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[pheraxx]

Hey guys! Maybe this is posted alot, but i couldnt find what i need and i am sure that some of you might be wondering same questions so i decided to make a thread.
I was wondering what components should i look for keeping like ~10-15 bots active? Is SSD needed or it will be okay without? I was also wondering about the video card. What about the CPU AMD or intel?

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
P.S.2 I know that for some of you these questions might be stupid, but i am full retard in hardware part.

Thanks for answers in advance !

 

[Balasagun]

ram/cpu>ssd>gpu

 

[miloos]

you can count that every wow+hb will take you about 1gb ram memory (+/- 10%) for 15wow you must have more than 16gb (best 32), for cpu you can use some intel i5 - i7, i have i7 6700k and running 12wow's at 35-45% cpu, some ssd 120gb will be enough, and for gpu my advice is something like asus gtx 960-1060 or similiar with min 4-6gb memory (on my asus gtx750Ti 2gb oc strix every wow take about 110-120 gpu memory)...

 

[pheraxx]

you can count that every wow+hb will take you about 1gb ram memory (+/- 10%) for 15wow you must have more than 16gb (best 32), for cpu you can use some intel i5 - i7, i have i7 6700k and running 12wow's at 35-45% cpu, some ssd 120gb will be enough, and for gpu my advice is something like asus gtx 960-1060 or similiar with min 4-6gb memory (on my asus gtx750Ti 2gb oc strix every wow take about 110-120 gpu memory)...

Thank you for the info dude!

 

[UsernameInvalid]

@Pheraxx - The current state of affairs between Bossland and Blizzard has them in a lawsuit over the right to "view" how their memory is being accessed in the RAM of your computer, but not how blizzard interprets the data they ARE allowed to view coming back from your setup.

Each installation of WOW has a unique identifier and would require you to install a new version of the data for each bot you would like to operate.

WITH that being said, it is highly unlikely that a household has 10 computers with the exact same hardware (they are allowed to know this info) are running their game concurrently on the same IP address.

If you are just getting started in the botting community I would recomend getting a few laptops secondhand for the price of a shitty rig and see how well you can manage 5 accounts in a safe environment before expanding into investment level territory with an overpowered rig that you arent going to use to its full potential when all of your accounts get banned.

 

[pheraxx]

@Pheraxx - The current state of affairs between Bossland and Blizzard has them in a lawsuit over the right to "view" how their memory is being accessed in the RAM of your computer, but not how blizzard interprets the data they ARE allowed to view coming back from your setup.

Each installation of WOW has a unique identifier and would require you to install a new version of the data for each bot you would like to operate.

WITH that being said, it is highly unlikely that a household has 10 computers with the exact same hardware (they are allowed to know this info) are running their game concurrently on the same IP address.

If you are just getting started in the botting community I would recomend getting a few laptops secondhand for the price of a shitty rig and see how well you can manage 5 accounts in a safe environment before expanding into investment level territory with an overpowered rig that you arent going to use to its full potential when all of your accounts get banned.

Thanks for all the info really, I thought about buying a secondhand laptop and using VPN to have a different IP address and different HWID, cuz it requires less space and i still dont have space for a computer. So i will definitely do it exactly as you said seems like i'll need to sacriface some accounts before i learn how to do it the right way, but i am ready to do it. Thanks once more for the info.

 

[UsernameInvalid]

Don't stress too much about VPN and other "hype" products to hide your identity. You are allowed to have numerous players in the same household playing at the same time. If you pay attention to the forums or search out questions you may have about the bot they have been answered already on the forum somewhere. If you cannot find them, there are many helpful users here to guide you. We are not your hand holder, but we can help you see the stones available to you to skip across the pond.

 

[wallyworld]

@Pheraxx - The current state of affairs between Bossland and Blizzard has them in a lawsuit over the right to "view" how their memory is being accessed in the RAM of your computer, but not how blizzard interprets the data they ARE allowed to view coming back from your setup..

That's not even remotely close to what the lawsuit is about....I'm not even sure where you came to that conclusion at all.

