BW needs the support from DEV's

[ripn2u]

After reading through the many error reports issues people are posting it sound's countless. To me it doesn't seem BW is getting the love and the attention it need to push forward to make it as great. Please Dev's throw us a life line and help BW out.

Ok for sure I know its new yes but when the 1st wow bot came out it wasn't filled with bugs like this one. And wow got the love from the dev's at the time it was the 1st bot. Where is that now for BW? You push out a product that is deemed for greatness, give it the love and it will smash Swtor and over come it like wow.

just saying!

 

[HB5749W35]

Did you not notice how quick BW was updated to work with 1.3? (some bugs present - but still). Fact is that SWtor is a lot smaller then WoW (also when GB was released), smaller game = smaller playerbase, smaller playerbase = smaller amount of botters, smaller amount of botter = less income, less income = less resources available for a project. You need to see the business aspect as well.

 

[DTrick]

Swtor still has a considerable player base dont play down SWTOR population size there is over 7+ full servers now daily, I dont know about you but im making very very good income from this game..

 

[richassman]

Did you not notice how quick BW was updated to work with 1.3? (some bugs present - but still). Fact is that SWtor is a lot smaller then WoW (also when GB was released), smaller game = smaller playerbase, smaller playerbase = smaller amount of botters, smaller amount of botter = less income, less income = less resources available for a project. You need to see the business aspect as well.

Give you a business aspect... The product ITEMS this bot can farm is farm more expensive compared to the other things on product. With buying just 1 x 3 lifetime you can year 1500 a week for life time provided the prices dont change..

My maths.
1000K Gold Cost $30 (On my server) - Talks 10 Hours to farm.
How many hours in a week? 24 x 7 = 168. So $ 500 Per account Per Week
500x 3 = 1500

Boooyah. This bot has far more profitable potential than any other bot on the market. I am glad none sees this.

 

[DTrick]

Dude, Why did u post that now we gonna get a bunch of kids botting this game too remove the numbers. unless u want 3$ a mill.

 

[imdasandman]

Give you a business aspect... The product ITEMS this bot can farm is farm more expensive compared to the other things on product. With buying just 1 x 3 lifetime you can year 1500 a week for life time provided the prices dont change..

My maths.
1000K Gold Cost $30 (On my server) - Talks 10 Hours to farm.
How many hours in a week? 24 x 7 = 168. So $ 500 Per account Per Week
500x 3 = 1500

Boooyah. This bot has far more profitable potential than any other bot on the market. I am glad none sees this.

What the person was saying that you responded to was the fact that the bossland development team's profit margin for further development of this bot is small and not worth man hours like db and hb is

 

[DTrick]

And what the above poster was stating was that each bot is roughly the same price per session value.

So that means that its really the same in value it just is not popular, However with the ranked warzones back and prices are still high for gear people will be looking for an option.

 

[richassman]

What the person was saying that you responded to was the fact that the bossland development team's profit margin for further development of this bot is small and not worth man hours like db and hb is

What i am saying is i think with this profit margin more people will jump ships and go to where the real money is at... BW all dah wayyy

 

[CodenameG]

its not about profit margins, or how it fits in next to other bots, but we have been on it 24/7 me and kick have been working on it pretty much non-stop, along with about 3 other devs, not counting hawker. 1.3 created a lot of mess we are still trying to clean up, and its going to take some time, but we haven't forgotten or don't give a shit, because we've put more time and effort into this product then any of you will ever know.

 

[richassman]

its not about profit margins, or how it fits in next to other bots, but we have been on it 24/7 me and kick have been working on it pretty much non-stop, along with about 3 other devs, not counting hawker. 1.3 created a lot of mess we are still trying to clean up, and its going to take some time, but we haven't forgotten or don't give a shit, because we've put more time and effort into this product then any of you will ever know.

This bot is allot more tedious compared to any other..

All about to the profit margins

 

[patricq]

its not about profit margins, or how it fits in next to other bots, but we have been on it 24/7 me and kick have been working on it pretty much non-stop, along with about 3 other devs, not counting hawker. 1.3 created a lot of mess we are still trying to clean up, and its going to take some time, but we haven't forgotten or don't give a shit, because we've put more time and effort into this product then any of you will ever know.

this may seem like you guys have code, however this product aint showing it. i dont know about the coding of this game or how bad of a code it is for you DEVs to get it up and working. but lets take for example another product and do some comparison.

