D3 - Computer Builds for Botting

[blista08]

I've been wondering for a while what it would take as a nearly bare minimum build for botting D3.

The idea is stretching that dollar and getting (at least) 8-10+ bots on the computer oyu're purchasing. I've been toying around with pcpartpicker, but I'm sure there are some of your out there who know how to stretch that dime as short as possible. This build is based around minimalistic configuration necessary as well (take it out of the box and rock).

Here's a link to get started (pc builder) - AMD FX-6300, PowerColor Radeon HD 7850, Corsair 200R - System Build - PCPartPicker. This build was on a $600.00 budget -- Current price is at $625.00. Wait until discounts release again.

 

[map]

you sure it will run 10 bots?

 

[conetopia]

thats about 602$ ( if you get all the mail in rebates)
I have purchased 3x mail in rebate items from newegg in the last 4 or 5 years, and none of my items came with the mail in rebates...
so good luck, I Hope if you plan to buy an item that is suppose to come with mail-in rebate... I hope that you buy it from a place besides newegg.. maybe amazon.com or something.

Your parts for the prices are pretty decent, although I would search under the cpu/motherboard/ram combo selection. normally you can get 16gb of ddr3 1600 ram for free.

don't forget about fans and thermal paste.

If it was me buying, I would try to spend 5 to 10 bucks less , and get a 500GB hard drive with a 10,000 RPM speed.

 

[blista08]

thats about 602$ ( if you get all the mail in rebates)
I have purchased 3x mail in rebate items from newegg in the last 4 or 5 years, and none of my items came with the mail in rebates...
so good luck, I Hope if you plan to buy an item that is suppose to come with mail-in rebate... I hope that you buy it from a place besides newegg.. maybe amazon.com or something.

Your parts for the prices are pretty decent, although I would search under the cpu/motherboard/ram combo selection. normally you can get 16gb of ddr3 1600 ram for free.

don't forget about fans and thermal paste.

If it was me buying, I would try to spend 5 to 10 bucks less , and get a 500GB hard drive with a 10,000 RPM speed.

I've got tons of extra fans laying around from a couple computers I built for friends last year. They replaced the stock with some vortex and didn't want to keep the stock corsair. For the majority of your purchases you can go to the manufacturer's website to obtain all mail in rebate forms.

 

[blista08]

you sure it will run 10 bots?

I built my buddy a similar computer and he has no issues running 10 bots. Set his computer to minimal settings and run nothing but d3.

 

[blista08]

thats about 602$ ( if you get all the mail in rebates)
I have purchased 3x mail in rebate items from newegg in the last 4 or 5 years, and none of my items came with the mail in rebates...
so good luck, I Hope if you plan to buy an item that is suppose to come with mail-in rebate... I hope that you buy it from a place besides newegg.. maybe amazon.com or something.

Your parts for the prices are pretty decent, although I would search under the cpu/motherboard/ram combo selection. normally you can get 16gb of ddr3 1600 ram for free.

don't forget about fans and thermal paste.

If it was me buying, I would try to spend 5 to 10 bucks less , and get a 500GB hard drive with a 10,000 RPM speed.

What 10k RPM hard drive ( at 500 GB) have you found that's cheaper than a 1TB 7200 for $60.00?

 

[conetopia]

thanks for the info on them mail-in rebates.
The hard drive info i got mixed up on, I thought they were 50, I guess they were 150$

Might want to switch the motherboards or ram maybe.
motherboard says. Memory Type DDR3-800/1066/1333
so save a lil on lower clocking ram?

----- I don't know as much as I thought I did about computers -----

 

[blista08]

thanks for the info on them mail-in rebates.
The hard drive info i got mixed up on, I thought they were 50, I guess they were 150$

Might want to switch the motherboards or ram maybe.
motherboard says. Memory Type DDR3-800/1066/1333
so save a lil on lower clocking ram?