 

[UsernameInvalid]

Blizzard is upset that their RAM data is being accessed and manipulated, and want unrestricted rights to view what is running on your CPU or what is accessing the memory of the wow client. I don't know how simplified you want me to make it to someone who is just starting out in the botting community, but you clearly don't know it well enough or you would have given a better explination in your post other than just saying I was wrong.

 

[wallyworld]

Blizzard is upset that their RAM data is being accessed and manipulated, and want unrestricted rights to view what is running on your CPU or what is accessing the memory of the wow client. I don't know how simplified you want me to make it to someone who is just starting out in the botting community, but you clearly don't know it well enough or you would have given a better explination in your post other than just saying I was wrong.

I'm confused how you came to that conclusion...

Blizzard did not ask the court in any way, shape or form to do this. They said that the way that the HB software manipulates their processes is in violation of their copyright....And the courts seem to agree with Blizz on this point, too.

Blizz asking the courts to monitor memory space is akin to asking a court to allow an organization to wire-tap a residence...It's so far beyond the realm of plausibility it's almost laughable.

Blizz tracks almost 400 pieces of data on the average user. You can request the documentation of everything they track on you, too....A large piece of that information is hardware info as well.

 

[UsernameInvalid]

@Wallyworld - If you want to discuss the legality of the bot go back to legal and try to stir up tension there. You are Off topic and will not be responded to any further. You have the right to your wrong opinion but I will not play this game with you.

 

[wallyworld]

@Wallyworld - If you want to discuss the legality of the bot go back to legal and try to stir up tension there. You are Off topic and will not be responded to any further. You have the right to your wrong opinion but I will not play this game with you.

It's not an opinion, it's a simple fact...I'm sorry you had to get called out on your worthless BS to begin with.

You are completely wrong and the info you provided did not further the original discussion at all.

 

[d0t1q]

Blizz tracks almost 400 pieces of data on the average user. You can request the documentation of everything they track on you, too....A large piece of that information is hardware info as well.

I wonder what blizz has on me, would be cool to see haha.

 

[wallyworld]

send a letter to their legal department. It's free to get everything but your network info. The network info costs a few bucks.

 

[UsernameInvalid]

Take a seat and learn a thing or two from someone who has been a part of this community for a while longer than yourself. When you start throwing rocks and attempting to use reputation on forums to get back at people all you do is make yourself look bad and the person with real sources come forward.

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-buddy-bots/legal/31986-meeting-lawyers.html
- See post 1 in thread breach of contract ( terms of use for the game client )

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-b...vs-bossland-4th-december-2012-lg-hamburg.html
- See fourth and fifth paragraph Blizzard attempting to tie end user contract TOS & EULA to breach of contract and legality of Honorbuddy functionality as a company
- See tenth paragraph about server memory issues and how the judge mandated proof of manipulation

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-b...trict-court-hamburg-28th-february-2012-a.html
- See paragraph seven of english version Blizzard again trying to enforce EULA & TOS on bossland as an illegal breach of contract

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-b...l-court-hamburg-decision-04-march-2014-a.html
-See first three paragraphs Court acknowledges the looseness of TOS & EULA binding on an end user
-See paragraph five The court acknowledges the game is not bound on purchase to EULA & TOS

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-buddy-bots/legal/149294-february-2014-update-legal.html
-See paragraph seven for purchasing a game and binding TOS & EULA to customers

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-buddy-bots/legal/167438-june-2014-update-legal.html
-See whole post about breach of TOS & EULA

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-buddy-bots/legal/177486-legal-september-2014-update-legal.html
-See Munich, LG I - countersuit of Blizzard vs Bossland GmbH paragraphs
-See OLG Hamburg - suit Blizzard vs Bossland GmbH the second paragrphs

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-buddy-bots/legal/189924-legal-november-2014-update-legal.html
-See whole post World of Warcraft fairplay/contract breach/unfair competition

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-b...-gmbh-won-lawsuit-blizzard-entertainment.html
- See paragraph seven on issues with EULA & TOS for virtually purchased products

