1-90 from Zygor's

[layg1990]

I think it would be more efficient and quicker if someone had the time to make a full 1-90 profile that follows Zygor's Guide exactly unless there are quests that the bot simply can not complete. For the most part, while i am running the bot, it seems to do about 85% (depending on which profile i am using, which is Kick's) of the quests that zygors tells you to do. I ran a little test to see what is faster by playing one account myself strictly following Zygor's and one account, same race and class, using the bot and the time from 1-50 was about 20% faster strictly following Zygors. Maybe just some food for thought, but if someone could complete something of the sort then people could level much faster and be on their way to enjoy being level 90.

 

[secarter2k3]

Keep in mind that the bot loots slower than you, and reacts to adds and aggression differently than you would.

You don't need to compile a vast amount of data in order to walk around the path, and you would mount in some places where the bot would not or vice versa. These are things that impact how fast the bot levels and how they differ than hand playing.

 

[layg1990]

yes i do understand all of that. But what im trying to throw out there is that Zygors really doesnt take you out to complete just one quest at a time like the some profiles do at more often. And i will run the bot and open zygors to see what quests the profiles are missing that could be implemented in there since you are going to be in that area for another quest you just picked up.

All i am saying is that Zygor's does give you the quickest, and easiest routes for your questing needs. And that it would be nice to see a profile follow as best as it can. If i had the knowledge of how to do it i would. I am not demanding it, just an idea.

 

[tumbum]

there are just 2 out there with time to do, Kickz and Cava. And i dont think they will redo all there profiles just to lvl a Char a little bit faster. If you never did a Quest Profile or Profession Profile by yourself, you dont know how much times it takes to write, test, test and again test and if you publish it there are billions of users who cant read the instruction how to use it. so you need the same time for helping other people.

Megser, Vlad and some other droped there work, because it takes to much time. And a lot who posted to do a All Quest Profile, but never done.

Be happy with the stuff you get here for free.

 

[zeldrak]

I think it would be more efficient and quicker if someone had the time to make a full 1-90 profile that follows Zygor's Guide exactly unless there are quests that the bot simply can not complete. For the most part, while i am running the bot, it seems to do about 85% (depending on which profile i am using, which is Kick's) of the quests that zygors tells you to do. I ran a little test to see what is faster by playing one account myself strictly following Zygor's and one account, same race and class, using the bot and the time from 1-50 was about 20% faster strictly following Zygors. Maybe just some food for thought, but if someone could complete something of the sort then people could level much faster and be on their way to enjoy being level 90.

This has been suggested countless times over the years I've been here. While I agree I'd love to see a questing profile that followed Zygor's guides for questing it just won't happen anytime soon, if at all.

Reasons why this is not as possible as you may think:
1. Owning a copy of Zygor's Guides is required, and has been mentioned at almost every thread that has contained this idea.
2. Development of the profile would take a very long time.
3. Quest Behaviors are needed for certain quests, and those are not as easy to develop as you may think.
4. Thorough testing would need to be done to ensure the profile, behaviors, and quest chains line up properly.
5. The developers that work on questing profiles have published very thorough, and successful profiles already and are probably not interested in changing what already works.

Those are just the top 5 reasons I can think of as to why this may not come to fruition. I know it may sound odd to you, but the biggest thing I've seen requested is to actually get a copy of the guiides. Not everyone is willing to do that, and I'm sure you could say that HB could buy one, but then you have to realize they'd need to buy all of the guides for both Horde and Alliance. Also, not to mention, there are several guides such as rep farming, mounts, pets, achievements, leveling, dailies, etc. A copy of each, for both factions, would need to be obtained. That gets expensive if you think about it.

 

[layg1990]

Ok once again i will say that this is a fucking idea that im trying to throw out there. Im not saying that it needs to be done. Im not calling anyone a lazy piece of shit for not wanting to take up the project. Its is simply a idea. Thats it. I understand it would take a long time to make a profile, and i know that people are busy and have lives and may not have the time. Once again, it is an IDEA. I didnt see an IDEA forum page, only a request. I am happy with what i am using now. Kick's profile works great. I just like to be someone who throws IDEAS out the community cause maybe it would be something that someone would want to pick up in the future. There are some people who use this and never put out an IDEA or any feedback on the shit they use. I am not one of those people. When i download a new profile or think of an IDEA i will either throw it out there or give feedback on what i have used(which hasnt been much so far).

 

[xLegendx]

Cava uses Zygor's guides.

 

[zeldrak]

Ok once again i will say that this is a fucking idea that im trying to throw out there. Im not saying that it needs to be done. Im not calling anyone a lazy piece of shit for not wanting to take up the project. Its is simply a idea. Thats it. I understand it would take a long time to make a profile, and i know that people are busy and have lives and may not have the time. Once again, it is an IDEA. I didnt see an IDEA forum page, only a request. I am happy with what i am using now. Kick's profile works great. I just like to be someone who throws IDEAS out the community cause maybe it would be something that someone would want to pick up in the future. There are some people who use this and never put out an IDEA or any feedback on the shit they use. I am not one of those people. When i download a new profile or think of an IDEA i will either throw it out there or give feedback on what i have used(which hasnt been much so far).

