complicated installation procedures and unnecessary passwords

[odarn]

I may be criticizing people who have apparently contributed very much to honorbuddy, but as new user i am honestly appalled at how user unfriendly this program is. Things that should be normal, like standard profiles, demand that you waste a whole evening and longer trying to figure it out. Honorbuddy, if you are willing to accept payment for your work, which is certainly not unappreciated, then you must shed this hobbyist culture and chose a more professional attitude. I personally am a fervent admirer of the KISS principle (Keep It Stupid and Simple).

 

[cici]

and what part of this is it you do not find Stupid and Simple? you have been here 2 days and already complaining, have you even tried, i mean really tried to figure some of all the unuserfriendly stuff out, or are you just here to get rid of all your mixxed emotions and bad feelings today?

 

[frosticus]

it does seem overly complicted, but... blizz has got real good at detecting patterns. do you really want everyone running the same standard pattern day and night? the ability to change and shape honorbuddy to our purpose is what makes it fluid and hard to catch. besides, do you reallly want 6 people following you on the same gathering path? or how about having only one cc for pvp and pve, which take different strategies. honorbuddy is like abox of legos, build what you want with the block available. and if you are smart enough build a few special blocks of your own.

 

[frosticus]

o and maybe this is new, but we are cheating against a multibillion dollar company with millions of subscribers, did you think it would be like baking a cake?

 

[cici]

oi dont bring the cakes into this baking a cake can be complicated!!

 

[ryftobuddy]

Really? Difficult? Spent a whole evening figuring out how to use the software?

I don't think computers are for you...This is probably the easiest wow bot there's ever been as far as setup goes. There are built in profiles for every class and spec (singular), the forum is completely filled with profiles for whatever you want, and if you want to PvP, it's completely built in. The installation process is now an .exe file you run that installs everything for you. How on earth could that be construed as difficult?

It boggles my mind how someone could spend an entire evening, let alone an hour, figuring out how to get this bot to run.

 

[odarn]

I understand the need of flexibility as far as paths are concerned, and therefore the relative use of standard paths. But it is the first what a new user encounters and that definitely could be made more accessible. The interface is what i am talking about, and it is, if I may be honest, and after 2 whole days, a real disaster. I am sure that if i can be patient enough that wil have no difficulty whatsoever with this program in a couple of weeks or months.... or years. The fact that 2 days are not enough to give me the right to speak is in itself quite meaningful. It should be a challenge to develop new paths and new ways to beat the system, but the use of the application itself should be as transparent as possible.

 

[chtpm]

I do believe HB is hard to use, I mean I press start and nothing happens. It just stands still and nothing... Its been 2 weeks and Im still level one. Could someone tell me how I ding 90 I really need to get there in an hour or 2 TOPS...And 100k golds too

 

[ryftobuddy]

What exactly is a disaster about the interface? You haven't given any examples of what is giving you issues.

 

[odarn]

I do believe HB is hard to use, I mean I press start and nothing happens. It just stands still and nothing... Its been 2 weeks and Im still level one. Could someone tell me how I ding 90 I really need to get there in an hour or 2 TOPS...And 100k golds too

I am sorry i I can't help you, you seem like a really nice guy! I barely reached level 30 and the toon sold all my mats so I hardly have any gold. But send me your battle tag and I will see what I can do.

 

[bloodmarks]

Really? Difficult? Spent a whole evening figuring out how to use the software?

I don't think computers are for you...

actually Honorbuddy IS difficult to setup/start using, not for me personally, but you have to measure difficulty for AVERAGE person not techies like us.

I spent a lot of time (several years) working in fortune 500 as developer and technical support, and this is several parts of honorbuddy that average office worker in said fortune 500 company would find problematic to understand/do/use:
- You need to download program from "some" forum instead on last page as soon as you entered/committed your credit card details
- Program you download is called honorbuddy_xx_xx.zip instead setup.exe most people expect
- You need to manually find and unzip program instead just doing next->next->next in setup.exe that your browser automatically started after download
- You need to manually setup honorbuddy and WOW to run as admin instead setup.exe doing it automatically
- You need to manually change WOW to use windowed mode and 32bit version, and DX9 instead setup.exe doing changes for you
- You need to update WOW link on desktop/start menu to start wow directly instead of launcher manually instead of HB setup making change for you
- when selecting bot from list there is no description like "dungeon buddy lets you run 5 man dungeons using bot" or "bgbuddy lets you do PVP battlegrounds using bot"
- there is too many bots/options (currently 12) it would be easier if they are somehow combined grupped, average office worker cant always make so complicated decisions
- I agree builtin profiles are risky but there should atleast be link to page with list of (ranked) profiles near load button
- when something goes wrong, or needs to be updated (if for some reason bot is not able to update itself) user should be able to just again download newer version of honorbuddy setup.exe from same place and setup should detect previous version, and offer to either keep settings, or "clean" install

