28/xx lost

[Goldflake]

Just lost 28 more,

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? Honorbuddy

2)Which version (and Beta or Release)?: Release

3)If so, when was the last time?: Latest

4)What profile were you using?: Dungeon profiles, tol'vir/grim batol/gun'drak/hol/botanica

5)What combat class were you using? singular

6)What plugins are you using?: None

7)How many hours per day did you bot for?: 24

8)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? 1-2%

9)How many auctions per day did you have?: 0.

10)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? None

11)Was your account involved in gold selling? No

12)EU or US realm? EU

13)Is the banned account a Scroll of Resurrection or an actual paid account? Paid


They're deffinatly targetting dungeon farming heavily atm, all the accounts i lost were farming dungeons..
meanwhile my grinding accounts, which is also 24/7 for 20 days now.. is left untouched.


Ohh well, starting up 30 by tomorrow

 

[happyfriet]

you forgot to mention how long they lasted - which is kinda the only important thing with suicide botting

 

[danny1992]

how long did you have them before they were banned?

 

[Goldflake]

you forgot to mention how long they lasted - which is kinda the only important thing with suicide botting

"which is also 24/7 for 20 days now"

aka. they lasted for 20 days, i ussualy level between 10-15 accounts up at the same time..

 

[happyfriet]

"which is also 24/7 for 20 days now"

aka. they lasted for 20 days, i ussualy level between 10-15 accounts up at the same time..

Ah - I guess i'm blind, totally missed that lol

 

[Goldflake]

Ah - I guess i'm blind, totally missed that lol

Haha, no worries mate - old age strikes us all at some point

 

[Vaestor]

How you manage to survive after banned? When I came back to botting, I couldn't level my characters to lvl 90 without beign banned ( raf dungeon leveling ) got banned 10/10 after 2 days of botting, they reached 90, and i turned them off for 12 hours, and they got banned at the time they were not playing.
How do you level them?

 

[Goldflake]

How you manage to survive after banned? When I came back to botting, I couldn't level my characters to lvl 90 without beign banned ( raf dungeon leveling ) got banned 10/10 after 2 days of botting, they reached 90, and i turned them off for 12 hours, and they got banned at the time they were not playing.
How do you level them?

1-15 questing, using kicks
15-90 dungeonbuddy
- it's rare i go beyond this stage -
90-100 A mix of Spegeli's and grinding

Since i'm a big beliver in "the paranoid survives", i use a fresh VPN everytime i get banned (it ussualy comes in waves, so i lose 10-30 in one go).
I NEVER link accounts (Wow1,Wow2,wow3, etc) on the same bnet, always use a fresh one.
I use diffrent payment methods, 2x paypals, 2-3 creditcards - wether they're stolen or not, it doesn't look suspicious if you buy 1 account with each if you buy 30 accounts with one creditcard, then you're asking for it. (Imo)

dungeon farming @90/100 atm. is a "no go area" for me atm. i'm losing way too many accounts for it to be worth it, i still make a profit(!) but it's not enough for me

So i'd always suggest using 1 VPN to buy the accounts, 1 to bot with.. and then preferably a static IP (unplug the router, wait for 5 min.. voila, new ip.)


It should be noted that i don't belive in the "bot for 2 hours a day and you're safe" crap, i've botted 24/7 (with the accounts only being off for the 1-2 hours maintenance every wednsday) and they've lasted 1-2 months.
Leveling 1-90 without raf, takes me 3-4 days - nets me 9.8k gold on avg.
Leveling 1-90 with raf, takes me 24 hours - nets me 6.1k gold on avg.
With the current gold price, i need to make 33.3k for me to make a profit. And all the profiles i use is atleast 900 - 1k gph..
After 1 day of farming, i've already made a profit.

And as i've said before, i always (!) make a profit Today from one of my realms (1.2m);

 

[dragonbuddy]

1-15 questing, using kicks
15-90 dungeonbuddy
- it's rare i go beyond this stage -
90-100 A mix of Spegeli's and grinding

Since i'm a big beliver in "the paranoid survives", i use a fresh VPN everytime i get banned (it ussualy comes in waves, so i lose 10-30 in one go).
I NEVER link accounts (Wow1,Wow2,wow3, etc) on the same bnet, always use a fresh one.
I use diffrent payment methods, 2x paypals, 2-3 creditcards - wether they're stolen or not, it doesn't look suspicious if you buy 1 account with each if you buy 30 accounts with one creditcard, then you're asking for it. (Imo)

dungeon farming @90/100 atm. is a "no go area" for me atm. i'm losing way too many accounts for it to be worth it, i still make a profit(!) but it's not enough for me

So i'd always suggest using 1 VPN to buy the accounts, 1 to bot with.. and then preferably a static IP (unplug the router, wait for 5 min.. voila, new ip.)


It should be noted that i don't belive in the "bot for 2 hours a day and you're safe" crap, i've botted 24/7 (with the accounts only being off for the 1-2 hours maintenance every wednsday) and they've lasted 1-2 months.
Leveling 1-90 without raf, takes me 3-4 days - nets me 9.8k gold on avg.
Leveling 1-90 with raf, takes me 24 hours - nets me 6.1k gold on avg.
With the current gold price, i need to make 33.3k for me to make a profit. And all the profiles i use is atleast 900 - 1k gph..
After 1 day of farming, i've already made a profit.

