 character from each account to the guild.(it can be a bank alt) then deposit your gold in to the gbank and your golden. as far as being banned by ip, what i heard is that blizzard bans by mac address not the ip. so i would recommend using different computers for each account. i have been botting for years, and yes i have been banned before, but not in a very long time. i think the last time i got a banned account was with a pos bot from china.

 

[Kandahar]

lewl: And how would you recommend getting the gold to the mains?

Additionally, how should I create these accounts? Should I just buy them or grind them up. I'm already busy with my mains.. I would like to get started asap.

 

[richarddoran]

It really doesn't take all that long to have the bot level itself up, especially during BG weekends. I would go with the safe route, get fresh accounts, all in different names, and have honorbuddy level them (or you could boost em yourself to 60 multiboxing style in instances) Bots generate a TON of gold just by leveling. I usually lvl 2 at a time, in RAF, one is mining/skinning one is herbalism/skinning. They gather so much stuff along the way that sells very well, for very high prices.

I multibox also, and just use a gbank to move money around. Deposit all auction proceeds in, and withdraw from another toon, that's about as safe as you can get. I also switch up bank alts, different toons/accounts every few months, so people dont get sucpicious and try and report. I also bot on a separate computer on my network, so I have deniability, i could just say "it was my roommates PC, I didnt know he botted" just in case, if it ever comes to that.

If you really dont want to wait, I'm sure buying existing accounts works just fine.

 

[Cattle79]

so I can buy equipment for my 40 toons

lol you should get sponsorship from Blizzard or something ... 40 toons

On a serious note, I paid to get two toons power levelled from IGXE a couple of months ago. Obviously they are based far from where I live in the UK and this was detected by Blizzard - one toon got to 24 - the other only to level 7! I got emails from Blizzard stating that due to suspicious activity on the accounts that they were suspended. This must have been due to them detecting where the accounts were being logged in from.

 

[Kandahar]

It really doesn't take all that long to have the bot level itself up, especially during BG weekends. I would go with the safe route, get fresh accounts, all in different names, and have honorbuddy level them (or you could boost em yourself to 60 multiboxing style in instances) Bots generate a TON of gold just by leveling. I usually lvl 2 at a time, in RAF, one is mining/skinning one is herbalism/skinning. They gather so much stuff along the way that sells very well, for very high prices.

I multibox also, and just use a gbank to move money around. Deposit all auction proceeds in, and withdraw from another toon, that's about as safe as you can get. I also switch up bank alts, different toons/accounts every few months, so people dont get sucpicious and try and report. I also bot on a separate computer on my network, so I have deniability, i could just say "it was my roommates PC, I didnt know he botted" just in case, if it ever comes to that.

If you really dont want to wait, I'm sure buying existing accounts works just fine.

I don't actually have another computer. I just built my new one last month. Its decent enough to run 7-8 instances flawlessly of WOW.


Some people say that buying under different names isn't really neccessary or advisable. At what level do you begin to start botting?

Also, when I'm playing on my normal accounts, do I have to close down my browser to this website? Does Warden scrape page TITLEs?

 

[leeboy]

Use a mac changer to bot, then change back to real mac for normal play maybe.

 

[Funtimes]

1) It doesnt matter what the names are in.

2) It wont matter what IP your at (UNLESS) you get investigated while your bots are online (This is just my opinion after botting for many years).

3.) RAF - 8 accounts. The first five will be your main's (for multyboxing) never touch them if you want to be safe. 3 for RAF use tradeskills for botting boost them to 60 -- quest the three together at least through 71.
Once at 71, you can level while doing skinning, daily battlegrounds, ect. It will take some time but I use three farmers at 80 to farm for my 10 box team. I have gotten somewhat greedy recently and botted up to 6 toons at a time in different sections. While this seems like alot of characters the amount of gold you can aquire on 3 accounts a month is far exceeding the price of gold you pay to purchase. This also will help ensure protection for your multibox toons.

4.) It doesnt matter what computer you use -- I mean really? /tinfoil hat. I have two banned accounts on my current battlnet, when I got hit in may 08 I only lost the accounts that were detected.

5.) Don't worry about warden, the average person doesn't know enough about it do protect themselves from shit, just pray and rely on our bot creators and their tripwire.

6.) I did use Honorbuddy to level tradeskills (mining / skinning / fishing ) on the majority of the 60 characters I have.

7.) Don't rely on these people and their "schemes" to get out of a ban, when your caught... your probably gone. Unless its for economy exploitation. For moving gold I have one vanilla account that has ownership of ALL my guildbanks (7 of them) for a worse case scenario. Each boxing account has a link to the "main bank" where I keep gold and expensive items. Anything I need I can move to there and launder through the guild bank. and vice versa -- I send mail to all sorts of characters on all accounts. I sell on EVERY account. A portion of everything I farm, goes to AH, others get sold to vendor, some gets sent to characters for future use.

I hope this info helps you!

 

[Kandahar]

Funtimes:

Thanks very much. That post was the most informative I have read after browsing soo many pages.

I have a few more questions.

On my 3 RAF Botting accounts, would you keep them all on seperate Bnet.. |(I know it doesn't matter.. but it's maybe got to be a little bit helpful)...

Do you bot at the same time while playing your mains?

At what level can I start botting? Do I have to manually play them up to level 15.. or something similar? Would you party the three accounts together so they get the 300% bonus and then play together? What do you think I think do for this to level them up quickly?

 

[Funtimes]

I am really hoping you have at least (1) level 80, this would be used to boost the botting accounts and two of your own accounts.

Just RAF them all together a-b-c-d-e-f-g-h (so many levels to grant lol). Boost H-G-F-E with h,g,f being your bots... they will have less characters then the other accounts but who cares. Your others will be stacked with granted levels (just level them up to like 10-15 or something by hand imo, get lots of rep that way. Make as many level 60's as you can stand on the first account and grant away after that, it will end up with a rediculous amount of characters lol.

I do bot when im playing some of my mains -- this is risky, if there was a software detection my main would be gone with it.

 

[Kandahar]

Yeah I have 80s accross mymain 5 accounts.

If I was to do it, I would probably create 5 accounts so that I could do ten man instances on my full accounts. This makes more sense rather than just having 8 I think. That way I could rotate the five accounts over 3 botting.

 

[Funtimes]

If i had 10 like that, I would probably bot 4-5 and keep a clean five for good luck

 

[Kandahar]

Yeah, thats the plan. I'm already paying for 5 subscriptions a month. I can stretch it to 10 I think.

One of the things I really want is a private bot which I'm thinking of making through Macro Express or something.. which will log into my GOOD accounts, on each character and do transmutations. I have about 20 alchemists and it takes an hour of my time a day to do all the transmutations.

Any ideas on this?