----- I don't know as much as I thought I did about computers -----

You can save a little bit of money on lower clocking and pickup flash drives to use ReadyBoost. I typically build 16-32 GB support MB and fill the rest in with flash drives. Windows 7 allows up to I think 256 GB of additional support from external HDDs (for RAM).

 

[bizzy1one]

AMD systems interest me. i have an i7 3770k @ 4.6 that is pushing 12 clients @ about $90 in hardware per bot. My i5 i could only get to push 8 @4.4mhz. seems i can get about 1.5 d3's per core in my experience and keep around 13-15 fps for speed / efficiency. (way over spent on video card and ssd) i dont think either are ideal for a botting rig, and 32bg ram was about 8 to much. next will have 650ti 2gb or just plain 2gb 650 and a 10k disk and that will knock it down to $73ish per client.

If that AMD at $600 would push 10 at decent fps that'd be $60 hardware per client.. so seems pretty good. dont know if an i7 would hold more resell value or not over an amd botting rig, i guess thats another angle to consider for later on.

I currently have an i5 sitting here doing nothing (shoulda never bought) and am trying to decide if i should just slap a budget tower together and try to run 8 off it or go with another i7 or amd 8 core to try it out.

my i7 is running 12 atm at fps capped at 13 fairly stable with cpu at 70-80% and i dont think i should push anymore. the people running 15-16 on same cpu must run at like 10fps or dont care about lag or know a setting that i dont know about to reduce cpu usage further.

 

[blista08]

AMD systems interest me. i have an i7 3770k @ 4.6 that is pushing 12 clients @ about $90 in hardware per bot. My i5 i could only get to push 8 @4.4mhz. seems i can get about 1.5 d3's per core in my experience and keep around 13-15 fps for speed / efficiency. (way over spent on video card and ssd) i dont think either are ideal for a botting rig, and 32bg ram was about 8 to much. next will have 650ti 2gb or just plain 2gb 650 and a 10k disk and that will knock it down to $73ish per client.

If that AMD at $600 would push 10 at decent fps that'd be $60 hardware per client.. so seems pretty good. dont know if an i7 would hold more resell value or not over an amd botting rig, i guess thats another angle to consider for later on.

I currently have an i5 sitting here doing nothing (shoulda never bought) and am trying to decide if i should just slap a budget tower together and try to run 8 off it or go with another i7 or amd 8 core to try it out.

my i7 is running 12 atm at fps capped at 13 fairly stable with cpu at 70-80% and i dont think i should push anymore. the people running 15-16 on same cpu must run at like 10fps or dont care about lag or know a setting that i dont know about to reduce cpu usage further.

I'm building the rigs for a "right now" style. The cheaper the better. My current rig (2700k processor) can easily handle 10+ clients with OC, but the rig back in January cost me around $1400 to build up, including purchasing Windows 7 Ultimate from chinese sellers.

With the AMD rig as well, you're looking at heavy modifications and specific tuning to minimize all RAM and process loads to specifically D3. Only thing loaded on the computer is D3, Demonbuddy, Malware Bytes, and WinBMA. You can also get a lot extra out of your processor and GPU if you modify your D3 prefs to bare minimal.

I'm considering picking up this rig and tweaking it to see how much I can truly get out of it. If D3 fails through, I can always kick over to other new games anyways . If all else fails, it would be a pretty sweet setup for my wife when she finally decides Skyrim is a crock of shit.

