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24 000 Flawless squares, any ideas?

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Hello fellow botters!

With your attention brought to this thread i would like to see if any of you have any minor calculations or any idea if there is any reason to start crafting gems for profit?

Have 6000 flawless square gems of each colour.

Thanks in advance!
 
1) crafting gems is not profitable unless you have all the mats, even then I think you'll break even after AH fee

2) it takes forever

3) read 1 & 2 again
 
On a level 1 mule with a crafting macro? Sure craft em, if the market is appropriate. Otherwise sell the gems as is. Ultimately the profit can be 1-2 mill per hour but it's reliant on the gem market.

I should give you some numbers rather than a baseless opinion.

Firstly use this gem calculator if you want a good idea of the return on gold. If you are crafting 729 flawless squares you'll be spending 15.4m on crafting costs alone and having an account doing nothing but clicking for 18 minutes. You'll also need 1631 tomes so check the ah on their value along w/ the 729 gems.

Looking at the ah now, purple and red flawless squares are 1000 a piece. Don't bother with emeralds, they have been 6000+ for a while. Topaz is 450. Tomes are 1400. I've never seen them this high :(

So here is what the costs are for flawless square to radiant star crafting w/ tomes at 1400:
Topaz @ 407 = 17,980,103
Ruby @ 1050 = 18,448,850
Amethyst @ 929 = 18,360,641
Emerald @ 7888 = 23,433,752
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Here are what Radiant Star's cost currently:
Topaz: 20,943,754
Ruby: 21,406,700
Amethyst: 20,932,748
Emerald: 26,298,714
Click to expand...

Profit of crafting each currently:
Topaz: -177,912
Ruby: -253,155
Amethyst: -567,805
Emerald: -1,079,845
Click to expand...

In other words, sell the mats.
 
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Thanks for the math.

Was just curious about this part:

"QUOTE; Looking at the ah now, purple and red flawless squares are 1000 a piece. Don't bother with emeralds, they have been 6000+ for a while. Topaz is 450. Tomes are 1400. I've never seen them this high

So here is what the costs are for flawless square to radiant star crafting w/ tomes at 1400:
Topaz @ 407 = 17,980,103
Ruby @ 1050 = 18,448,850
Amethyst @ 929 = 18,360,641
Emerald @ 7888 = 23,433,752 END QUOTE;"


When you say the Emeralds "are at 7800" do you mean for ONE flawless square emerald? Cause in that case i got myself 42 million in only selling the Emerald gems, if theyre sold ofcourse...

And seeing this "Emerald @ 7888 = 23,433,752" your already calculating minus the selling price, seem fair! Think ill just sell the mats =)
 
Yeah flawless square emeralds are very very pricey. The AH fee was considered in the profits I linked. I've had a spread a few times where you'd invest the mats and time and turn a 600k profit for one gem but that's not often enough for me to go full blast into gem crafting all day.

The price of tomes right now is way up for some reason. I'd usually get them at 700 which would tack on 1,141,700 to the price. The current rate which is about double that makes it pointless to craft. Sell everything except topaz imo, unless there is some sort of gem related patch info out there I don't know about.
 
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i allways sell ruby for 1250, tome of secrets 1200, emerald 12500.. all sell within minutes
 
Job2k9 said:
Profit of crafting each currently:
Topaz: -177,912
Ruby: -253,155
Amethyst: -567,805
Emerald: -1,079,845

In other words, sell the mats.
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That's actually highly inaccurate.... O_o his cost for the FS= 0 as he currently has them, secondly he's probably collect ToS also... So when you run the calculations you should just leave them at 0

Its just semantics when you try to say I could have sold these for this much so I actually lost that much after crafting a RS which is a highly inaccurate way of looking at it....

Even then though its always more profitable to farm and combine then sell the RS than it is to sell them outright... Simply economics as the price of RS will never drop below raw manufacturing costs + AH fee's unless the supply outweighs the demand...



Just selling mats (729 FS @ 7K)
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Gross Profit: 5,103,000 GOLD


Selling RS with farmed mats
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Cost to make: 15,400,000 GOLD
Sells for: 26,000,000
Gross Profit: 10,600,000
 
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StrangerThanFiction said:
That's actually highly inaccurate.... O_o his cost for the FS= 0 as he currently has them
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I'd rather give the already farmed items a weighted value than consider them worthless. There are times you can sell the uncombined gems and tomes on the ah and make more than if you had crafted the radiant star. It's always changing and I suggest using the gem calc site as a guide. That being said things are chaos right now due to the 1.07 notes. The price has changed a few million for some radiant stars since I posted those other numbers.

Also completely off topic, if you have a massive mess of gems at varying stacks you can quickly have them organized if you post the whole lot on the ah at an insane buyout then cancel the auction. Automatic gem stacking :)
 
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flawless square emeralds sell for 10-11k on EU. probably more since I last logged due to patch notes mentioning the word "gem"
 
now the price of ruby grow up very nice becouse of 1.0.7

the reason to craft it is
 
There isn't a single scenario other than supply and demand that would result in farmed gems selling for a greater profit then when combined for an RS, period......

1.0.7 or not all that will do is increase the value of Ruby's and slightly degrade the over inflated value of emeralds...
 
Tell you what. Sell all the gems now, but save the emeralds. Download a good mouse clicker and craft them to radiant stars. Save those for after the patch. Demand will go up, as everyone who wants a top tier char would need 120% emerald, many of them on weapons. Only emeralds are worth crafting and selling, it's been this way for a long time now. Here is the clicker i use: LINK
 
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