Off course honorbuddy team does not have as much resources as Microsoft/Apple/unnamed company with over 10k employees i work for as my day job, and it is ok that honorbuddy requires some technical expertise, but it is not ok to insult people just because they are average unlike you or me and need whole day to install something as complicated as honorbuddy. it would be better to try to help them if possible instead, or even better making simple step by step picture, or video manual to do it so that you can link it next time someone has problems/put it in manuals section (this might even exist-video tutorial for install/setup i would not know since i did not need it)

 

[Aerie]

I may be criticizing people who have apparently contributed very much to honorbuddy, but as new user i am honestly appalled at how user unfriendly this program is. Things that should be normal, like standard profiles, demand that you waste a whole evening and longer trying to figure it out. Honorbuddy, if you are willing to accept payment for your work, which is certainly not unappreciated, then you must shed this hobbyist culture and chose a more professional attitude. I personally am a fervent admirer of the KISS principle (Keep It Stupid and Simple).

It took me maybe a few hours to figure it out and none of it was that difficult. There is a large amount of guides etc. If you want it to do everything for you then perhaps they should make the price $100.00.

 

[shinoowns]

actually Honorbuddy IS difficult to setup/start using, not for me personally, but you have to measure difficulty for AVERAGE person not techies like us.

I spent a lot of time (several years) working in fortune 500 as developer and technical support, and this is several parts of honorbuddy that average office worker in said fortune 500 company would find problematic to understand/do/use:
- You need to download program from "some" forum instead on last page as soon as you entered/committed your credit card details
- Program you download is called honorbuddy_xx_xx.zip instead setup.exe most people expect
- You need to manually find and unzip program instead just doing next->next->next in setup.exe that your browser automatically started after download
- You need to manually setup honorbuddy and WOW to run as admin instead setup.exe doing it automatically
- You need to manually change WOW to use windowed mode and 32bit version, and DX9 instead setup.exe doing changes for you
- You need to update WOW link on desktop/start menu to start wow directly instead of launcher manually instead of HB setup making change for you
- when selecting bot from list there is no description like "dungeon buddy lets you run 5 man dungeons using bot" or "bgbuddy lets you do PVP battlegrounds using bot"
- there is too many bots/options (currently 12) it would be easier if they are somehow combined grupped, average office worker cant always make so complicated decisions
- I agree builtin profiles are risky but there should atleast be link to page with list of (ranked) profiles near load button
- when something goes wrong, or needs to be updated (if for some reason bot is not able to update itself) user should be able to just again download newer version of honorbuddy setup.exe from same place and setup should detect previous version, and offer to either keep settings, or "clean" install

Off course honorbuddy team does not have as much resources as Microsoft/Apple/unnamed company with over 10k employees i work for as my day job, and it is ok that honorbuddy requires some technical expertise, but it is not ok to insult people just because they are average unlike you or me and need whole day to install something as complicated as honorbuddy. it would be better to try to help them if possible instead, or even better making simple step by step picture, or video manual to do it so that you can link it next time someone has problems/put it in manuals section (this might even exist-video tutorial for install/setup i would not know since i did not need it)

Why would you EVER want a setup compared to an unzip. There is a reason everything is being moved to portable, you can throw this on a flash drive and carry it with you if you want. And when you are given step by step instructions on EVERYTHING to set it up, literally pictures and everything and you can't figure it out, this bot or any bot ever will not be the thing for you. I don't even understand how you installed WoW, someone else must have done that for you too since you're getting spoonfed that hard.

 

[huntersmoon]

Ok - I picked up HB within the space of an hour maximum, it IS simple to use.

 

[bloodmarks]

I don't even understand how you installed WoW, someone else must have done that for you too since you're getting spoonfed that hard.

actually I was the one doing said spoon-feeding as i said i was part of technical support (now i am part of DEV team)

 

[Teveel]

Like many are saying here if you find HB hard to use then botting isn't for you as you'll be posting a ban report within a few days as your bot uses a public herbing route or a bad CR for pvp that makes you look like a bot.

 

[odarn]

actually Honorbuddy IS difficult to setup/start using

Off course honorbuddy team does not have as much resources as Microsoft/Apple/unnamed company

You are probably right about that also.That does not make everything right, but it goes a long way.

 

[nomnomnom]

I agree with the OP. Honorbuddy isn't really appealing and easy to use when you are unfamiliar with the botting principle, or when you're average or less than average of a computer geek. The program, amount of forumtopics, posts, routines, profiles, plugins ... It can all be a bit overwhelming.

Edit: Not to forget the incredible amount of douchebags here in this community ...

 

[tumbum]

this is a apple user!

 

[tumbum]

I agree with the OP. Honorbuddy isn't really appealing and easy to use when you are unfamiliar with the botting principle, or when you're average or less than average of a computer geek. The program, amount of forumtopics, posts, routines, profiles, plugins ... It can all be a bit overwhelming.

Lucky they never tryd Pirox with all of the Macro CRs and things to Configure. HB is easy to use if you understand it. But isnt it normal to take a time to understand a program?