best affli cc so far ?

[HB7032V76]

Hi guys, i kinda tested all this cc's in here and i need an opinion from some other testers, which afli cc goes better in raid for you?

 

[ambrose]

there isn't much. singular seems to work best for me. i tried getting some momentum around starting one and outlined everything for it...which i was told was too hard. i simplified it, but still no luck.

 

[Ama]

Is affliction viable for raiding? I leveled my warlock and was thinking of using destruction (solely based on the fact that it looks cool). I've had a good experience with Zerfall. It is pretty smooth and I feel like I have the right amount of control over my guy. As for dps... I am not geared enough yet and idk anything about locks to have an idea of what my gear should be gettings. But the CC covers all specs, is smooth, and has a fair amount of customization.

 

[Jvidia]

Is affliction viable for raiding? I leveled my warlock and was thinking of using destruction (solely based on the fact that it looks cool). I've had a good experience with Zerfall. It is pretty smooth and I feel like I have the right amount of control over my guy. As for dps... I am not geared enough yet and idk anything about locks to have an idea of what my gear should be gettings. But the CC covers all specs, is smooth, and has a fair amount of customization.

ATM affli is pretty amazing in pve, guy in our guild f**** it up!

 

[xLegendx]

Isn't Destro the best single target ? And Destro is equal to Affliction ?

 

[ysosrslawl]

Leme explain it to you. Since Cata Affliction has been the MOST viable spec for a warlock in PVE and PVP for various reasons. I've been playing a warlock since vanilla and have two lvl 85s (prior to this bot) and have an extensive knowledge of the class in every aspect.

Majority of gear has stats that work perfectly with priorities
Multi Dotting for multi target fights increase DPS
powerful finisher (<25% health)
Simplistic rotation with minor variances

Only recently with the buff of Demo as of 4.2 has it even been possible to play that particular spec. Due to the fact that mastery on gear has been increased as well as the buff given from mastery (was nerfed partially in 4.3 because the gain was too high with Doomguard and Inferal) but the overall necessity for haste remains the same. Also with the recent buff to Destro as of 4.3 it too has become more viable. Granted in comparison of Afflic and Demo in theory crafting Destro pulls only very slightly ahead (approx. 200 dps in all heroic gear) they are still very equal with being viable. Most warlocks will tell you to pick what you like. Sadly that is where they couldnt be more wrong...More or less each fight specifically demands one spec over another in order to pull the highest DPS. They are doable as any of the three but each will have its own advantage depending on the style of the fight. Such as a fight like Warmaster Blackhorn. Demo will have a nice advantage over the others in cool down rotation burst dps but will lack in the Multi Target Dmg. Where as Destro with its Bane of Havoc can do alright dps with damaging an additional target for a % of the dmg done to the main target but seeing as it can only be cast on one mob its over all effectiveness is weakened. On this particular fight Afflic would be the best as long as the warlock is adept enough to ensure that their DOTs are on all possible targets while rotating well enough to focus their main target down effectively to not lose too much DPS.

Now for a fight such as Warlord Zon'ozz Demo would most likely win due to its vast similarity to a Patchwerk style fight with the least amount of movement and change to rotation during the course of the fight. In some or all of these cases with concern to Dragon Soul fights only Destro and Afflic will prove to be about the same overall aside from certain other variables as i mentioned above with the Warmaster encounter. The other important point to consider is how gearing up with each stat priority of each spec will ultimately change the overall complexity and viability until a certain point of gear can be achieved.

Demo 1: Int > Hit to cap > Haste (1007 rating) > Mastery > Crit
Demo 2: Int > Hit to cap > Haste (1573 rating) > Mastery > Crit
Demo 3: Int > Hit to cap > Haste (1993 rating) > Mastery > Crit
** Also note that playing a demo warlock there are two specs one specifically gauged to multi dotting (SB) and another more Single Target (Incin)**

Destro: Int > Hit to cap > Haste (2681 rating *403-416 ilvl gear)) > Mastery > Crit > Haste (Mastery gives buff all fire dmg and since Destro is primarily fire it is mostly better than Crit. However the increase per point is low enough that mastery will not be prioritised over crit or haste until much higher gear levels.)
Afflic: Int > Hit to cap > Haste > Crit > Mastery (mastery is still not strong enough for an Affliction warlock to be viable enough to replace crit)

With regards to haste there are only thresholds for certain DOT spells due to at each level of haste that is when that particular DOT gains another tick.

All Raid buffed:
Unstable Affliction
Extra Ticks
Goblin
1 9.9% 218 90
2 30% 2589 2437
3 49.9% 4951 4776
4 70% 7326 7127
Our other DoTs also benefit from gaining extra ticks. The haste thresholds for our other DoTs are below:

Corruption
Extra Ticks
Goblin
1 8.3% 21 0
2 25% 1993 1846
3 41.7% 3970 3804
4 58.4% 5945 5745

Shadowflame
Extra Ticks
Goblin
1 16.7% 1007 870
2 50% 4954 4778
3 83.4% 8911 8696
4 116.6% 12838 12584

**Some examples copied from Elitistjerks (Elitist Jerks

 

[HB7032V76]

riiight

interesting...

i also tryed zerfal, is good but on most fights was only redotting Bane of doom for me... instead of using the SB filler

thx a lot guys

 

[ysosrslawl]

yea sorry about that my post was way off topic but i felt the need to explain some things lol so far I've been using FPSware Warlock idk what happened to it on these forums though

 

[Teveel]

FPSWare has RL stuff to deal with hope he's back soon if not I think CnG has updated a few of his CC's.

 

[fluffyhusky]

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...ing-cc-lazyraider-combat-bots.html#post344038

thats the best aff warlock.. it uses treesharp and simcraft.. so its fast and accurate.. timer on madness DW is a bit odd sometimes tho cause of addtional haste from friendly dragon aura


here is the trunk link

felmaster - Revision 10: /trunk

if u dont have a trunk program i suggest the one from TortoiseSVN its good just make a folder right click it svn checkout paste in the trunk link and away it goes

 

[HB7032V76]

Thx , ill give it a try at home, i can use svn no wories, and i think i tested felmaster but something wasnt working so i quit it fast, ill give it another try
thx a lot

u maybe right about the haste bonus in DS madness , there all cc's has issues

 

[CodenameG]

FPSWare has RL stuff to deal with hope he's back soon if not I think CnG has updated a few of his CC's.

chances are he wont be back.
and no, i didnt update his work.

 

[HB7032V76]

felmaster is best so far (tested only on dummy) my 383 lock makes 19 k on dummy ... i know this dps is pathetic ... but i dunno what to do

 

[ysosrslawl]

felmaster is best so far (tested only on dummy) my 383 lock makes 19 k on dummy ... i know this dps is pathetic ... but i dunno what to do

Your DPS on a dummy is irrelevant because it lacks important variables. The only thing it is good for is learning your rotation to the point that it becomes ingrained as muscle memory. Otherwise for pulling 19k thats avg for your gear