SWTOR and BW - Game released late last year, BW released last month
D3 and DB - Game released last month, DB released a week later.

REALLY!!! im sure that you DEVs could push it harder. not bagging you guys here, justsayin

 

[richassman]

this may seem like you guys have code, however this product aint showing it. i dont know about the coding of this game or how bad of a code it is for you DEVs to get it up and working. but lets take for example another product and do some comparison.

SWTOR and BW - Game released late last year, BW released last month
D3 and DB - Game released last month, DB released a week later.

REALLY!!! im sure that you DEVs could push it harder. not bagging you guys here, justsayin

Just sayin this is more tedious. Everything is personalised, compare it to wow when they HB added questing it was slow and tedious and personalized this is no different. Just sayin......

 

[DTrick]

Real question is, Will there be a The Secret world bot?

 

[HB5749W35]

Real question is, Will there be a The Secret world bot?

Wrong topic, wrong MMO

 

[kurfer]

While I think this is the best MMO, the demand is higher for other games. Also they said this was very difficult to program for; give them time. They said they are working hard on it, what more do you want?

 

[ripn2u]

its not about profit margins, or how it fits in next to other bots, but we have been on it 24/7 me and kick have been working on it pretty much non-stop, along with about 3 other devs, not counting hawker. 1.3 created a lot of mess we are still trying to clean up, and its going to take some time, but we haven't forgotten or don't give a shit, because we've put more time and effort into this product then any of you will ever know.

Thank you for help and input to this product. Fact you took the time out and read the post means your on your game cheers bro.

 

[CodenameG]

this may seem like you guys have code, however this product aint showing it. i dont know about the coding of this game or how bad of a code it is for you DEVs to get it up and working. but lets take for example another product and do some comparison.

SWTOR and BW - Game released late last year, BW released last month
D3 and DB - Game released last month, DB released a week later.

REALLY!!! im sure that you DEVs could push it harder. not bagging you guys here, justsayin

while to you, the game might be trivial to bot, it takes more time to reverse and code for this bot then any other product, so that "well im not seeing your effort" BS is because this game is harder to deal with, there's a reason why you haven't seen any other full fledged bots and all the shit that has come out so far has been autoit, POS color clicking bots, its much harder to implement things then it is in WoW or D3. wow and d3 are fucking coloring books compared to the shit that is swtor.

 

[Croga]

while to you, the game might be trivial to bot, it takes more time to reverse and code for this bot then any other product, so that "well im not seeing your effort" BS is because this game is harder to deal with, there's a reason why you haven't seen any other full fledged bots and all the shit that has come out so far has been autoit, POS color clicking bots, its much harder to implement things then it is in WoW or D3. wow and d3 are fucking coloring books compared to the shit that is swtor.

It's all in the eye of the beholder of course CnG. "Well I'm not seeing the effort" is no BS; he could well not be seeing the effort. The complaint may be valid even though the work that is being done is huge and heavy.

I do feel the dev's pain though. Even writing profiles for SWTOR is a PITA compared to WoW and I'm not even doing the difficult work. I wish BioWare had just gone the way of short integers for quest/step IDs so that websites dedicated to this game could work the same way as WoWHead where the ID is in the URL. That would make all our lives a lot easier. But since they didn't all the profile writers will have a hell of a job. And since profile writing is the easy part, I'd hate to have to code this thing.
In the end, the customer will respond to what he sees though. And he doesn't see the effort that you guys are putting in. He only sees that BW isn't doing what he wants it to do and so he complains. And I really can't see a decent solution for this either; there is no way you Devs can make the customer understand how difficult this bot is. All we can do is bide the complainers and keep telling them what you're telling them now;
Guys: This shit is hard, mkay!?

and so I retreat to WoW again and see if I can optimize some profiles there whilst we patiently let you guys figure out what's going on

 

[Kickazz006]

You guys may not see a lot of stuff being developed, but it's being developed. There is a much smaller player base on swtor vs wow/d3. We do have devs on swtor... but most of the work being done are cc's and profiles, and the bot devs are doing a lot of internal stuff (ie: space missions)

 

[CodenameG]

we explained whats going on thoroughly, if that's not good enough for you, then i guess too bad, your not the ones working on it, we are and we are doing the best we can.
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