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/the-b...ued-blizzard-read-court-news-july-2015-a.html
-See first six paragraphs on private vs personal vs public operation of the bot
-See also in first six the use of attatchment mechanics of HB to ban users based on EULA & TOS contract that has been proven fallable by previous posts

http://blog.bossland-gmbh.com/2016/from-years-back---year-2015-aka-shallow-water
-See paragraph twelve about lawsuit main issue

http://blog.bossland-gmbh.com/2016/bossland-gmbh-vs-blizzard-sas-05-o-195415
-See entire post about private vs public use of HB and wow

http://blog.bossland-gmbh.com/2016/blizzard-devastated-clutching-at-any-straw
-See entire post about moving the lawsuits to US in an attempt to alter the suit to target "Bossland Hacks"

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/eula
-See section
1. A) i - Online purchases may be made by anyone regardless of the form of purchase that has been made. No single person can be tied to such purchase.
1. A) ii - Blizzard has the "right" to obtain data from your person that is not game sensitive. They are taking in information about your set up and possibly other programs on your computer.
1. B) v - You own the property that are the physical disks and can be transfered ownership if you so choose. But Blizzard can still revoke access to servers by banning you for attaching HB (breach of consumer contract)

1. C) - cheeating provisions that target HB. HB uses a process that requires handling RAM data as the only means of interaction with WOW. This in and of itself is the grounds for the lawsuit. Blizzard has absolutely no grounds for banwaves (outside big data crunches for quests and public profiles) to ban users otherwise. In most countries the Company has to provide evidence of broken contract to refuse refunds, and Blizzard does not do so and continues to breach consumer contracts daily.

2. A) - everything is owned by Blizzard and can be revoked at any time for any reason without renumeration. This is a breach of consumer law in most countries. What does the consumer own after the purchase of a game liscense has been banned? The answer is nothing and needs to be addressed.

4.
CONSENT TO MONITOR.
WHEN RUNNING, A GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1(C)(ii) ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (a) THE GAME MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. Additionally, certain Games include a tool that will allow your computer system to forward information to Blizzard in the event that the Game crashes, including system and driver data, and consent to Blizzard being able to receive this data.

This is Blizzards attempt to create their own rules and scare tactics for lateral monitoring of RAM processes. This is illegal in many countries under electronic privacy laws.

7. You cant sue Blizzard

10. B - Blizzard can terminate this contract at any moment even if its not legal.

So there you have it. From 2011 until now, the issue at hand has been and allways will be an issue of EULA & TOS saying you cant bot, users botting, blizzard breaching contracts and privacy laws to monitor RAM, and HB fighting the good fight to defend users right to privacy. The bot works on RAM manipulation and interpretation and that is the only way Blizzard can reasonably ban an account, this is the cause of the issue. Case closed.

 

[UsernameInvalid]

Wallyworld, I remember when you got banned last and came back to the forums. I can't remember what your last user name is, but clearly you have no idea how things work around here since this is your second or third account id I am not mistaken. Please excuse me I did not make that post for you, I made it for the users who might read your comments and actually beleive a single word you say. I am officially done here, and china or tony can clean up the mess that is your existence.

 

[wallyworld]

Wallyworld, I remember when you got banned last and came back to the forums. I can't remember what your last user name is, but clearly you have no idea how things work around here since this is your second or third account id I am not mistaken. Please excuse me I did not make that post for you, I made it for the users who might read your comments and actually beleive a single word you say. I am officially done here, and china or tony can clean up the mess that is your existence.

Lol, sure you do...Keep making yourself look bad though.

Posting a public forum means you made the post for everyone. It doesn't matter if you don't like me reading and responding to your posts. There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop me from responding.

You keep evading the very basic question I've asked you to respond to by trying to insult me...Just answer the question and we can be done here/

 

[Aion]

There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop me from responding.

But I can stop the rude language you use above.

All of your offensive posts above are reported to the moderators.

Please respect others on those boards, this online space is intended to be a friendly and peaceful environment for botting discussions, not battleground.

 

[bambam922]

Closed. No one is furthering discussion.