baj2k
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Spare me the flames please but I have been using BGBuddy for over 5k kills and have come to the conclusion that it's really not very good (I'm being nice). You basically turn it on and let the odds of hapistance get you the occasional kill so you get 50 - 100 pts per BG (which is like getting 800 on your SAT incidently...) and eventually after 100's of hours you finally get enough points to get fully geared like I did. We're expected to just accept that when we buy HB. Funny though how it's named Honorbuddy when that's what it's the worst at doing... Basically you just turn it on... run the shit out of it so the randon law of averages dictate that you'll someday get enough points for some good PvP gear... and, meanwhile all the time you're hoping nobody reports you as a bot because of your absolutely inane fighting techniques...
Anyway, these are the specific things that absolutely drive me nuts...
1) BGB doesn't even try and avoid obvious wipes... I can't count how many times as I'm trotting across WSG that I see the entire Horde team in the far distance way down in the valley running right towards little ole me... closer and closer they get... me screaming abort mission, abort mission, return to base... and of course I'm all alone per usual... but BGB just keeps on truckin', "damn the torpedos, iceberg dead ahead... Broken Arrow... Broken Arrow... Tango-Alpha-Bravo-Xray has been overun... we have sappers through the wire - we are now FFZ"... is heard on battlechat as BGB slams me into 8+ of the opposite team and wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am 5 seconds later you're dead. Then, to top it off, you rez from the GY and head right back to the same spot for a second, third, forth, fifth helping of some more whoop-azz... This is how I inflict most of my damage points aimlessly DOT'ing 8+ toons as they kick my ass, but that DOT'ing a group before you expire adds up
2) It just trots me around waiting to find something to kill... it doesn't follow your team... it ignores what the're doing, unless on the rare occassion it just happens to run close enough by the enemy when you're fighting them, and it may stop and contribute with a timely kill... but even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then... so this is more like a monkey picking stocks & bonds than anything else
3) It doesn't go after Healers first when in battle... it doesn't target the toons with the lowest HP's for easy kills or KB's... 'nuf said there
4) No logic to try and complete any of the objectives of the fight, no Flag taking, location holding... etc. Just a dumb bot prancing around looking for an ass whippin
5) My DK uses Death Grip to pull targets 20 yards away from the Main Tank and the rest of my team who've been beating on the toon until it's near death and now you're soloing it 20 yards away, they're going wtf just happened, and then you don't make the kill because now that his spells aren't getting interupted he Fears you and you going running away like a wuss... and he escapes. This happens at least once or twice every time I'm watching my toon fight in a BG
6) And my all time favorite... when the smart guys on the other side figure out your a bot and instead of reporting you they camp you at the GY and kick your ass every time the second you pop... that's always good for a few laughs... one guy got 30+ kills and they were all me...
What really really irks me is that no-one seems to be working on any of this. It has been like this, or worse, for the 2+ years I've been using it. This can't be that hard to fix. I'm mean I've seen some really amazing logic used by "Kick" in his quest profiles. Some shit that just blew my mind that he could get my toon to do unattended to complete really complicated quests... so, I know if someone at HB really seriously started working on this we'd have the same kind of behavior as we're seeing in Questing profiles. It's not up to Kick to fix everything... "Hey HB team... when can we expect BGB to get some love?????"
If you think about it with the proper profile logic coupled with the speed of the computer a bot should be able to kick the shit out of a real player virtually every time since we humans have to think for a second before we react and computers react in nano-seconds... 
A few final things, I can answer "yes" to all of these
I'm using the latest version of HB
I'm using the correct profile for the BG, I tried all the BG Plugin, most of which don't work anymore and/or aren't supported - nobodies working on them, so no help there.
I have full set of Season 11 Ruthless gear, fully gem'd, so I'm not fighting in PvE AH trash (Took two weeks running 15+ hrs/day to get that gear running BGB)
I'm a Dual-Wielding Frost DK set up correctly as far as Glyph's, Runes, Gear, etc. and I do mediocre damage at best when compared to me playing the toon myself. I'm about 3-5x better than BGB, which is nothing to brag on.
One last thing, yes, I know stfu, quit crying, and deal with it... I wish I could but I don't have 100's of hours to play like most of the kiddie's that dominate this game...
Anyway, these are the specific things that absolutely drive me nuts...
1) BGB doesn't even try and avoid obvious wipes... I can't count how many times as I'm trotting across WSG that I see the entire Horde team in the far distance way down in the valley running right towards little ole me... closer and closer they get... me screaming abort mission, abort mission, return to base... and of course I'm all alone per usual... but BGB just keeps on truckin', "damn the torpedos, iceberg dead ahead... Broken Arrow... Broken Arrow... Tango-Alpha-Bravo-Xray has been overun... we have sappers through the wire - we are now FFZ"... is heard on battlechat as BGB slams me into 8+ of the opposite team and wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am 5 seconds later you're dead. Then, to top it off, you rez from the GY and head right back to the same spot for a second, third, forth, fifth helping of some more whoop-azz... This is how I inflict most of my damage points aimlessly DOT'ing 8+ toons as they kick my ass, but that DOT'ing a group before you expire adds up

2) It just trots me around waiting to find something to kill... it doesn't follow your team... it ignores what the're doing, unless on the rare occassion it just happens to run close enough by the enemy when you're fighting them, and it may stop and contribute with a timely kill... but even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then... so this is more like a monkey picking stocks & bonds than anything else
3) It doesn't go after Healers first when in battle... it doesn't target the toons with the lowest HP's for easy kills or KB's... 'nuf said there
4) No logic to try and complete any of the objectives of the fight, no Flag taking, location holding... etc. Just a dumb bot prancing around looking for an ass whippin
5) My DK uses Death Grip to pull targets 20 yards away from the Main Tank and the rest of my team who've been beating on the toon until it's near death and now you're soloing it 20 yards away, they're going wtf just happened, and then you don't make the kill because now that his spells aren't getting interupted he Fears you and you going running away like a wuss... and he escapes. This happens at least once or twice every time I'm watching my toon fight in a BG
6) And my all time favorite... when the smart guys on the other side figure out your a bot and instead of reporting you they camp you at the GY and kick your ass every time the second you pop... that's always good for a few laughs... one guy got 30+ kills and they were all me...

What really really irks me is that no-one seems to be working on any of this. It has been like this, or worse, for the 2+ years I've been using it. This can't be that hard to fix. I'm mean I've seen some really amazing logic used by "Kick" in his quest profiles. Some shit that just blew my mind that he could get my toon to do unattended to complete really complicated quests... so, I know if someone at HB really seriously started working on this we'd have the same kind of behavior as we're seeing in Questing profiles. It's not up to Kick to fix everything... "Hey HB team... when can we expect BGB to get some love?????"


A few final things, I can answer "yes" to all of these
I'm using the latest version of HB
I'm using the correct profile for the BG, I tried all the BG Plugin, most of which don't work anymore and/or aren't supported - nobodies working on them, so no help there.
I have full set of Season 11 Ruthless gear, fully gem'd, so I'm not fighting in PvE AH trash (Took two weeks running 15+ hrs/day to get that gear running BGB)
I'm a Dual-Wielding Frost DK set up correctly as far as Glyph's, Runes, Gear, etc. and I do mediocre damage at best when compared to me playing the toon myself. I'm about 3-5x better than BGB, which is nothing to brag on.
One last thing, yes, I know stfu, quit crying, and deal with it... I wish I could but I don't have 100's of hours to play like most of the kiddie's that dominate this game...
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