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Forum suggestion: Remove "I disapprove"

Croga

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L.S.,

As you may (or may not) have noticed, I've stopped publishing my works altogether. The simple reason for this is the overload of "I disapprove" reputation I have gotten ever since I've published my work. At the same time there was not a single negative post about my work. This has led me to the conclusion that my efforts aren't wanted.
I can only imagine more people are in the same situation. And if not now then any new developer will come to that same situation. The end result can only be that development of community based stuff will slow down and/or grind to a halt.

The only reason I wanted to publish my work is so that others can benefit from it. The only benchmark I have for the quality of my work is the "like" and "Rep" features of this forum. They are very necessary in confirming to me that my work is good.

What I would suggest is that the "I disapprove" option in the reputation is removed altogether. It doesn't serve any purpose. Anyone that would use the option *should* post what's wrong with the post instead. Allowing people to voice their disapproval without stating a reason will only alienate developers, like me, from the community and doesn't add anything useful at all.

I'm beyond saving. I simply refuse to help a community that tells me "You suck" about 10 times as often as it tells me "You're okay" and doesn't even give me a reason as to why they think I suck. From now on I will keep my work to myself. But maybe the future developers can still be saved.
 
we are going to make some changes on our boards very soon anyways
 
it's the kids on the boards

I know you check up on my profile threads... but there are a lot of QQ posts that also get moved to archives

go and check my old archives thread and you'll see what i mean
 
I'm sorry that the membership here disrepected you like they did - and I'm sorry for the Community for the loss of your development. Lose / Lose all around.
 
it's the kids on the boards
I know you check up on my profile threads... but there are a lot of QQ posts that also get moved to archives
go and check my old archives thread and you'll see what i mean
I know mate, hence the load of "likes" for your work today. I have nothing but respect for the way you just keep on going ;)
 
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The only reason I wanted to publish my work is so that others can benefit from it. The only benchmark I have for the quality of my work is the "like" and "Rep" features of this forum. They are very necessary in confirming to me that my work is good.

What I would suggest is that the "I disapprove" option in the reputation is removed altogether. It doesn't serve any purpose. Anyone that would use the option *should* post what's wrong with the post instead. Allowing people to voice their disapproval without stating a reason will only alienate developers, like me, from the community and doesn't add anything useful at all.

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That is not the correct benchmark. I've been doing public releases of bot related projects for 4 years now and its been my experience that people who are happy are silent. They don't need your approval to use your content and they assume that you don't need their approval to carry on making it.

The real benchmark is whether you are happy with it yourself. The forums are fantastic as a way of finding bugs or logic errors as the user community is very helpful. But you cannot use the forums to judge whether you are appreciated. Happy users never post and any evaluation that leaves out the 1000s of people who are happy with your content cannot be fair to you.
 
I am going to have to agree with hawker.

As a user myself. I have being very happy with many if not all plug-ins and profile within this site. I have come to meet many people and at the same time learn to use HB. With developers like yourself, who has helped me before, its what keeps me here. Yes, i will admit, i am one of those Happy users that does not show it. But is because, is build within me. I always feel, if there is something wrong, say so, if everything is good, no need to speak.
 
That is not the correct benchmark. I've been doing public releases of bot related projects for 4 years now and its been my experience that people who are happy are silent. They don't need your approval to use your content and they assume that you don't need their approval to carry on making it.

The real benchmark is whether you are happy with it yourself. The forums are fantastic as a way of finding bugs or logic errors as the user community is very helpful. But you cannot use the forums to judge whether you are appreciated. Happy users never post and any evaluation that leaves out the 1000s of people who are happy with your content cannot be fair to you.
Maybe I measure the community by my own standards too much. Maybe I'm unique in giving feedback in all extremes. Maybe it's not normal to tell someone "Yeah, that fix you made to my previous remark did the job!" or even tell someone "Hey dude, I've used your work to get a number of reps to exalted. You rock!".

But at the moment we're looking at the other extreme: People only use the "I disapprove" button without saying *anything* at all. Not even adding a post saying "This profile sucks". If people were to *flame* me for my work I would be able to handle it as any false accusations, false remarks of something not working, can be countered with arguments. But an *anonymous* button click saying "I disapprove" doesn't give any option for rebuke.

As said; the "I disapprove" button doesn't add anything worthwhile to the forums. It doesn't help anyone. It does hurt people. Independent of my specific situation, there is no reason to have the "I disapprove" button whilst there is very good reason to remove it.
 
I hadn't seen that option and now I have seen it, I agree with you. We are changing the site over next month. "I disapprove" will either go or I will post the reason we keep it.
 
I should disapprove of this Croga, buy I won't, because I like your work :)
The button being removed is a whatever to me, but your argument is justified.
Go hawker go!
 
and this is why I flame the people who bash the CC makers/profile makers because the admin sometimes takes just a tad to long to take care of things.
 
and this is why I flame the people who bash the CC makers/profile makers because the admin sometimes takes just a tad to long to take care of things.

you know how to report bad things tho

on forums is the "Report Post" button and you can send me an email at [email protected] as well about any case/problem/issue/suggestion you have
 
i'm going to click on " i disapprove " for this post :-) quit crying, go play some football .... i kid i kid


if people like your work they'll tell ya. you don't need a Forum rep system that only benefits the good things to tell you that.
 
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