Abuse of the economy message....what steps to take? New plan would appreciate feedbak

[dbrous]

Hi, i seem to get the same message every time i am banned.

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Abuse of the Economy

This account was closed because one or more characters were identified exchanging, or contributing to the exchange of, in-game property (items or gold) for "real-world" currency.
This exchange process negatively impacts the World of Warcraft game environment by detracting from the value of the in-game economy.


Is this a generic ban message for everything? I haven't gotten a bots/3rd party software message in a very long time and ironically i haven't sold gold in a long time either yet
they keep sending me this one.

Would this be a clear indication that they have my shit on lockdown and my CC / IP / accounts have been linked and flagged?

I'm not sure what to do at this point. I have quite a lot of profiles that i have written to farm specific niches, however i'm hesitant to risk the time and resources to start more batches up
and have them banned shortly after.

My current gameplan:
1) stop using all CCs and previous payment methods -> go entirely with gamecodes or cards
2) stop activity on all old accounts to prevent linking
3) switch over to a new Motherboard/CPU + hardrive with fresh wow installation
4) use a ***/***** and ditch the old IP, however if they are looking at physical addresses for linking, what good is this step?
There are people that swear by ***s and some experienced botters that say it doesn't make a difference.

5) 1 account per bnet maximum
6) RAF: is it worth the time saved? I'm going to keep trying RAF with the next 10 or so accounts
7) 2 5 man dungeon buddy groups to 90

8) farm away -> send stuff to frozen mule account
9) wait a longer period of time before selling gold -ideally 1 month / use a different IP or even a different PC to do this


any other suggestions?

 

[Aion]

Generally, after Abuse of Economy ban, you need to make only several steps to secure yourself enough:

1. Ask your ISP for different IP, then change your Router's mac adress.

2. Bench your previous accounts for one or two months, or simply use them from different IP or from within Virtual Machine (With leased VPS service - not public free/paid V P N for obvious reasons). For example I used my old accounts only from my cell phone internet on the laptop for a month after I got hit.

3. Reinstall Windows and all the WoW clients you use. Just keep the addons and the HB stuff.

4. From now on, dont use more than 6-7 wow clients simultaneously on the same machine+IP (Excluding the running VMs as usual)

That would be enough for start.



About your list:

- They barely track the payment methods, if your are not using some kind of CC frauds, as im aware.

- Using frozen mule dont always help, as long as you have logged the mule from the same machine/IP already. They ban even them with Abuse of Economy.

- If you are not hardcore botting on the accounts, the multiwow battlenets are fine, I got Abuse of Economy only on 2/4 licenses in my battlenet, the other 2 remained untouched (Even after I was running GB2 bots on both )

- Use Guildbank withdraw/giving leadership from different PC to sell your gold. And if possible, use only trusted/private goldbuyers, not the usual chinese dealers, because sometimes their accounts are monitored, and Blizzard autoban everyone who get in touch with them. I sold more than 15mil gold to an europe-based dealer in the last couple of years, and never lost account due to the gold trade.

Take the risk and use some of your farming bots to invite the dealer to your guild, rather than empty mule account, its usually safer.


Good luck!

 

[bingers]

Ban Hammer,before?yea your screwed

 

[kotuadam]

why you guys go so paranoiac? The only shit you have to get rid of is "PLAYER REPORTS". Nothing will save you if you get N times player reports. My relogger is set to 24/7 botting, on the same IP running 4 bots, constantly botting in same map, no ***/VPS, no ip change, no well-geared chars, no fucking shit... Its been like 8 months running like this without a single ban.. You have to use your own private profiles and avoid players around. I created my own botbase that avoids the players around.. Do so and enjoy botting.

Generally, after Abuse of Economy ban, you need to make only several steps to secure yourself enough:

1. Ask your ISP for different IP, then change your Router's mac adress.

2. Bench your previous accounts for one or two months, or simply use them from different IP or from within Virtual Machine (With leased VPS service - not public free/paid V P N for obvious reasons). For example I used my old accounts only from my cell phone internet on the laptop for a month after I got hit.

3. Reinstall Windows and all the WoW clients you use. Just keep the addons and the HB stuff.

4. From now on, dont use more than 6-7 wow clients simultaneously on the same machine+IP (Excluding the running VMs as usual)

That would be enough for start.



About your list:

- They barely track the payment methods, if your are not using some kind of CC frauds, as im aware.

- Using frozen mule dont always help, as long as you have logged the mule from the same machine/IP already. They ban even them with Abuse of Economy.

- If you are not hardcore botting on the accounts, the multiwow battlenets are fine, I got Abuse of Economy only on 2/4 licenses in my battlenet, the other 2 remained untouched (Even after I was running GB2 bots on both )

- Use Guildbank withdraw/giving leadership from different PC to sell your gold. And if possible, use only trusted/private goldbuyers, not the usual chinese dealers, because sometimes their accounts are monitored, and Blizzard autoban everyone who get in touch with them. I sold more than 15mil gold to an europe-based dealer in the last couple of years, and never lost account due to the gold trade.

Take the risk and use some of your farming bots to invite the dealer to your guild, rather than empty mule account, its usually safer.


Good luck!

 

[Aion]

why you guys go so paranoiac? The only shit you have to get rid of is "PLAYER REPORTS". Nothing will save you if you get N times player reports. My relogger is set to 24/7 botting, on the same IP running 4 bots, constantly botting in same map, no ***/VPS, no ip change, no well-geared chars, no fucking shit... Its been like 8 months running like this without a single ban.. You have to use your own private profiles and avoid players around. I created my own botbase that avoids the players around.. Do so and enjoy botting.

Botting with a few bots is pretty easy nowadays with all the info over the global net.

Try expanding, and see the difference. Myself got autobanned only 2 hours after I started 7x GB2 bots on the same machine in the same time...

And its not about paranoia or something, when you have 1 or 2 bots, there is nothing noticable to worry about, but when u have plenty of bots, and after appealing a trivial autoban, you hear the GM saying, they need to investigate the other accounts, you were botting with, You are forced to see the difference

 

[kotuadam]

Pretty easy with a few bots? Wooow... Thats why so many "banned" posts around? How many of us run more than 5 bots here? My comment is a basic rule that you have to consider while botting. It doesnt matter if you run x many bots or not.. All are ending up with player reports.

Botting with a few bots is pretty easy nowadays with all the info over the global net.

Try expanding, and see the difference. Myself got autobanned only 2 hours after I started 7x GB2 bots on the same machine in the same time...

And its not about paranoia or something, when you have 1 or 2 bots, there is nothing noticable to worry about, but when u have plenty of bots, and after appealing a trivial autoban, you hear the GM saying, they need to investigate the other accounts, you were botting with, You are forced to see the difference

 

[Aion]

Pretty easy with a few bots? Wooow... Thats why so many "banned" posts around? How many of us run more than 5 bots here? My comment is a basic rule that you have to consider while botting. It doesnt matter if you run x many bots or not.. All are ending up with player reports.

Actually, player reports are only 1 of the several ways for get-banned "task". Yes, its major one for some of the botters like GB2 or PP ones, which run in non-instanced zones, but there is huge difference if you run just One / A few or Several+ bots in the same time from your machine.

Anyway, no point feeding with offtopics. Peace out!