Banned-only botted a weekish

[andy_man]

My main and only account was banned. I only botted a week, I used a bunch of different profiles. Mostly keyhunting all acts. and champion farming in acts 1 and 2. I broke up the time with a lot of manual play and changed profiles often. Hard for me to believe I was caught by pure observations.

Botted about 13 hours a day, something realistic that quite a few addicts can do manually.

Anyways that is my 2cents.

 

[Nosnaj]

I'm pretty sure you're trying to imply that the bot is detectable or something. Don't have to beat around the bush.

 

[andy_man]

Or they have an amazing program that can analyze game data and compare it to posted profiles, in that case only self-made private profiles are safe.

 

[packetloss]

People have been banned with custom profiles. Demonbuddy is detectable. It's simply a matter of semantics, they aren't detecting the DB process, it's just that there are signature streams of packets that will only ever occur if you are using DB.

 

[happysticks]

LOL such fun speculation here in this thread, way over the top assumptions and giving blizzard way too much credit.

Detected? No
Private profiles safe? No
Packets? Why would they bother.
Comparing behaviors to publicly available profiles? Are you kidding me guys?

You got banned because of how the bot handles items. Changing your profiles, login times, up times, down times, to look more human does no good when your bot is processing items like a machine.

 

[packetloss]

Basically all you said is that your bot is a machine.

And how do you think they see that? They analyze the commands and packets comming through.

Keep in mind there were folks that ONLY used the bot to do combat (i.e. they moved around and sold items themselves) and they were still banned.

 

[happysticks]

Basically all you said is that your bot is a machine.

And how do you think they see that? They analyze the commands and packets comming through.

Keep in mind there were folks that ONLY used the bot to do combat (i.e. they moved around and sold items themselves) and they were still banned.

Item logs. Every customer support for every MMO has item logs.

Selling items to the store at a half second delay, 15 items straight followed by a repair .25seconds afterwards, 5 town runs in a row. Must look so human to them. All humans do that.

Show me a ban report of someone saying they did not use the bot for items and still got banned. Havent seen a single one.

 

[packetloss]

Selling items to the store at a half second delay, 15 items straight followed by a repair .25seconds afterwards, 5 town runs in a row. Must look so human to them. All humans do that.

Show me a ban report of someone saying they did not use the bot for items and still got banned. Havent seen a single one.

I don't think you understand how things work. What you said, is exactly what I said, only it's not just limited to the sell routines. With your example, when you sell 20 items with the same deplay between each sale it produces a sequence of commands that go to the server. That sequence in your example would be such a sequence that only occurs when DB is running (i.e. a human couldn't do it no matter how hard they tried).

Look through the ban reports, there were a few where someone mentioned they only used the bot because they were too lazy to do combat.

It's really a moot point. Non human sequences like you pointed out for item selling can occur in the combat routines as well.

I'll toss out a few examples. Buffs refreshing as soon as they wear off or as soon as it cycles. Pretty much impossible for a human to do with close to 100% accuracy.

 

[happysticks]

Really the only difference between what you just said and what I am saying is that you think it is caught the second the packets are sent.

Where as I am saying that anything that happens to a particular item is logged. Those logs are queried for sequences like this that are outside of human possibilities.

Timestamp Log example:

01:03:5450 Butcher Sickle ID12320129 Sold
01:03:5650 Skippy Mace ID12929 Sold
01:03:5850 Flip Flop Ring ID120123320 Sold
01:03:6050 Fever Pain ID1232032129 Sold
01:03:6250 Ring of Destruction ID12912329 Sold

Which is obvious that the bot is automated to have a 2 second delay (in this example) between item sales. Humans would not always sell at that interval, flag account.

But Trinity has a random delay (in this example of .25seconds to 1.25 seconds) so a trinity log may look like this.

01:03:5450 Butcher Sickle ID12320129 Sold
01:03:5550 Skippy Mace ID12929 Sold
01:03:5625 Flip Flop Ring ID120123320 Sold
01:03:5650 Fever Pain ID1232032129 Sold
01:03:5725 Ring of Destruction ID12912329 Sold

Which is easy enough to also have an auto query set up to flag any account that always sells items between .25 and 1.25 seconds apart. Obviously we occasionally clear our storages and sell items to the store ourselves on bot accounts so some of our logs will be outside the .25-1.25 range. Which is in essence extra proof that we were botting as this blatantly obvious human behavior will be smack dab in the middle of a ton of automated actions.

Totes agree with other automated behavior being in combat... but I also think its far less likely they log combat. Item logs is a guarantee tho.

 

[dogiedogjoe]

there's no such thing as random, computers can't be taught to do random. eventually there is a pattern, as in life.