And, while we ALL appreciate your IDEA, it just simply will not happen. I only say that your IDEA is not feasible because of what is already in existence. The IDEAS are always appreciated, but this IDEA has been beaten to death. It's a dead horse.

There's really no reason to get angry and resort to swearing. From what I could read it just seems as though everyone was rejecting your IDEA. IDEAS are rejected all the time. Some IDEAS are accepted and put into development, but others are tossed out the window. Also, I don't recall anyone accusing you of calling anyone "a lazy piece of shit". It was just simply a matter of the IDEA being turned down.

So please, calm down, and don't get so offensive if someone rejects your suggestions. Chances are that that's going to happen quite frequently. There are also a lot of children, immature adults, egoists, elitists, and people that feel they're better than everyone else on these forums. You just have to take what's said from each and every single person with a grain of salt. Basically, some will agree with you, some will disagree with you, some will completely ignore you, and some will just try to anger you because they can. That's really all there is to it.

 

[Madcatz]

Cava uses Zygor's guides.

Is what i was just going to put out lol

 

[Kickazz006]

80-90 is zygored ... the reason why 1-80 isn't is bc I have to skip quests and such or re arrange quest lines bc of areas and such.

Now if you're willing to donate your time coding behaviors (which take 12-36 hours each to develop and then test for another 50 hours) - then let me know. There are at least 50 behaviors that I would need to do zygor 1-80

 

[OrcD3vil]

I don't know if you guys have noticed but I use Kick's profiles and I would say 90% of all the leveling I've done is based on Zygor as it has done almost all of the quests that Zygor does. It skips a few here/there and all but it follows it pretty well.

 

[webhond]

kicks profiles dont run low lvl...

alliance , all but flawless.

horde, stops on lvl 6 now undead. gg

so does cava

pangan is just grinding...

shit out of luck, again.. as with so many things on this forum lately

half of the cc's are shit aswell, the forum could use a good cleanup.

not the right place, i know. just needed a rant after being busy for 30 min finding something that

actually continues my shitty horde.

 

[layg1990]

Webhond, i dont know why any of the profiles are not working for you, they work great for me. I have used Kick's profile for 4 toons so far on horde side and no problems. Cava's profile is yet to be complete as said in hos first post(Cava tells you while races and classes will get to what level using the profile) and I use CCs on a pally, hunter, priest, monk, and lock, all of which are custom CCs off the forum and again, no problems. I think you may just have an honorbuddy client problem or something. Either that or your hopes for this program are just way too high. (there will never be a program that would play your toon for you just like a human would.)

 

[toliman]

kicks profiles dont run low lvl...

alliance , all but flawless.

horde, stops on lvl 6 now undead. gg

i've noticed this. have levelled 10 horde toons with kick's guide, (i start to loathe the vanilla areas after a while)

the issue you're dealing with, is 1 of 3 things:

1. 1-5 is handled by each race, and then it drops you off in Durotar.

for panda/worgen/goblin zones which kick you out at lvl 12, there's no drama.
But the 5-12 profile is... broken for undead. i think also a few other races, it might have changed, so try it out.

the reason is simple.
the 7-12 profile, not having done previous quests in Durotar before, has trouble loading on low level characters.

you have to start this quest manually, fly to the troll area, pick up this quest, complete it, and then start 5-12 again. it's the northwatch alliance "metal gear solid stealth"'ing, underneath medical crates.
Breaking the Chain - Quest - World of Warcraft

manually, using zygor's or wow-pro guides if poor, unwashed, without hope or fear... is also an option to level up characters too.

2.
12-20, also tends to be relentlessly stupid, it will run back and forth from the orgrimmar flight point to the orgrimmar inn, then walk out the front door of Orgrimmar, through the tunnel, then take a shortcut to the left of the PvP area. it's wierd, insanely noticeable, to the point that people have started following me (while mounted up) as soon as i take the jink to the left as soon as i walk out the Orgrimmar tunnel, all the way to the next zone. it walks all the way from the Orgrimmar inn, to the crossroads, twice, a 12 minute walk. both times. using the hearth might be a safer option (not sure if that's a behavior that got left behind.)

(a possible alternative is the innkeeper near the valley of spirits in "troll town", using the side exit to Durotar/north barrens.) shorter walk out and linear path outside.

3.
if you're getting stuck on flight points, you need to delete the .cqc cache files every 5 levels due to the auto-learning of flight points that happens when you level up,
the bot doesn't re-learn the flight points and gets stuck.

i hope those issues have been fixed, but...
if problems persist, use search before posting.