They were offline and hadn't logged in for over 3 months. Months ago they were running a3 nightmare and hell without plugins.
Main was also banned and I didn't bot it. Used an auto-it sarkoth script over a year ago.
I think this has a lot to do with it. I had 2 bots make it through the bans and don't know why. But those 2 bots were running NM and not identifying anything.