 

[bizzy1one]

my d3prefs (fps limited through isboxer)

PreferencesVersion "44"
PlayedCutscene0 "15"
PlayedCutscene1 "15"
PlayedCutscene2 "23"
PlayedCutscene3 "143"
DisplayModeFlags "0"
DisplayModeWindowMode "2"
DisplayModeWinLeft "-1175"
DisplayModeWinTop "105"
DisplayModeWinWidth "909"
DisplayModeWinHeight "645"
DisplayModeUIOptWidth "800"
DisplayModeUIOptHeight "600"
DisplayModeWidth "909"
DisplayModeHeight "645"
DisplayModeRefreshRate "75"
DisplayModeBitDepth "16"
Gamma "1.000000"
MipOffset "1"
ShadowQuality "0"
PhysicsQuality "0"
ClutterQuality "0"
Vsync "0"
Letterbox "0"
Antialiasing "0"
LowFX "1"
LimitForegroundFPS "0"
MaxForegroundFPS "15"
LimitBackgroundFPS "0"
MaxBackgroundFPS "15"
DisableTrilinearFiltering "1"
ColorCorrection "1"
MipBias "9.999999"
ReflectionQuality "0"
TonemapExposure "1.900000"
TonemapContrast "1.500000"
TonemapSaturation "1.000000"
TonemapGain "1.000000"
HardwareClass "1"
PCIVendor "4318"
PCIDevice "4483"
MasterVolume "1.000000"
EffectVolume "0.800000"
MusicVolume "0.800000"
NarrationVolume "0.800000"
AmbientVolume "0.800000"
ChannelsToUse "32"
SoundDriver "0"
SpeakerMode "0"
ReverseSpeakers "0"
QuestSubtitlesEnabled "0"
CinematicsSubtitlesEnabled "0"
MuteSound "1"
MuteEffects "0"
MuteAmbient "0"
MuteVoice "0"
MuteMusic "1"

ram is a non issue atm i think, still have 14gb free. processes im not real sure about. i have d3 set to high everything else normal. only thing showing up using cpu is db and d3. other processes running are intel rapid storage, nvidia, and system stuff i think (i close agent32 everytime and it seems to help)... havent installed much of anything to keep it clean.

 

[blista08]

Anyone else have some suggestions? Also, prices may changes may fluctuate as this build includes current offers/combos. Might be a little more or less when you add it in.

 

[bizzy1one]

im going to order 1 tonight or tomorrow during hopefully sales.

things im debating.

650ti 2gb for $150 or a 650 or 640 for $100 ... havent made up mind on that yet. want it to push 8 with i5 atm but capable of upgrading to 12. i dont think the video card takes much stress at all compared to the cpu. my 660ti handles 12 at no more than 30% so i have 50% wasted power to cut. so whats 1/2 of a 660ti lol? i may just try the 640 2gb.

hd ... havent decided on a 7200 or a 10k. wd 10k 250gb is $109 atm at newegg. will prolly regret that $30-40 if i dont but unsure.

mb want to be able to upgrade to i7 in near future and oc. not sure limitations on these things so i tend to overbuy. prolly another asrock extreme4 z77.

psu ... will prolly try that corsair you listed. i guess ill look up what a 4.6 i7 takes power wise. if not they have a thermaltake 850w for $80ish and a seasonic 750 for 109.00.

ram w/e gskill 1600 i can get cheap.

have an i5 3570k sitting here so going to try a bare minimum build for it but be upgradable to i7.

 

[blista08]

im going to order 1 tonight or tomorrow during hopefully sales.

things im debating.

650ti 2gb for $150 or a 650 or 640 for $100 ... havent made up mind on that yet. want it to push 8 with i5 atm but capable of upgrading to 12. i dont think the video card takes much stress at all compared to the cpu. my 660ti handles 12 at no more than 30% so i have 50% wasted power to cut. so whats 1/2 of a 660ti lol? i may just try the 640 2gb.

hd ... havent decided on a 7200 or a 10k. wd 10k 250gb is $109 atm at newegg. will prolly regret that $30-40 if i dont but unsure.

mb want to be able to upgrade to i7 in near future and oc. not sure limitations on these things so i tend to overbuy. prolly another asrock extreme4 z77.

psu ... will prolly try that corsair you listed. i guess ill look up what a 4.6 i7 takes power wise. if not they have a thermaltake 850w for $80ish and a seasonic 750 for 109.00.

ram w/e gskill 1600 i can get cheap.

have an i5 3570k sitting here so going to try a bare minimum build for it but be upgradable to i7.