And as i've said before, i always (!) make a profit Today from one of my realms (1.2m);

ty for the info and steering new users in the right direction, do you lvl your toons to 100? also where do u get cheap WOD keys or US battle net from then, all i can find is cheap eu 1-90 keys

again ty

 

[frosticus]

and they've lasted 1-2 months.

at what point do you switch from running cheap accounts for 30 days and ditching them to paying for a second month?

second question. when do you decide to pay for wod and spend the extra day to level them?

i realize its a personal choice, but do you have numbers to support your decisions?

i ask because my suicide dungeon runners run out of game time tomorrow morning. 25 days running so far.

 

[Goldflake]

at what point do you switch from running cheap accounts for 30 days and ditching them to paying for a second month?

second question. when do you decide to pay for wod and spend the extra day to level them?

i realize its a personal choice, but do you have numbers to support your decisions?

i ask because my suicide dungeon runners run out of game time tomorrow morning. 25 days running so far.

It's extremely rare that i pay for 1 more month (12.99) since the accounts i use range from 4-5 euro each.
Depending on the amount of gold i've made using a profile, i leave it up to the math to decide if i should go for a few more days or not. (In general i don't, since i've already made a substancial amount of profit.)

I do have numbers, as an example;
33.3k gold gained to make back the costs of the original BC, ussualy the WoD keys i get are 23 dollars each... (so again, i do the easy math to to see how much gold i need to make it back, and how much estimated profit i make pr. day)

Ussualy i only renew time on my seller accounts, since they seem to last 2-3 months despite me moving millions of gold throug them :S

 

[Goldflake]

ty for the info and steering new users in the right direction, do you lvl your toons to 100? also where do u get cheap WOD keys or US battle net from then, all i can find is cheap eu 1-90 keys

again ty

As explained in the post, i tend not to - for the simple reason of me making a good profit without it.. it could be better if i leveled them to 100, but then you'd have to calculate the extended costs into it, the extended leveling time (1-2 days 90-100) + the chances of being spotted in a "new" continent (that's loaded with people).
The maximum of WoD accounts i keep is about 5

 

[wizfor]

1-15 questing, using kicks
15-90 dungeonbuddy
- it's rare i go beyond this stage -
90-100 A mix of Spegeli's and grinding

Since i'm a big beliver in "the paranoid survives", i use a fresh VPN everytime i get banned (it ussualy comes in waves, so i lose 10-30 in one go).
I NEVER link accounts (Wow1,Wow2,wow3, etc) on the same bnet, always use a fresh one.
I use diffrent payment methods, 2x paypals, 2-3 creditcards - wether they're stolen or not, it doesn't look suspicious if you buy 1 account with each if you buy 30 accounts with one creditcard, then you're asking for it. (Imo)

dungeon farming @90/100 atm. is a "no go area" for me atm. i'm losing way too many accounts for it to be worth it, i still make a profit(!) but it's not enough for me

So i'd always suggest using 1 VPN to buy the accounts, 1 to bot with.. and then preferably a static IP (unplug the router, wait for 5 min.. voila, new ip.)


It should be noted that i don't belive in the "bot for 2 hours a day and you're safe" crap, i've botted 24/7 (with the accounts only being off for the 1-2 hours maintenance every wednsday) and they've lasted 1-2 months.
Leveling 1-90 without raf, takes me 3-4 days - nets me 9.8k gold on avg.
Leveling 1-90 with raf, takes me 24 hours - nets me 6.1k gold on avg.
With the current gold price, i need to make 33.3k for me to make a profit. And all the profiles i use is atleast 900 - 1k gph..
After 1 day of farming, i've already made a profit.

And as i've said before, i always (!) make a profit Today from one of my realms (1.2m);

modem, not router. and you wont get a new IP address in 5 minutes. dhcp lifecycle is complex apparently The TCP/IP Guide - DHCP Lease "Life Cycle" Overview (Allocation, Reallocation, Renewal, Rebinding and Release) and Lease Timers

I believe blizz can detect your first hop to get a vague idea of if your the same person or not; which would then give them incentive to research further. not sure if they spend that much time though or if they even use it as a metric

 

[Goldflake]

modem, not router. and you wont get a new IP address in 5 minutes. dhcp lifecycle is complex apparently The TCP/IP Guide - DHCP Lease "Life Cycle" Overview (Allocation, Reallocation, Renewal, Rebinding and Release) and Lease Timers
I believe blizz can detect your first hop to get a vague idea of if your the same person or not; which would then give them incentive to research further. not sure if they spend that much time though or if they even use it as a metric

Well i've been checking with whatsmyip.org - so far it's been working great, i've only done it for 3-4 years but yeah (and botting since the beginning of glider)
Further more, as explained above - i also use diffrent VPN's most of them are either german or from the netherlands.

 

[cg1203im2]

the question that i am asking myself is.... what is he doing? joined the forum with this account 2 month ago, runs 10-14 bots at the same time, obvious dungeons with BC accounts.
my first thought was. Ah, sure. he is using a *****ed HB. OFC he was banned. but than.... maybe people are really spending more than 300$ for 14 bot sessions without knowing what they do.

 

[Goldflake]

the question that i am asking myself is.... what is he doing? joined the forum with this account 2 month ago, runs 10-14 bots at the same time, obvious dungeons with BC accounts.
my first thought was. Ah, sure. he is using a *****ed HB. OFC he was banned. but than.... maybe people are really spending more than 300$ for 14 bot sessions without knowing what they do.

I can make back 300 dollars easier than you'd think, 300 dollars is a one time investment... (which has already paid off many times)

And no, i'm not running 10-14 bots at the same time i'm running 15-20 pr. pc at the same time (there's a slight diffrence)

- Further more, i've been a member of the forum for ages (on my old account) + i know more about this than you do (good joke tho)