Eve was a good idea, turned shitty by the fact that you have to wait real life timespans to train things.
Basically you do stuff in game to get money to get that next ship, which could take you a full month to "learn" how to use.
There is really no gratification from, complete this, you get this.
The game is basically wow, but only the Gathering side.
I like the idea, but it's just too dammed slow.
IMO obviously.