Strictly speaking performance per dollar here:

CPU: CPU Mark/$ -- AMD 8320 - Top 8 in all time value. I currently rock the 2700k at 4.5 GHz(still in the rated top tier in performance). It was an awesome purchase, but speaking stricly in a botting rig, I don't feel the performance advantage is worth the cost difference. I7 is very, very pricey for what you're getting out of it.
GPU: G3D Mark/$ Radeon 7850 ($165.00 [dependant on sales])-- highest rated performance per $$. However, the 650 ti is a great alternative ($30 cheaper, but much less performance).
HDD: 10k HDD is nice, but I feel there's no need to go over the 7200 (for what I need anyways). I prefer more space over the extra performance -- just my opinion.
PSU: All dependent on your needs, but make sure to check wattage estimations on sites like newegg and pcpartschecker. My current rig has a 1200w power supply and I've yet to come ANYWHERE even remotely close to that. I wouldn't go over a 750w, unless the price difference was significant enough.

Dunno, only my opinion, but if I were to upgrade Mobo and CPU, I'd be picking up an AMD FX right now. For the price of new generation I7's you can get the processor, mobo, custom liquid cooling rig (to maximize the OC), and still have plenty of change left over to upgrade your PC.

Check out pcpartpicker.com. Tis where I build all my computers.

 

[blista08]

im going to order 1 tonight or tomorrow during hopefully sales.

things im debating.

650ti 2gb for $150 or a 650 or 640 for $100 ... havent made up mind on that yet. want it to push 8 with i5 atm but capable of upgrading to 12. i dont think the video card takes much stress at all compared to the cpu. my 660ti handles 12 at no more than 30% so i have 50% wasted power to cut. so whats 1/2 of a 660ti lol? i may just try the 640 2gb.

hd ... havent decided on a 7200 or a 10k. wd 10k 250gb is $109 atm at newegg. will prolly regret that $30-40 if i dont but unsure.

mb want to be able to upgrade to i7 in near future and oc. not sure limitations on these things so i tend to overbuy. prolly another asrock extreme4 z77.

psu ... will prolly try that corsair you listed. i guess ill look up what a 4.6 i7 takes power wise. if not they have a thermaltake 850w for $80ish and a seasonic 750 for 109.00.

ram w/e gskill 1600 i can get cheap.

have an i5 3570k sitting here so going to try a bare minimum build for it but be upgradable to i7.

Low end - picking up the i7 ivy bridge and an asus extreme starts out at $615.97.

Also, updated the build. Discounts expired on some parts. Swapped motherboard to one that supports 32GB ram. $625.00

 

[heffy]

AMD systems interest me. i have an i7 3770k @ 4.6 that is pushing 12 clients @ about $90 in hardware per bot. My i5 i could only get to push 8 @4.4mhz. seems i can get about 1.5 d3's per core in my experience and keep around 13-15 fps for speed / efficiency. (way over spent on video card and ssd) i dont think either are ideal for a botting rig, and 32bg ram was about 8 to much. next will have 650ti 2gb or just plain 2gb 650 and a 10k disk and that will knock it down to $73ish per client.

If that AMD at $600 would push 10 at decent fps that'd be $60 hardware per client.. so seems pretty good. dont know if an i7 would hold more resell value or not over an amd botting rig, i guess thats another angle to consider for later on.

I currently have an i5 sitting here doing nothing (shoulda never bought) and am trying to decide if i should just slap a budget tower together and try to run 8 off it or go with another i7 or amd 8 core to try it out.

my i7 is running 12 atm at fps capped at 13 fairly stable with cpu at 70-80% and i dont think i should push anymore. the people running 15-16 on same cpu must run at like 10fps or dont care about lag or know a setting that i dont know about to reduce cpu usage further.

I run a I5 2500k at 4.6Ghz with 16 gb of ram.
I have run 6 clients on it at most at one time however my cpu was at 30% tops so I expect to be able to run 12 on my I5.... any thoughts as to why you could only fit in 8 bots?

 

[blista08]

I run a I5 2500k at 4.6Ghz with 16 gb of ram.
I have run 6 clients on it at most at one time however my cpu was at 30% tops so I expect to be able to run 12 on my I5.... any thoughts as to why you could only fit in 8 bots?

He might not have optimized his PC/Game client for it. That's my guess =x.

 

[bizzy1one]

I run a I5 2500k at 4.6Ghz with 16 gb of ram.
I have run 6 clients on it at most at one time however my cpu was at 30% tops so I expect to be able to run 12 on my I5.... any thoughts as to why you could only fit in 8 bots?

not 100% sure, but a few guesses.

my i7 3770k is at 4.6ghz and running 12 atm at 60% with spikes to 85%. all 12 capped at 14fps with d3prefs gutted running act 3 with 10 tps and new trinity. they all stay fluid and dont lag. they all stay around 28-34m xp/hr and they all produce well and cost $7 in gear + $30 newegg key. i can cut down tps and edit profiles to cut down usage but the $ also drops a good bit.

my i5 maxed out at 8 without hindering performance on the profiles and setup i run.

maybe i have something setup wrong, but i figure i just run higher demanding profiles and settings.

maybe its something in isboxer that i have wrong? ive tried everything ive read or heard to get it this far so im not real sure. if you want to suggest something id be more than appreciative.


back to blista08.

i hear ya on the amd, my problem being i have an i5 just sitting here wasting $200 if i dont use it. maybe ill build it and just leave the rig with the i5 in it until i7's come down more but wanted that option moving forward. next system after this will prolly be amd.

the hdd im not sure of either. i dont like the random loads in d3 x how many ever bots are running and figured 10k would help somewhat for minimal $ spent extra.

video card needs to be below 660ti a good deal as the card in this system atm is just wasted if it were on a botting rig by a large margin ... 50% or more. just scared a 640 cant push the 12 so i was thinking about a 650ti... hard to judge these things. its $70 cheaper, or maybe a lower model radeon ... just needs 2gb vram and to be decent.

psu currently have corsair 650w for $59 i think in cart.

He might not have optimized his PC/Game client for it. That's my guess =x.

wish there was a performance sticky guide or readme or something as this is all thats ever said and almost never goes into more detail. my d3prefs are posted above and other info in this post. windows 7 prof. isboxer, yar, profile, trinity.

i could run 15 dumb bots at 5 tps and fps at 12 or lower with easier profiles but i dont see the point. they dont produce near the $ an efficient bot does im my experience.

 

[Harmacintyre]

they have a deal on 2x4gb at newegg for 29.99 each
G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSQ
29.99 after promocode

 

[heffy]

not 100% sure, but a few guesses.

my i7 3770k is at 4.6ghz and running 12 atm at 60% with spikes to 85%. all 12 capped at 14fps with d3prefs gutted running act 3 with 10 tps and new trinity. they all stay fluid and dont lag. they all stay around 28-34m xp/hr and they all produce well and cost $7 in gear + $30 newegg key. i can cut down tps and edit profiles to cut down usage but the $ also drops a good bit.

my i5 maxed out at 8 without hindering performance on the profiles and setup i run.

maybe i have something setup wrong, but i figure i just run higher demanding profiles and settings.

maybe its something in isboxer that i have wrong? ive tried everything ive read or heard to get it this far so im not real sure. if you want to suggest something id be more than appreciative.

well it could be different things.
are you running ssd?
my C: drive is on ssd and I have a seperate ssd for the bots.
also my win 7 is service pack 1 fresh install and nothing else, dunno if that makes a difference.
nothing extra.